ශුන්‍යතා දහම

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මෙහි අඩංගු කිසිවක් ධර්මතාවට අදාල නොවන නිසා පමණක් යමක් කියන එක යුතුකමක් සේ සලකනවා

සිදුවීමට නියමිත නැති දෙයක්, ඔබ කොතරම් උත්සාහ කළත් සිදු නොවනු ඇත. සිදුවීමට නියමිත දෙයක්, ඔබ එය වැළැක්වීමට කොතරම් උත්සාහ කළත් සිදු වනු ඇත. මෙය ස්ථිරය. එම නිසා, හොඳම මඟ වන්නේ නිහඬව අභ්‍යන්තරව සිටීමයි.

මෙය හින්දුන් විසින් අතීතයේදී නිශේදනය කරන ලද්දක්. ආකින්සන්ඥායතනය තුල උපන් කර්මශක්තිය භවුතික වත් අද්‍යත්මිකවත් අවශ්‍ය පරිදි වෙනස්කරගත හැකි බව දුටු ඍෂිවරු පොදු ජනයාට කර්මය වෙනස් කර ගැනීමේ හැකියාව ජ්‍යෝතිෂ්‍ය නමින් ලබා දුන්නා. උපන් කර්ම විභංගය කේන්ද්‍රය තුලින් දැන එය කැමති පරිදි ඕනෑම කෙනෙකුට වෙනස්කර ගත හැක.

 

[Emios]

මෙහි අඩංගු කිසිවක් ධර්මතාවට අදාල නොවන නිසා පමණක් යමක් කියන එක යුතුකමක් සේ සලකනවා

මෙය හින්දුන් විසින් අතීතයේදී නිශේදනය කරන ලද්දක්. ආකින්සන්ඥායතනය තුල උපන් කර්මශක්තිය භවුතික වත් අද්‍යත්මිකවත් අවශ්‍ය පරිදි වෙනස්කරගත හැකි බව දුටු ඍෂිවරු පොදු ජනයාට කර්මය වෙනස් කර ගැනීමේ හැකියාව ජ්‍යෝතිෂ්‍ය නමින් ලබා දුන්නා. උපන් කර්ම විභංගය කේන්ද්‍රය තුලින් දැන එය කැමති පරිදි ඕනෑම කෙනෙකුට වෙනස්කර ගත හැක.

අහසේ තිබෙන තාරකාවන්ට කුමක් කළ හැකිද budun pewasuwe ai?

 

[lankalk]

අහසේ තිබෙන තාරකාවන්ට කුමක් කළ හැකිද budun pewasuwe ai?

බුදුන් කිවුව කියල ඔබ කියන දේ මට අදාළ නෑ. මම කියන කෙනා දැකපු බුදුන් ඕව කියල නෑ .

 

[Emios]

බුදුන් කිවුව කියල ඔබ කියන දේ මට අදාළ නෑ. මම කියන කෙනා දැකපු බුදුන් ඕව කියල නෑ .

Oya wenas karanna puluwan Kiyana ekath vinayane rewatimak taman karapu deken wenas una widiyata mawala pennanawa

 

[lankalk]

Oya wenas karanna puluwan Kiyana ekath vinayane rewatimak taman karapu deken wenas una widiyata mawala pennanawa

ඔබ දුක් විඳින ප්රුතක්ජනයෙක්.

 

[Emios]

ඔබ දුක් විඳින ප්රුතක්ජනයෙක්.

Awulak ne

 

[nuwan9999]

if it is absolute, it should be seen as the same from any reference frame of observed. There is no such thing from my understanding.

I think there is, but it’s not a thing, as I said, its is defined by its nature.
Imagine a kind of nature that contains following 3 characteristics:

1. All defined by cause and effect: A thing or object is an effect of some causes and those things can be causes for other things. Nothing is fixed, if a thing is observed, it is happening in the current moment as the causes getting matched together, furthermore the observer is also a cause. Meaning, there is no Rosh, its Roshing, there is no Nipun, its Nipuning, there is no Elakiri, its Elakiring…
2. Things appear to fulfil a shortage: A thing will appear or begin to exist if there is a matching void to fill. Void happens due to an expectation, expectation happens due to a misunderstanding. This expectation and misunderstanding are recursive feeding cycle and continuously grow as experience evolve.
3. Nothing is unique: Nothing is separated, everything is one (including expectation and misunderstanding) but they appear as separated because of above.

Can you think of any level below this and anything that cannot be explained by these 3 characteristics? If someone says Theory of Everything - this is it IMHO. This is very high level, imagine how far we can take this with different applications. Also covers anything physical and non-physical (භෞතිකය සහ අභෞතිකය) - there isn't such things but figurative speaking...


