Key Facts about Swine Influenza (Swine Flu)

[Mononoke]

See your data is baseless, H1N1 even can spread from human to human,it even would have spread due to movement of people. for instance I know in saudi H1N1 1st confirmed from a visitor, in kuwait 1st it was confirmed in US army base and etc.its all about western countries root cause for this disease.

NOW I NEED YOU TO GIVE ME A CHART IN HOW MANY MUSLIM COUNTRIES H1N1 STARTED FROM PIGS and THEY WERE ROOT CAUSE FOR THIS DISEASE AND HOW MANY CASE???? This is the only question is relevant here.

My data isn't baseless, hasifaads claim saying 'islamic countries were saved from the swine flu' proves to be bogus. His claim has nothing to do with how the swine flu got there. Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your forte.

And do you think the H1N1 miraculously manifests in pigs, having pig around doesn't automatically mean swine flu. It has to get their through an agent. Swine flu is spreading around the world because of humans and not pigs. So i guess humans are to blame for most of the current problem, did your almighty say something about humans being dirty

One more thing, swine flu can easily jump from human to pig and pig to human because we both share lot of genetic material. I guess Allah made us a little bit dirty as well.

 

[I love Srilanka]

My data isn't baseless, hasifaads claim saying 'islamic countries were saved from the swine flu' proves to be bogus. His claim has nothing to do with how the swine flu got there. Reading comprehension doesn't seem to be your forte.

And do you think the H1N1 miraculously manifests in pigs, having pig around doesn't automatically mean swine flu. It has to get their through an agent. Swine flu is spreading around the world because of humans and not pigs. So i guess humans are to blame for most of the current problem, did your almighty say something about humans being dirty

I don't know what hafizaad meant.I hope he meant that swine flu directly spread from pigs is saved.
my dear Before you blame humans you have to blame pigs 1st. it never started from human. though it is spread from human to human as people are travelling all over the world, of course even if pigs are travelling around the world,we will have more problem than this.
My almighty and your almighty is same Mr.mononke. but i hope you mean Quran, yeah of course Quran never say anything abt Human dirty but say abour pigs are dirty as Quarn is the only book on the face of earth which is pin pointing on the root cause not on the intermediary.
please note Muslim country is not a reason for this swine flu, you know well from where this started.

 

[Mononoke]

I don't know what hafizaad meant.I hope he meant that swine flu directly spread from pigs is saved.
my dear Before you blame humans you have to blame pigs 1st. it never started from human. though it is spread from human to human as people are travelling all over the world, of course even if pigs are travelling around the world,we will have more problem than this.
My almighty and your almighty is same Mr.mononke. but i hope you mean Quran, yeah of course Quran never say anything abt Human dirty but say abour pigs are dirty as Quarn is the only book on the face of earth which is pin pointing on the root cause not on the intermediary.
please note Muslim country is not a reason for this swine flu, you know well from where this started.

If you don't know what hazifaad meant how on earth can you make sense of what I was saying. Are you stupid, or is the word 'contextualize' alien to you.

'It never started from from pigs' as well; as far as we know, it started with birds. In any case, H1N1 is continuously and rapidly evolving, so the present variant is quite different from the original strand that came from Mexico. And sooner or later swine flue will become very different from the intermediate form that started the outbreak.

please note Muslim country is not a reason for this swine flu, you know well from where this started.

Yet another one of your silly statements. last time I checked viruses didn't carry citizenship. This is as stupid as saying the recent tsunami hitting Indonesia is the fault of their heretical belief in god. Ane, mole pawichchi karala type karapan.

 

[I love Srilanka]

If you don't know what hazifaad meant how on earth can you make sense of what I was saying. Are you stupid, or is the word 'contextualize' alien to you.

'It never started from from pigs' as well; as far as we know, it started with birds. In any case, H1N1 is continuously and rapidly evolving, so the present variant is quite different from the original strand that came from Mexico. And sooner or later swine flue will become very different from the intermediate form that started the outbreak.
Yet another one of your silly statements. last time I checked viruses didn't carry citizenship. This is as stupid as saying the recent tsunami hitting Indonesia is the fault of there heretical belief in god. Ane, mole pawichchi karala type karapan.

