alfulani5Mar 1, 2014
+mrmsn1000 Please dont jump into a conversation before reading the entire conversation.
This Harini character (sounds like a 50 rupee lawyer roaming Hulfsdorp) was trying to tell that there is no freedom for women in Islam WITHOUT even knowing the meaning of freedom!!
mrmsn1000Mar 1, 2014
+alfulani5
thank you idiotic of me for not reading the full thing Thank You very much for letting me see the conversation keep up youre work May ALLAH Bless You and we the Muslim ummah always with you INSAALLAH
Haddock CaptainMay 1, 2014
machan oru wadam weppoma . naan sellren muhammed oru pombula kallan endu. aza poof panna ena kitta adaramum irikidu
alfulani5May 18, 2014
+Haddock Captain LOL Onda adaratha ondea vesa ammada pundela amukku!!
Haddock CaptainMay 18, 2014
engadawanoluku iwallow theriyum. ondo ummawa ilutthu esireyi. illati kolla selli fatuwawa kudukkareyi. adeyi nan ona kitta oru wishayam kekiren. yarawazu ottan onaya kuduwela potu sangiliyala ketti .onada munnukku onda pondattiya awan katilukku eduthaa ni awanaku pombula kallan endu selluwiya illaya ?
alfulani5May 19, 2014
+Haddock Captain Type in English or Tamil. I dont have the time to read your stupid gutter language you are typing you para vesige putha!!
Haddock CaptainMay 19, 2014
+alfulani5 l 'm asking one simple question ...
if any one who has the power , put you inside a prison and take your wife to bed to have sex how do you call that man ?
Haddock CaptainMay 19, 2014
+alfulani5 Using Bad words wont help
alfulani5May 19, 2014
+Haddock Captain Same way YOU talking crap about Islam will not achieve achieve anything!!
Haddock CaptainMay 19, 2014
+alfulani5
l 'm asking one simple question ...
if any one who has the power , put you inside a prison and take your wife to bed to have sex how do you call that man ? can you answer this basic question ?
alfulani5May 19, 2014
+Haddock Captain Give me the full story!! I don't make comments based on a dumb view of a retard.
Haddock CaptainMay 19, 2014
+alfulani5 this is the story. Muhammadh Attacked a village and killed all fighting men. then there were non fighting men with their wivves. Muhammad allowed his followers to have sex with those womans while their husbands were alive and they were in the prison. i'm asking you is this correct ? isn't this come under rape & war crimes ?
alfulani5May 19, 2014
+Haddock Captain Where is the story from? Just because you son of a bitch say it I dont need to justify it!!
Haddock CaptainMay 19, 2014
+alfulani5
Story is from Sahih Muslim.(and quran also confirm this )
http://sunnah.com/muslim/17/43
This is Clear as Crystal Muhammad Allowed himself and his followers to rape married women
WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY
alfulani5May 20, 2014
+Haddock Captain This is the typical story of giving a garland to a monkey. http://www.astudyofquran.org/web/index.php?id=93,0,0,1,0,0
Haddock CaptainMay 20, 2014
+alfulani5 That article full of lies.
1 Author says that 4.23 prohibits sexual relation ship other than lawful wife .
but 4.23 dose not state that . it says who are prohibited to get married with.
you can check it here
http://quran.com/4/3 2 He's Speaking About 23.6 of Quran. In the article he says
>>>Again the problem arise as we take the verses in isolation i.e. without considreing other relevant verses.<<<.
but here intentionally or mistakenly forget to follow above principle. actually verse 23.6 is meaning less if you leave 23.5 aside.
the combined verse look like this.
---- And they who guard their private parts Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed --
Now above verse clearly points who you can have sex with
a. Their Wives
b Slaves
http://quran.com/23/5
http://quran.com/23/6
3 Marriage of slaves
4:25,4.3 and other quoted verse dose not prohibits salve sex. it state if you want you can marry from salves (already raped).
AlFulan. Before you post something please verify and post.
alfulani5May 21, 2014
+Haddock Captain where the hell do you get this from?? " (already raped)."??
alfulani5May 21, 2014
+alfulani5 And by the way even if there is permission of having sex with slaves WHAT IS THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM? Islam is the only realistic religion which says eye for an eye and ear for an ear. If the enemies enslave our people we enslave them. If they hit us we are commanded to hit them harder!! Whereas whatever pagan religion you are following says offer the other cheek or just stay put!!
