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[AncientGlory]

after reading all these word I can only say

“There are only two ways to live your life. One is as though nothing is a miracle. The other is as though everything is a miracle.”

So AntientGlory you decide which one is more suits you better (Our God is Unbiased)

Ahh, don't limit your mind. There are other choices..

 

[Y2K]

Ahh, don't limit your mind. There are other choices..

what are those ? there is nothing more man

 

[Y2K]

Ahh, don't limit your mind. There are other choices..

do you think u have a brellient mind Mr.Ancient Glory ? actually you have not seen the real glory

 

[AncientGlory]

what are those ? there is nothing more man

Yes, for you it is understandable that you think there is nothing more. Because you base something on belief not proof or evidence. So in doing so you sometimes have no choice but to accept what's being told, this limits your mind. Here is one other different way for you to think about.

Not everything, but somethings are miracles and somethings are not. It's a different choice than the two given by you.

 

[AncientGlory]

do you think u have a brellient mind Mr.Ancient Glory ? actually you have not seen the real glory

Why would I think that and why would it matter to me whether I have seen the real glory or not? Specially when the claim is coming from someone like you who still think in binary?

 

[Y2K]

Yes, for you it is understandable that you think there is nothing more. Because you base something on belief not proof or evidence. So in doing so you sometimes have no choice but to accept what's being told, this limits your mind. Here is one other different way for you to think about.

Not everything, but somethings are miracles and somethings are not. It's a different choice than the two given by you.

Ha ha ha are you cleaver than MR.Albert

 

[Y2K]

Yes, for you it is understandable that you think there is nothing more. Because you base something on belief not proof or evidence. So in doing so you sometimes have no choice but to accept what's being told, this limits your mind. Here is one other different way for you to think about.

Not everything, but somethings are miracles and somethings are not. It's a different choice than the two given by you.

Hey son just think twice may be you will understand this quote later, once you grow older

till then Goodbye!

 

[ela_eluwa120]

Ha ha ha are you cleaver than MR.Albert

It seems that you are more cleaver than God

 

[ela_eluwa120]

What made you think I said they are the same?

This,

True, but not everything. Somethings such as time are just illusions or concepts created to understand the behavior of universe better.

 

[Y2K]

It seems that you are more cleaver than God

Not at all brother, what I know all the spiritual knowledge i have came from the Spirit

I am nothing unless I remain in Jesus, I remember I was like you guys talking many big things (but you'll never know the truth, only questions) but very recectly I realise with the Spirit there is no true understanding

You can say this life is meaningless, delution then all of your efforts are usless then, there are some doctrine brought some people who claim to be cleaver than GOD which are really dangerous , it won't give you a life, it will take your life and leave you without a real meaning

I alwasy praise Jesus Christ for what I have today as I always testfy son of man without Jesus there is no life, without spirit of truth his words are just words but "Life by the spirit"

Jesus said " I am the way, the truth and the life"

the way is trought him, the truth is in him, the true meaning for life comes from Lord Jesus Christ

“In the last times there will be scoffers who will follow their own ungodly desires.” 19 These are the men who divide you, who follow mere natural instincts and do not have the Spirit.

20 But you, dear friends, build yourselves up in your most holy faith and pray in the Holy Spirit. 21 Keep yourselves in God’s love as you wait for the mercy of our Lord Jesus Christ to bring you to eternal life.

22 Be merciful to those who doubt; 23 snatch others from the fire and save them; to others show mercy, mixed with fear—hating even the clothing stained by corrupted flesh.

 

[AncientGlory]

This,

Are you going by the assumption "Concepts or Illusions" mean concepts and Illusions are equal or same?

If not please explain how the above post says Concepts and Illusions are the same thing.

 

[Y2K]

It seems that you are more cleaver than God

Brother don't ever insult God by saying these kind of things

GOD is the light , true wisdom comes only from GOD (Holy Spirit)



I am nothing when compare to his wisdom

All I have is God's !!!! Praise the Lord

Lord Jesus Christ! Bring Glory to your children !!!

 

[ela_eluwa120]

Are you going by the assumption "Concepts or Illusions" mean concepts and Illusions are equal or same?

If not please explain how the above post says Concepts and Illusions are the same thing.

Actually, saying "concepts or illusions" is ambiguous. This phrase can be interpreted to mean that concepts and illusions are same (or equal). It is, indeed, the first impression I got while I was reading your post. After all, one function of the preposition "or" in English is to introduce synonyms. However, I admit it, the phrase "concepts or illusions" can also mean something like "perhaps concepts perhaps illusions". Presenting alternatives is another function of the preposition 'or'.

 

[diamonddrago]

How to you define following version (Islamic View of Hell)

Not one of you but will pass over it (Sura 19:71)

so according to Allah,everyone will sink into Hell. The phrase "Pass over it" has led many
Islamic theologians to conclude that there might be a bridge (Sirat) spanning Hell right?

To answer this properly i am going to post verses in context of this surah....for that section....

68 So, by your Lord, without doubt, we shall gather them together, and also the demons with them; then shall we bring them forth on their knees round about hell;

69 Then shall we certainly drag out from every sect all those who were worst in obstinate rebellion against Allah most gracious.