U seems to be damn stupid, if u ask even a Montessori student, he will say Swine flu started from pigs. you should be a new scientist claim to have spread from birds and trying to change the name bird flu instead swineflu...are u mad. normally u use wikipedia for reference i also use same wikipedia to prove this...check it out what is swine flu...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_influenza

1st of all, ane !!oyata mole thiyannawatha??

 

[njsa]

U seems to be damn stupid, if u ask even a Montessori student, he will say Swine flu started from pigs. you should be a new scientist claim to have spread from birds and trying to change the name bird flu instead swineflu...are u mad. normally u use wikipedia for reference i also use same wikipedia to prove this...check it out what is swine flu...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swine_influenza

1st of all, ane !!oyata mole thiyannawatha??

may be he is talking about swan flu...not swine flu......?

 

[sirajstc]

may be he is talking about swan flu...not swine flu......?

Etta komath tittay ne kottara kiwwath piliganne ne so better not argue with them

 

[Mononoke]

Why is it that some people are utterly ignorant yet supremely arrogant. Swine flu is a mutant strain of influenza A. This virus was originally found in birds, then jumped around from birds to humans to pigs and all over the place. The current 'swine flu' is only one such jump. Pigs are an intermediate host for the virus, which copies it's host DNA and evolves rapidly.The H1N1 is recombining and evolving as we speak, pretty soon it will look nothing like the 'swine flu' H1N1.

Note the complete history of swine flu:

Six months ago, swine flu emerged as a massive threat to global health. It seemed to come out of nowhere, but our timeline explains how the origins of the H1N1 pandemic go back more than a century
1889

Prior to 1889, the main flu virus circulating in humans has been from the H1 family. But this year, a new strain of H2 flu emerges in Russia and spreads around the world, killing about 1 million people. Afterwards, H2 replaces H1 in humans. Such replacements seem to be a regular feature of flu pandemics.
People born before 1889, who have been exposed to H1 flu, have some immunity to it. This affords them some protection in the deadly H1N1 epidemic of 1918. Those born after 1889 do not have any immunity to H1.
1918

The "Spanish flu" epidemic of 1918 kills at least 50 million people worldwide. It is caused by an H1N1 virus which evolves directly from a bird flu into a human flu.
After a mild wave of infections in the summer, the epidemic goes global: one-third of the population eventually get sick. Although most cases are mild, many sufferers develop a rapidly fatal infection deep in their lungs. People born before 1889 are less susceptible, thanks to their previous exposure to H1N1.
Most deaths are caused by bacterial lung infections that move in after the virus. Modern antibiotics might mean that a re-run of the 1918 pandemic would be less dangerous.
After 1919, the descendants of the H1N1 virus continue to circulate and cause seasonal flu outbreaks in humans – and pigs.
1931

Swine flu is first isolated from a pig in Iowa.
1933

The first human flu virus is isolated at Mill Hill in London. When given to ferrets, it produces a disease whose symptoms are all but identical to the Iowan pig virus. But ferrets that have had the human virus are not fully immune to the pig virus, showing that the two viruses have already started to evolve apart.

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Dr Chris Smith: The flu is a very ancestrally old illness. It's a virus that has been around for thousands of years. It started off as an infection in birds and slowly over those thousands of years diversified to infect every single warm-blooded animal on Earth and a few cold-blooded ones, including snakes.
All these different organisms have their own forms of flu and periodically they can exchange them with other related animals. Birds can exchange their forms of flu with us, that gives us bird flu and periodically spawns one type of pandemic. Also, pigs can exchange their form of flu with birds and perhaps other large mammals, including horses. Because pigs, as very big mammals, are so similar to humans, they can also exchange viruses with humans and this is why we think the present outbreak could have occurred.
A pig could have had a form of flu and if a pig worker infects that pig with a form of human flu, the pig can then be co-infected with two very similar viruses at the same time. The way that flu organises its genetic material makes it very easy for the virus to do what is called reassortment. You can get a hybrid where the worst bits of both viruses combine, producing a super-virus.
You end up with a virus which has an outer coat resembling the outer coat of the pig form of the virus, but has the inner workings and the ability to evade the human immune system of the human form, which means it can spread very readily amongst humans. Because it looks like nothing we've seen before, there is no "herd immunity" in the population, so it spreads very effectively and very easily.