Haddock CaptainMay 21, 2014
WHAT IS THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM?
problem is i born and lived as a Muslim for 33 years in my life. believing these nonsense for 33 years ...bullshit of Muhammad . you are saying eye for eye and ear for ear is Islam. but i dont believe in that theory . i believe in love and peace. if its eye for eye and ear for ear how come Islam as the religion of peace. its religion of vengeance & babarism .i'm a atheist now after leaving Islam. so i font have a religion . so your pagan accusations are invalid.
You're still saying what Muhammad did for those woman is correct. now lets put that it to another perspective.
Say Muhammad and His Followers attacked your village and took you , your father and your mother as captives. now what Muhammad do is put you and your father inside a prison and drag your mother to Muhammad's bed to have sex/ do you still say Muhammad is correct ?
Don't Lie Muhammad only fought back with whom already attacking Muslims. Muhammad attacked innocent villages . i can show you evidences.
Haddock CaptainMay 21, 2014
+alfulani5
Connected With Previous Comment
where the hell do you get this from?? " (already raped)."??
No Need to get it from some other place.
initial Hadith i quoted clearly states raping of slaves. then if you like those slaves you can
marry them.
alfulani5May 21, 2014
It looks you have been posessed. Where is the command to rape the slaves?
alfulani5May 21, 2014
+Haddock Captain And by the way Islam is peaceful for the Peace loving. Islam preaches fairness and does justice for the effected. All the other religions preach peace BUT practice vengeance like Gnanasara ponnaya.
Haddock CaptainMay 21, 2014
Question Where is the command to rape the slaves?
Answer : It is permissible to have intercourse with a female captive after it is established that she is not pregnant, and if she has a husband, then her marriage is annulled when she is captured.
http://sunnah.com/muslim/17/43
This hadith is from sahih muslim. it says even though slaves are married you don't need to care about it. if you have have intercourse. who is Muhammad or islam to annul others marriage . and do you think if you put her husband inside a prison then she willing coming to sleep with muhammadh . what a joke. you are saying Islam is peaceful. then why 90% of the terrorist are muslims?
why death penalty for apostasy in Islam if it's peaceful. brother i have gone all of your arguments you posted here but none of them make sense. tell me this who is Muhammad or Islam to Nullify a marriage between 2 parties ? don't you feel something is wrong there ? it's like nanasaara coming telling to you and your wife I have nullified your marriage . and this is not the only case with muhammadh there are plenty
1 Wedlock of Saphiya
2 Juwairiyah
3 Jingi Jikan with maria servent of hafsa
4. Zainab . Muhammad Desired his Daughter in Law Zainab
and many more,
i was trying to find answers for these incident but non of the our moulavis or ulamaas gave a convincing answer? they just tried to justify as yo do . so i made a decision to leave Islam . i made my decisions with clear facts not by a possession.
Is Islam Fair for all of humanity ? No.
If its fair why islam place Jizya on non Muslims in a Muslim country. I was born and lived as a Muslim in this country. I never paid any taxes for being Muslim. But if you got to islamic countries non belivers has to pay jizya.
Brother this is just i started to question these matters publicly (Izu Summa Trailer thaan. main pichar kanda islamiya samudayame sinna binnam aawum. thamul pesum makkallukku inza wishayam gal kona powen.islaam enda mooda nambikkaya illama akurazukku enayaala elumaana mattu muyerchi seywen(aayudhathaal alla budhdhiyaal)). if zaakir naik comes again to sri lanka i will ask this questions from him in public in Tamil.
alfulani5May 21, 2014
+Haddock Captain You loser said you are an atheist. And atheists dont do weddings you fool!! They just screw like dogs in the streets. And you being an atheist and not expected to believe in marriage WHY THE HELL DO YOU CARE?
alfulani5May 21, 2014
+Haddock Captain Sinnapinnam my foot!! Islam has seen bigger shaitans than you you sons of bitches. You pieces of dirt are are as worthless as a fly from Islam's point of view.
alfulani5May 21, 2014
+Haddock Captain I feel pity for offspring of street prostitutes like you who doesnt know his father.
Haddock CaptainMay 21, 2014
cool cool. yes i said I'm an atheist now. after leaving Islam I'm an atheist . in your dictionary dose atheism means people who don't do weddings . just have sex on public ? you got a change your dictionary bro. atheist means not believing in a Creation Concept and Not believing it's GOD(s).
I'm not a looser here bro . you skipped several questions. i know according to your intellect you know above incidents are wrong . but your hart dose not willing to accept it; (pallila selluwanga ninga budhdhikki moodhal edam kudukawaanam . eemaanki kudunga endu. azamaari than ningalum. muhammadh senja wishayam wrong endu welanguzu aanaa oppu kolla puriyam illa. ). thats how it was for me initially.