70 And certainly we know best those who are most worthy of being burned therein.

71 There is not one of you but will pass over it: this is, with your Lord, a decree which must be accomplished.

72 But we shall save those who guarded against evil, and we shall leave the wrongdoers therein, humbled to their knees.

73 When our clear signs are rehearsed to them, the unbelievers say to those who believe, "Which of the two sides is best in point of position? Which makes the best show in council?"

74 But how many countless generations before them have we destroyed, who were even better in equipment and in glitter to the eye?

75 Say: If any men go astray, Allah most gracious extends the rope to them, until, when they see the warning of Allah being fulfilled either in punishment or in the approach of the Hour, they will at length realize who is worst in position, and who is weakest in forces!

As you can see the "march" is for everyone....demons Muslims and non believers alike....and those who are punished are those who were evil....plotted against Islam etc.....

Please also note that God says he has provided the "rope" or guidance to these men (including the demons and the non believers) and it is out of their own mistakes they will be punished....not just because they are non believers....

 

[diamonddrago]

Brother don't ever insult God by saying these kind of things

GOD is the light , true wisdom comes only from GOD (Holy Spirit)



I am nothing when compare to his wisdom

All I have is God's !!!! Praise the Lord

Lord Jesus Christ! Bring Glory to your children !!!

Please satisfy my curiosity first please....Do you believe the Bible is the word of God? Wasn't it created/written/commissioned by King Constantine many years after the death of Jesus Christ & the apostates who lived with him?...

And hasn't that version been revised countless times into different versions?...So how do you compare the bible to the Quran...which was written under the narration of the prophet (an illiterate man)....and was later compiled after his death?....

There are countless sects in Islam...but even then it is the same quran used under every sect....the difference is the context with which it is used....

the SAME Quran is sued by the terrorists and extremists...as those used by modern Muslims....the only change is the translated context and never the words...

so how can the truth or God's words need to be changed? and if it is changed under who's authority was it changed...and what guarantee is there that the said words are correct?....

 

[Y2K]

Please satisfy my curiosity first please....Do you believe the Bible is the word of God?

Yes I have many reason to b'live



Wasn't it created/written/commissioned by King Constantine many years after the death of Jesus Christ & the apostates who lived with him?... No only differences you find purely because of translation

hasn't that version been revised countless times into different versions?

Not at all do you b'live that God has power to protect his teachings? Bible is the word of God if he can not protect it from Evil how the hell he said he can save us ? ha

Bring some proof then I will disprove

...So how do you compare the bible to the Quran...which was written under the narration of the prophet (an illiterate man)....and was later compiled after his death?....

what is your point?

There are countless sects in Islam...but even then it is the same quran used under every sect....the difference is the context with which it is used....

are you sure about that ?

the SAME Quran is sued by the terrorists and extremists...as those used by modern Muslims....the only change is the translated context and never the words...

ha ha which category is more suitable for you?

so how can the truth or God's words need to be changed? and if it is changed under who's authority was it changed...and what guarantee is there that the said words are correct?...

God has promised that he will protect his words I do b'live in that Bible has many prohercies I have experieced the Holy Spirit I know for sure that Jesus Chist is Son of God

Jesus said:
Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away. - Luke 21:33

I challenge you if you can try to distroy all the copies of the Bible from this world I am damn sure you can not do that

 

[Y2K]

To answer this properly i am going to post verses in context of this surah....for that section....

68 So, by your Lord, without doubt, we shall gather them together, and also the demons with them; then shall we bring them forth on their knees round about hell;

69 Then shall we certainly drag out from every sect all those who were worst in obstinate rebellion against Allah most gracious.

70 And certainly we know best those who are most worthy of being burned therein.

71 There is not one of you but will pass over it: this is, with your Lord, a decree which must be accomplished.

72 But we shall save those who guarded against evil, and we shall leave the wrongdoers therein, humbled to their knees.

73 When our clear signs are rehearsed to them, the unbelievers say to those who believe, "Which of the two sides is best in point of position? Which makes the best show in council?"

74 But how many countless generations before them have we destroyed, who were even better in equipment and in glitter to the eye?

75 Say: If any men go astray, Allah most gracious extends the rope to them, until, when they see the warning of Allah being fulfilled either in punishment or in the approach of the Hour, they will at length realize who is worst in position, and who is weakest in forces!

As you can see the "march" is for everyone....demons Muslims and non believers alike....and those who are punished are those who were evil....plotted against Islam etc.....

Please also note that God says he has provided the "rope" or guidance to these men (including the demons and the non believers) and it is out of their own mistakes they will be punished....not just because they are non believers....

Thank you for the explaination

 

[ibnanv]

BIBLE THAT PROVES ISLAM IS THE TRUTH

 

[AncientGlory]

Actually, saying "concepts or illusions" is ambiguous. This phrase can be interpreted to mean that concepts and illusions are same (or equal). It is, indeed, the first impression I got while I was reading your post. After all, one function of the preposition "or" in English is to introduce synonyms. However, I admit it, the phrase "concepts or illusions" can also mean something like "perhaps concepts perhaps illusions". Presenting alternatives is another function of the preposition 'or'.

Yes, since it is ambiguous I would have hoped that you'd be more open minded while reading it. In such a case the burden of misinterpretation falls on the reader not the writer. Anyways good that we could settle this.

 

[ibnanv]