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Q: This super-virus we're looking at now is said to be a cross between a pig flu, a human flu and also the bird flu, which has been deadly too. Does this make it even more dangerous?
Dr Smith: Flu is broken down into a number of different types: there's flu A, flu B and flu C. Flu A is the bird form and, of course, humans also have a flu A. Then we further categorise it according to the surface molecules, the H (for Haemagglutinin) and the N on the surface.
This new strain is a H1N1 virus, which we know circulates in humans, pigs and birds. It's possible that the pig initially got some of its flu from a bird and then co-mixed that with the human form to produce this hybrid, which is why you can find elements of all three.

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[njsa]

Why is it that some people are utterly ignorant yet arrogant. Swine flu is a mutant strain of influenza A. This virus was originally found in birds, then jumped around from birds to humans to pigs and all over the place. The current 'swine flu' is only one such jump. Pigs are an intermediate host for the virus, which copies it's host DNA and evolves rapidly.The H1N1 is recombining and evolving as we speak, pretty soon it will look nothing like the original H1N1.

Note the complete history of swine flu:

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i dont know from where u guys r fabricating some proof in favour of you in all the cases.maybe your reference was made by a pork promoter in order to sell his meat.

 

[Mononoke]

i dont know from where u guys r fabricating some proof in favour of you in all the cases.maybe your reference was made by a pork promoter in order to sell his meat.

Admit it you didn't know the whole picture. If you don't beleive me check the OP about the genetic make up of swine flu, it's part human. And I dare you to find evidence to the contrary. Oh and heating pork doesn't give you swine flu

P.S:

Quarn is the only book on the face of earth which is pin pointing on the root cause not on the intermediary.

The Kuran got this one wrong

 

[I love Srilanka]

Why is it that some people are utterly ignorant yet arrogant. Swine flu is a mutant strain of influenza A. This virus was originally found in birds, then jumped around from birds to humans to pigs and all over the place. The current 'swine flu' is only one such jump. Pigs are an intermediate host for the virus, which copies it's host DNA and evolves rapidly.The H1N1 is recombining and evolving as we speak, pretty soon it will look nothing like the original H1N1.

Note the complete history of swine flu:

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Hello Monononke,
What happened to my source wikipedia..this time you dont accept wikipedia? dear njsa you are correct.there are lot of things available in website, but mr.monononke always select the website which support his comment to prove his concept.
Mr.Mono, when u are going to change the name from swine flu to bird flu..
please change your attitude,there are many on the web , out of which some are fake website, dont always base the same...

 

[Mononoke]

Hello Monononke,
What happened to my source wikipedia..this time you dont accept wikipedia? dear njsa you are correct.there are lot of things available in website, but mr.monononke always select the website which support his comment to prove his concept.
Mr.Mono, when u are going to change the name from swine flu to bird flu..
please change your attitude,there are many on the web , out of which some are fake website, dont always base the same...

From your wiki

Swine influenza (also called swine flu, hog flu, pig flu and sometimes, the swine) is an infection by any one of several types of swine influenza virus. Swine influenza virus (SIV) is any strain of the influenza family of viruses that is endemic in pigs.[2] As of 2009, the known SIV strains include influenza C and the subtypes of influenza A known as H1N1, H1N2, H3N1, H3N2, and H2N3.

Evolution

See also: Punctuated equilibrium
Taubenberger says:
"All influenza A pandemics since [the Spanish flu pandemic], and indeed almost all cases of influenza A worldwide (excepting human infections from avian viruses such as H5N1 and H7N7), have been caused by descendants of the 1918 virus, including "drifted" H1N1 viruses and reassorted H2N2 and H3N2 viruses.

