End of EV????

[dinuksha_asela]

nope. hydrogen for cars is insanely bad choice.
just think about hydrogen manufacturing, storing, transporting, dispensing in fuel stations. now think you have to do all those things keeping the hydrogen in minus celcius and highly presurized reinforced tanks, tubes.
shed ekata gihin winadiyen tank eka refill wenawa arenna anith hama aspect ekenma hydrogen bad decision.

hydrogen for long haul prime movers, catepillars wage ewata hoda wei for next 30 years wage. eita passe ewath EV karanna puluwan wei.

hydrogen hodatama set wenne large ships, planes walata. e dekata mama hithanne na next 100 years battery tech eka hadanna puluwan wei kiyala. ships & planes walata hydrogen supiri.


no. toyota mirai eka epic fail. mama udin damma some reasons why hydrogen cars is one of the most stupidest ideas.

Your thoughts (or for that matter my Thoughts are) in here is not relevant.. Industry standards and methods does, you could say the same for ICE until they introduced into the market long time back..

 

[pavithra_uk]

ඊවී පට්ට අඩුවට දුන්නොත් හැර ගොඩක් මිනිස්සු ගන්නේ නෑ
යූ.ඇස් & ඒ වලත් ඒම නං අනිත් රටවල් කොහොම වෙයිද

 

[paddypower]

‍ඔයාගේ චාජින් පොයින්ට් එකට එන විදුලිය නිපදවෙන්නේ වැඩිහරිය ෆොසිල ඉන්ධන භාවිතයෙන් දුවන බලාගාර වලින් . අප්පගේ ඉකෝ අප්පගේ සස්ටේනබල්

Eco magulak nemei ban man kiyanne. Cost effective kiyala

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Ai Batteries.. hithan inne ewa ibe pahala wenawa kiyala.. lol

මොඩ හරක්. Solar gahanawata $10000 , home charger eka free, off peek charging free. මෙච්චර free denakota ev ගන්නේ නැත්තේ , එවා ගන්න සල්ලී නැති නිසා , මොකද $2000 ta , 3000ta වගේ ev ganna බැනේ. හොද රටකට පලයල්ලා. නැත්තම් පුතානෝට දීලා ඇරගනිල්ලා
------ Post added on May 21, 2024 at 3:07 PM

 

[Don GasCan]

Eco magulak nemei ban man kiyanne. Cost effective kiyala

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ඒ පෞද්ගලික පිරිවැය නේ . ඕවා රන් වෙන්නෙ ෆොසිල ඉන්දන දහනයෙන් 90% ඉතින් රටට පිරිවැයක් යනවා එක පැත්තකින් . පරිසරය හානි පුර්න පිරිවැය නම් ඉතින් ආයේ ගන්න ලෙසියෙන් බෑ .

මේක නිකං ආ පල්ලෙහානේ ගිනිගන්නේ අපි උඩනෙ අපිට අවුලක් නෑ කිව්වා වගේ

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oya katha karanne political side eken. political side eken ev walata lokuma keyword eka 'emission' thama.

mama kiyanne technology perspective eken. technology side eken gaththama ev kiyanne land vehicles walata hodama tech eka emission is only a part of it. mama emissions athin gaththath ev coal power walin charge karath still better wenna reason eka explian kala uda.

danata thiyena battery & charging limitations nisa, hama land vehicle ekatama Electric practicle na, ewata ICE or Hybrid hodai.
but EVs only get better with time. ICE wala thawa progress weemak na. okai mama adahas karanne.

true. but we can fix all of those. danata ev battery wala cobolt use wena nisa owage child labour thiyena mines walin samahara company purchase karanawa. but mama danna tharamata godak strict rules thiyena europe companies ewage sources walin ganne na.
anith eka ev dan thiyena battery tech ekama digatama use karanna one kiyala deyak na petrol or diesel wage.
danatama godak company cobolt adu karala nickel, sodium wage ewata shift wenna aran thiyenawa. ekai mama kiyanne issarahata owa godak hadenawa.