Please Answer the questions i made
+mrmsn1000 Please dont jump into a conversation before reading the entire conversation.
This Harini character (sounds like a 50 rupee lawyer roaming Hulfsdorp) was trying to tell that there is no freedom for women in Islam WITHOUT even knowing the meaning of freedom!!
mrmsn1000Mar 1, 2014+alfulani5
thank you idiotic of me for not reading the full thing Thank You very much for letting me see the conversation keep up youre work May ALLAH Bless You and we the Muslim ummah always with you INSAALLAH
Haddock CaptainMay 1, 2014machan oru wadam weppoma . naan sellren muhammed oru pombula kallan endu. aza poof panna ena kitta adaramum irikidu
alfulani5May 18, 2014+Haddock Captain LOL Onda adaratha ondea vesa ammada pundela amukku!!
Haddock CaptainMay 18, 2014engadawanoluku iwallow theriyum. ondo ummawa ilutthu esireyi. illati kolla selli fatuwawa kudukkareyi. adeyi nan ona kitta oru wishayam kekiren. yarawazu ottan onaya kuduwela potu sangiliyala ketti .onada munnukku onda pondattiya awan katilukku eduthaa ni awanaku pombula kallan endu selluwiya illaya ?
alfulani5May 19, 2014+Haddock Captain Type in English or Tamil. I dont have the time to read your stupid gutter language you are typing you para vesige putha!!
Haddock CaptainMay 19, 2014+alfulani5 l 'm asking one simple question ...
if any one who has the power , put you inside a prison and take your wife to bed to have sex how do you call that man ?
Haddock CaptainMay 19, 2014+alfulani5 Using Bad words wont help
alfulani5May 19, 2014+Haddock Captain Same way YOU talking crap about Islam will not achieve achieve anything!!
Haddock CaptainMay 19, 2014+alfulani5
l 'm asking one simple question ...
if any one who has the power , put you inside a prison and take your wife to bed to have sex how do you call that man ? can you answer this basic question ?
alfulani5May 19, 2014+Haddock Captain Give me the full story!! I don't make comments based on a dumb view of a retard.
Haddock CaptainMay 19, 2014+alfulani5 this is the story. Muhammadh Attacked a village and killed all fighting men. then there were non fighting men with their wivves. Muhammad allowed his followers to have sex with those womans while their husbands were alive and they were in the prison. i'm asking you is this correct ? isn't this come under rape & war crimes ?
alfulani5May 19, 2014+Haddock Captain Where is the story from? Just because you son of a bitch say it I dont need to justify it!!
Haddock CaptainMay 19, 2014+alfulani5
Story is from Sahih Muslim.(and quran also confirm this )
http://sunnah.com/muslim/17/43
This is Clear as Crystal Muhammad Allowed himself and his followers to rape married women
WAITING FOR YOUR REPLY
alfulani5May 20, 2014+Haddock Captain This is the typical story of giving a garland to a monkey. http://www.astudyofquran.org/web/index.php?id=93,0,0,1,0,0
Haddock CaptainMay 20, 2014+alfulani5 That article full of lies.
1 Author says that 4.23 prohibits sexual relation ship other than lawful wife .
but 4.23 dose not state that . it says who are prohibited to get married with.
you can check it here
http://quran.com/4/3 2 He's Speaking About 23.6 of Quran. In the article he says
>>>Again the problem arise as we take the verses in isolation i.e. without considreing other relevant verses.<<<.
but here intentionally or mistakenly forget to follow above principle. actually verse 23.6 is meaning less if you leave 23.5 aside.
the combined verse look like this.
---- And they who guard their private parts Except from their wives or those their right hands possess, for indeed, they will not be blamed --
Now above verse clearly points who you can have sex with
a. Their Wives
b Slaves
http://quran.com/23/5
http://quran.com/23/6
3 Marriage of slaves
4:25,4.3 and other quoted verse dose not prohibits salve sex. it state if you want you can marry from salves (already raped).
AlFulan. Before you post something please verify and post.
alfulani5May 21, 2014+Haddock Captain where the hell do you get this from?? " (already raped)."??
alfulani5May 21, 2014+alfulani5 And by the way even if there is permission of having sex with slaves WHAT IS THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM? Islam is the only realistic religion which says eye for an eye and ear for an ear. If the enemies enslave our people we enslave them. If they hit us we are commanded to hit them harder!! Whereas whatever pagan religion you are following says offer the other cheek or just stay put!!