Influenzavirus A is a genus of the Orthomyxoviridae family of viruses. Influenzavirus A includes only one species: Influenza A virus which causes influenza in birds and some mammals. Strains of all subtypes of influenza A virus have been isolated from wild birds, although disease is uncommon.

On October 5, 2005, researchers at the Mount Sinai School of Medicine in New York announced that the genetic sequence of the 1918 flu strain, a subtype of avian strain H1N1, had been reconstructed using historic tissue samples.[

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigenic_shift

I suggest you read the your own stuff before you make bogus claims.
And don't buy too much into nomenclature, the higgs boson is called 'god particle' not because it comes from god, neither is dark matter 'dark'. I used those articles because the wiki response requires to me tie couple of articles together. This was more convenient.

And your wiki article cites my source, the 'new scientist' twice.

1. ^ "Pork industry is blurring the science of swine flu - Short Sharp Science". New Scientist. http://www.newscientist.com/blogs/shortsharpscience/2009/04/why-the-pork-industry-hates-th.html. Retrieved 2009-05-07.
2. ^ "Swine flu: The predictable pandemic? - 29 April 2009". New Scientist. http://www.newscientist.com/article/mg20227063.800-swine-flu-the-predictable-pandemic.html?full=true. Retrieved 2009-05-07.

But my challenge is simple prove to me that 1) H1N1 is not a mutant strain of Influenza A (2) Swine flu is not a melting pot of human, bird and pig DNA, it comes directly from the pig (3) H1N1 doesn't evolve rapidly feeding off of it's host genetic material.

 

[I love Srilanka]

From your wiki

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antigenic_shift

I suggest you read the your own stuff before you make bogus claims.
And don't buy too much into nomenclature, the higgs boson is called 'god particle' not because it comes from god, neither is dark matter 'dark'. I used those articles because the wiki response requires to me tie couple of articles together. This was more convenient.

And your wiki article cites my source, the 'new scientist' twice.
But my challenge is simple prove to me that 1) H1N1 is not a mutant strain of Influenza A (2) Swine flu is not a melting pot of human, bird and pig DNA, it comes directly from the pig (3) H1N1 doesn't evolve rapidly feeding off of it's host genetic material.

see i dont want to argue with u more even wiki's 1st paragraph is enough to prove you H1N1 is started from pig

Swine influenza (also called swine flu, hog flu, pig flu and sometimes, the swine) is an infection by any one of several types of swine influenza virus. Swine influenza virus (SIV) is any strain of the influenza family of viruses that is endemic in pigs.[2] As of 2009, the known SIV strains include influenza C and the subtypes of influenza A known as H1N1, H1N2, H3N1, H3N2, and H2N3.
Swine influenza virus is common throughout pig populations worldwide. Transmission of the virus from pigs to humans is not common and does not always lead to human influenza, often resulting only in the production of antibodies in the blood. If transmission does cause human influenza, it is called zoonotic swine flu. People with regular exposure to pigs are at increased risk of swine flu infection. The meat of an infected animal poses no risk of infection when properly cooked.

Now what is your conclusion? aren't pigs related H1N1??

Swine influenza is endemic in pigs

 

[Mononoke]

wiki's 1st paragraph is enough to prove you H1N1 is started from pig

Influenza A (H1N1) virus is a subtype of influenzavirus A and the most common cause of influenza (flu) in humans. Some strains of H1N1 are endemic in humans and cause a small fraction of all influenza-like illness and a large fraction of all seasonal influenza. H1N1 strains caused roughly half of all human flu infections in 2006.[1] Other strains of H1N1 are endemic in pigs (swine influenza) and in birds (avian influenza).

Show me. You've lost your silly argument, H1N1 is a subtype of Influenza A which was originally found in wild birds. You cannot deny that.

Now what is your conclusion? aren't pigs related H1N1??

of course they are, but so are humans and birds. How is it the pigs fault, when it is an intermediary?