battery dispose walin wena impact ekata solution eka recycle karana eka misak. ev wisik karala sada kalika ice use karamu kiyana eka wisadumak neme. kalinuth damma wage danata ev market eka loku nathi nisath, depose karanna wena battery enawa adu nisath investorsla thama mega recycling plant walata invest karanne na. but with the time it's gonna be better.

mama eka thama kiwwem danata thiyena technology eka anuwa hama usecase ekatama EV hariyanne na.
cross country distances, hauling trucks walata wage hybrid thama hodama option eka danata.
kawru hari kenek tesla ekak aran geniyak dikiye dan yanawanam, eita kalin uta molayak denna one. uge use eka anuwa wahanayak thoraganna buddiya denna.

again kiyanawa, EV danata thiyena battery, charging ekka hamotama galapenne nathi wenna puluwan but with the time it will only get better.


who said you can mine without damaging? I said the tech companies researching / testing once that doesn't need any mining at all. quoted below



100% most probably not. but over 85% 90% can be recycled afaik. & with tech like sodium batteries you don't have to worry about recycling. but recycling always helps. yes recycling will add some cost to the batteries yet with the technology things will only improve. that's only way. batteries will be cheaper, last longer, easier to recycle.


what youre saying is political matter. I'm talking in technical perspective. these are two different factors.
I personally don't agree that anyone pushing toward EV or ICE by force. people should get to choose what they prefer.


I think this is short term market behaviour. EV sales will get better with time in global market.


true

kelo gaththa kiyanna ba. meka short term deyak. global EV sales wadi wei with the time.

mokakda mature enough kiyala defin wena level eka? mature kiyana eka subjective.
danatama thiyena EV tech ICE walata wada hodata match wena kattiya innawa, eyalata mature enough already.
but ton ganak bara adagena 1000km yana ayata mature na.

ev technology maturity is subjective. ekanisa ehema mature wenakan public noda hitiyoth kiyatawath oka eliyata enne na.
1800s ICE engine thiyena wahanath ehenam okkoma features ekka 'mature' wenakan market ekata noda horse cart walin thama yanna wenna 1980s wage wenakan.

ev reputation ekata kela weemak na. technology eka gana hithana ayata development ekak witharai thiyenne. we have better EVs now than what we had 10 years ago.

true. pushing EV by force isn't good. customer should have the freedom.

true. public transport EV or atleast Hybrid kalanam loku benefit ekak enawa.

කොස්ට් ඉෆෙක්ට්ව් වෙන්නේ පෞද්ගලිකව නේ. ඒත් පරිසර හානිය ප්‍රතිපුර්ණය කරන්න සමාජ හානිය ප්‍රතිපුර්ණය කරන්න ඊට වඩා වියදම් වෙනවා
------ Post added on May 21, 2024 at 3:32 PM

 

[imhotep]

We have to wait and see. Toyota is developing Ammonia engines. When alternative fuels play a part naturally fossil fuel prices would fall.

 

[gnilukshi]

ඇයි බං උබලා පරිසර මගුලක් ගැන හිතන්නේ?

වියදම අඩුනම් එච්චරයි නේ

 

[Draco Malfoy]

Your thoughts (or for that matter my Thoughts are) in here is not relevant.. Industry standards and methods does, you could say the same for ICE until they introduced into the market long time back..

I can't clearly understand about what you meant here.

කොස්ට් ඉෆෙක්ට්ව් වෙන්නේ පෞද්ගලිකව නේ. ඒත් පරිසර හානිය ප්‍රතිපුර්ණය කරන්න සමාජ හානිය ප්‍රතිපුර්ණය කරන්න ඊට වඩා වියදම් වෙනවා
------ Post added on May 21, 2024 at 3:32 PM

personal cost eka witharak neme global level ekenuth cost effective wenawa evs in futrue with the new tech. habai danata mining nisa wena damage eka recover karanna nam loku time ekak and cost ekak yanawa. but issarahata ena tech ekka aluthen add wena damage eka aduma wela yanawa.
but fossile fuel walin nam me wenakan una damage eka recover karanna amarui ev walatath wada. (eg: leaded petrol) e wagema ice engine walin issaraha wena damage eka adu karanna widiyak na because even in 100 years we still burn petrol & diesel. danata ice engines walin emission adu wela thiyenneth hybrid tech integrate karala thiyena nisa.