Haddock CaptainMay 21, 2014WHAT IS THE HELL IS YOUR PROBLEM?
problem is i born and lived as a Muslim for 33 years in my life. believing these nonsense for 33 years ...bullshit of Muhammad . you are saying eye for eye and ear for ear is Islam. but i dont believe in that theory . i believe in love and peace. if its eye for eye and ear for ear how come Islam as the religion of peace. its religion of vengeance & babarism .i'm a atheist now after leaving Islam. so i font have a religion . so your pagan accusations are invalid.
You're still saying what Muhammad did for those woman is correct. now lets put that it to another perspective.
Say Muhammad and His Followers attacked your village and took you , your father and your mother as captives. now what Muhammad do is put you and your father inside a prison and drag your mother to Muhammad's bed to have sex/ do you still say Muhammad is correct ?
Don't Lie Muhammad only fought back with whom already attacking Muslims. Muhammad attacked innocent villages . i can show you evidences.
Haddock CaptainMay 21, 2014+alfulani5
Connected With Previous Comment
where the hell do you get this from?? " (already raped)."??
No Need to get it from some other place.
initial Hadith i quoted clearly states raping of slaves. then if you like those slaves you can
marry them.
alfulani5May 21, 2014It looks you have been posessed. Where is the command to rape the slaves?
alfulani5May 21, 2014+Haddock Captain And by the way Islam is peaceful for the Peace loving. Islam preaches fairness and does justice for the effected. All the other religions preach peace BUT practice vengeance like Gnanasara ponnaya.
Haddock CaptainMay 21, 2014Question Where is the command to rape the slaves?
Answer : It is permissible to have intercourse with a female captive after it is established that she is not pregnant, and if she has a husband, then her marriage is annulled when she is captured.
http://sunnah.com/muslim/17/43
This hadith is from sahih muslim. it says even though slaves are married you don't need to care about it. if you have have intercourse. who is Muhammad or islam to annul others marriage . and do you think if you put her husband inside a prison then she willing coming to sleep with muhammadh . what a joke. you are saying Islam is peaceful. then why 90% of the terrorist are muslims?
why death penalty for apostasy in Islam if it's peaceful. brother i have gone all of your arguments you posted here but none of them make sense. tell me this who is Muhammad or Islam to Nullify a marriage between 2 parties ? don't you feel something is wrong there ? it's like nanasaara coming telling to you and your wife I have nullified your marriage . and this is not the only case with muhammadh there are plenty
1 Wedlock of Saphiya
2 Juwairiyah
3 Jingi Jikan with maria servent of hafsa
4. Zainab . Muhammad Desired his Daughter in Law Zainab
and many more,
i was trying to find answers for these incident but non of the our moulavis or ulamaas gave a convincing answer? they just tried to justify as yo do . so i made a decision to leave Islam . i made my decisions with clear facts not by a possession.
Is Islam Fair for all of humanity ? No.
If its fair why islam place Jizya on non Muslims in a Muslim country. I was born and lived as a Muslim in this country. I never paid any taxes for being Muslim. But if you got to islamic countries non belivers has to pay jizya.
Brother this is just i started to question these matters publicly (Izu Summa Trailer thaan. main pichar kanda islamiya samudayame sinna binnam aawum. thamul pesum makkallukku inza wishayam gal kona powen.islaam enda mooda nambikkaya illama akurazukku enayaala elumaana mattu muyerchi seywen(aayudhathaal alla budhdhiyaal)). if zaakir naik comes again to sri lanka i will ask this questions from him in public in Tamil.
alfulani5May 21, 2014+Haddock Captain You loser said you are an atheist. And atheists dont do weddings you fool!! They just screw like dogs in the streets. And you being an atheist and not expected to believe in marriage WHY THE HELL DO YOU CARE?
alfulani5May 21, 2014+Haddock Captain Sinnapinnam my foot!! Islam has seen bigger shaitans than you you sons of bitches. You pieces of dirt are are as worthless as a fly from Islam's point of view.
alfulani5May 21, 2014+Haddock Captain I feel pity for offspring of street prostitutes like you who doesnt know his father.
Haddock CaptainMay 21, 2014cool cool. yes i said I'm an atheist now. after leaving Islam I'm an atheist . in your dictionary dose atheism means people who don't do weddings . just have sex on public ? you got a change your dictionary bro. atheist means not believing in a Creation Concept and Not believing it's GOD(s).
I'm not a looser here bro . you skipped several questions. i know according to your intellect you know above incidents are wrong . but your hart dose not willing to accept it; (pallila selluwanga ninga budhdhikki moodhal edam kudukawaanam . eemaanki kudunga endu. azamaari than ningalum. muhammadh senja wishayam wrong endu welanguzu aanaa oppu kolla puriyam illa. ). thats how it was for me initially.
Please Answer the questions i made
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