 

[I love Srilanka]

Swine influenza virus is common throughout pig populations worldwide.People with regular exposure to pigs are at increased risk of swine flu infection.

Show me. You've lost your silly argument, H1N1 is a subtype of Influenza A which was originally found in pigs. You cannot deny that.

Now what is your conclusion? aren't pigs related H1N1??

of course they are not, but pigs. How is it the birds,human fault, when it is an intermediary?

 

[Wal Bada]

See your data is baseless, H1N1 even can spread from human to human,it even would have spread due to movement of people. for instance I know in saudi H1N1 1st confirmed from a visitor, in kuwait 1st it was confirmed in US army base and etc.its all about western countries root cause for this disease.

NOW I NEED YOU TO GIVE ME A CHART IN HOW MANY MUSLIM COUNTRIES H1N1 STARTED FROM PIGS and THEY WERE ROOT CAUSE FOR THIS DISEASE AND HOW MANY CASE???? This is the only question is relevant here.

The first case in SL was a visitor to Australia. Despite pork eating population in SL, why we are relatively saved by the disease?

 

[Wal Bada]

i dont know from where u guys r fabricating some proof in favour of you in all the cases.maybe your reference was made by a pork promoter in order to sell his meat.

Swine flu does not transmit from pork if properly cooked.

 

[Mononoke]

of course they are not, but pigs. How is it the birds,human fault, when it is an intermediary?

When did I accuse humans of being at more fault than pigs? You guys started this thread about how pigs are responsible for swine flu, I merely pointed out that Pig are only an intermediary in a long line of hosts. Therefore, how is the pig to blame.

 

[sirajstc]

A 16-year-old Sri Lankan boy has become the first person in the country to die of swine flu, doctors said on Sunday.

The victim, son of two doctors in Kandy, died on Wednesday night at Kandy Teaching Hospital, they said.

Meanwhile, the Medical Research Institute has confirmed that the death was caused by A(H1N1), the officials who declined to be identified said, the Sunday Times reported.

This was the first reported death in Sri Lanka of the global pandemic flu which was detected in the country in June, senior health officials have confirmed.

They, however, said that there is no cause for alarm and asked the people not to panic.

"This boy had other complications including spinal and lung problems which could have aggravated the illness and placed him in a high-risk category," the newspaper quoted an official as saying.

Health authorities have advised people to go to the nearest hospital if anyone has a persistent fever for more than two days and flu-like symptoms.

While most hospitals have geared up to handle flu cases, a few have consultants who have been issued anti-viral drugs to deal with such cases, an official said.

Up to October 15, more than 115 flu-affected people had been detected through the airport surveillance mechanism, the newspaper report said.


indiatoday


Sri Lanka's Epidemiology Unit of the Health Ministry today confirmed that the death of 16-year old boy in Kandy was due to the complications from the Influenza A-H1N1 commonly known as Swine Flu.

This is the first death reported in Sri Lanka due to the H1N1 since the first H1N1 flu case was reported on June 16. Over 100 patients have been detected with the flu since then.

According to the Chief Epidemiologist Dr. Paba Palihawadana, the child, whose both parents were doctors had an underlying chronic chest problem when he contracted the H1N1flu virus.

Education authorities closed 14 schools in the Kurunegala town indefinitely from Friday (06) after three children were found to be carrying the AH1N1 virus.

The Epidemiology Unit has set up sentinel units in twenty hospitals around the country with specially trained personnel to treat persons found to be positive with H1N1. The anti viral agent oseltamivir to treat the severe H1N1 cases is available only in sentinel hospitals.

colombopage

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

ALLAH knew about swine flue? is that what you want to say? then I can give a list allah didnt know..what a fool!
what about CJD?
what Bird Flue?
pathetic liers...

 

[hafizsaad]

ALLAH knew about swine flue? is that what you want to say? then I can give a list allah didnt know..what a fool!
what about CJD?
what Bird Flue?
pathetic liers...

you require and need only a mental hospital....