 

[Don GasCan]

personal cost eka witharak neme global level ekenuth cost effective wenawa evs in futrue with the new tech. habai danata mining nisa wena damage eka recover karanna nam loku time ekak and cost ekak yanawa. but issarahata ena tech ekka aluthen add wena damage eka aduma wela yanawa.
but fossile fuel walin nam me wenakan una damage eka recover karanna amarui ev walatath wada. (eg: leaded petrol) e wagema ice engine walin issaraha wena damage eka adu karanna widiyak na because even in 100 years we still burn petrol & diesel. danata ice engines walin emission adu wela thiyenneth hybrid tech integrate karala thiyena nisa.

ev වලට වඩා සස්ටේනබල් එක්කට යන්න ඕනේ .

කොමත් අමුද්‍රවය හොයන්න ඕනේ හාරල
එවගෙන් පරිසරය විනාස වෙනවා ඉවත් කරනකොට .

ev කස්ටමර් මාකට් එක අඩුයි. දැන් ආන්ඩු වලින් ඉස්සරට බලෙන් ඇගේ ගහනවා . ෆොසිල් එවට දඩ හෝ අධික බදු ගහයි
පැට්‍රල් ගනන් වැඩි කරයි

 

[JokerFan]

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[Draco Malfoy]

ev වලට වඩා සස්ටේනබල් එක්කට යන්න ඕනේ .

ev walata wada sustainable options thiyena technology ekak me wenakan nam mama ahala na. but I could be wrong. hydrogen eka ev walata wada unsustainable.
ammonia base mokakhari ekak toyota eken karanawa. eka kohomada danne na.

කොමත් අමුද්‍රවය හොයන්න ඕනේ හාරල
එවගෙන් පරිසරය විනාස වෙනවා ඉවත් කරනකොට .

ehemama na machan. danata announce karala thiyena sodium-ion batteries walata sodium mining one na. can make from sea water. but ion walata nam mining or recycle walin one wenawa. eth ithin ev neme hydrogen neme, car ekak hadannanam kohomath ion one wenawane.

danata battery wala thiyena nickel, cobolt walata nam addition mining one wenawa, eka true. but eka change karana one tharam technical options, paths already thiyenawa. eka nisa ewa completely ain karala petrol, diesel walata witharak ayema yanna one kiyana eka waradi because oil ganneth drill karala polewen eita passe burn karala danawa.
eka nisa ev, petrol/diesel , hybrid option okkoma thiyenna one (except hydrogen for light weight vehicles like cars, suv, pickups) customer ge use-case eke hatiyata wada suite wena eka select karaganna puluwan.

ev කස්ටමර් මාකට් එක අඩුයි.

true. ev charging, battery energy density or cost factor eka nisa godak ayata thama shift wenna ba. but issarahata tika tika hadei technology eka improve wenakota.

දැන් ආන්ඩු වලින් ඉස්සරට බලෙන් ඇගේ ගහනවා .

true. forced adoption ekak yana ekanam waradi. balen age gahuwama ara oya kiwwa wage diesel generator ekak boot eke dan ev drive karannai wenne.

ෆොසිල් එවට දඩ හෝ අධික බදු ගහයි
පැට්‍රල් ගනන් වැඩි කරයි

mewage dewal nam wenna puluwan. mama hithanne 2030 weddi london city ekata fossile fuel car enter wenna ba kiyala law ekak genalla thiyenawa already. ewage scene hena awul ithin duppath or ev suite nowena ayata danata thiyena wahana ain karala ev walata shift wenna bane.
anith eka eken hodata wada karana parana wahana tika nikan goda gahenawa which is also damaging to environment.

but political changes, public movement ekka issarahata ev ban karanna one kiyala wenas wennath puluwan.

 

[dinuksha_asela]