CFYI: @nipund @Blair Solari

yeah, T20s
------ Post added on Jul 29, 2026 at 2:14 AM

Nice

 

[ek_rosh]

I think there is, but it’s not a thing, as I said, its is defined by its nature.
Imagine a kind of nature that contains following 3 characteristics:

1. All defined by cause and effect: A thing or object is an effect of some causes and those things can be causes for other things. Nothing is fixed, if a thing is observed, it is happening in the current moment as the causes getting matched together, furthermore the observer is also a cause. Meaning, there is no Rosh, its Roshing, there is no Nipun, its Nipuning, there is no Elakiri, its Elakiring…
2. Things appear to fulfil a shortage: A thing will appear or begin to exist if there is a matching void to fill. Void happens due to an expectation, expectation happens due to a misunderstanding. This expectation and misunderstanding are recursive feeding cycle and continuously grow as experience evolve.
3. Nothing is unique: Nothing is separated, everything is one (including expectation and misunderstanding) but they appear as separated because of above.

Can you think of any level below this and anything that cannot be explained by these 3 characteristics? If someone says Theory of Everything - this is it IMHO. This is very high level, imagine how far we can take this with different applications. Also covers anything physical and non-physical (භෞතිකය සහ අභෞතිකය) - there isn't such things but figurative speaking...


CFYI: @nipund @Blair Solari


Nice

i do see bunch of issues here, but mainly these are some high level constructs based on assumptions. the absolute level cant depend on any assumption.

 

[MalSeven]

This is nice one after a while

 

[nipund]

I think there is, but it’s not a thing, as I said, its is defined by its nature.
Imagine a kind of nature that contains following 3 characteristics:

1. All defined by cause and effect: A thing or object is an effect of some causes and those things can be causes for other things. Nothing is fixed, if a thing is observed, it is happening in the current moment as the causes getting matched together, furthermore the observer is also a cause. Meaning, there is no Rosh, its Roshing, there is no Nipun, its Nipuning, there is no Elakiri, its Elakiring…
2. Things appear to fulfil a shortage: A thing will appear or begin to exist if there is a matching void to fill. Void happens due to an expectation, expectation happens due to a misunderstanding. This expectation and misunderstanding are recursive feeding cycle and continuously grow as experience evolve.
3. Nothing is unique: Nothing is separated, everything is one (including expectation and misunderstanding) but they appear as separated because of above.

Can you think of any level below this and anything that cannot be explained by these 3 characteristics? If someone says Theory of Everything - this is it IMHO. This is very high level, imagine how far we can take this with different applications. Also covers anything physical and non-physical (භෞතිකය සහ අභෞතිකය) - there isn't such things but figurative speaking...

Is above your definition on nature?
1. Newtonian physics?
2. Is void always present? Or it is a potential? Is this void= space?
3. Singularity is a experience/ theory that comes with meditation experience. Early Catholic/ Muslim scriptures / Hinduism and sufism talks about this.
IMHO this is due to minds limited by mind
විංඥණය trying to explain/ experience විංඥානය.

3 questions 1 opinion

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I know the thing you are talking about,but here ramana marashi doesn't talk about it.he goes beyond the typical hindu ideology.

All sothapanna are not Buddhist. You might find him drinking wine while smoking Cigar speaking Spanish, we can never judge.
ළගින් යන කතාවක් වෙන්නත් පුළුවන්. හරි වෙන්නත් පුළුවන්. දිගට අහලා බලන්න ඕන
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[nuwan9999]

i do see bunch of issues here, but mainly these are some high level constructs based on assumptions. the absolute level cant depend on any assumption.

High level constructs, Indeed. What are those assumptions?

Is above your definition on nature?
1. Newtonian physics?
2. Is void always present? Or it is a potential? Is this void= space?
3. Singularity is a experience/ theory that comes with meditation experience. Early Catholic/ Muslim scriptures / Hinduism and sufism talks about this.
IMHO this is due to minds limited by mind
විංඥණය trying to explain/ experience විංඥානය.

3 questions 1 opinion

Its not my definition, it is something I came across

1. Nothing to do with any physics but physics can be explained from it (I said theory of everything, didn't I? )
2. No, same apply to void as well, apply the same 3 characteristics and you will find where void comes from
3. Nothing to do with those but they also can be explained from this - give a scenario
Your opinion can also be explained.

 

[Emios]

@nuwan9999 are you talking about this?sorry for the interruption

මහණෙනි, ඒ ආයතනයක් ඇත්තේ ය. යම් තැනක පෘථිවිය නැත, ආපෝ නැත, තේජෝ නැත, වායෝ නැත, ආකාසානඤ්චායතනය නැත, විඤ්ඤාණඤ්චායතනය නැත, ආකිඤ්චඤ්ඤායතනය නැත, නේවසඤ්ඤානාසඤ්ඤායතනය නැත. මේ ලෝකය නැත, පරලෝකය නැත, චන්ද්‍ර සූර්ය දෙදෙනා නැත.

මහණෙනි, එහි මම ආගතියක් කියන්නේ නැත, ගතියක් කියන්නේ නැත, ඨිතියක් කියන්නේ නැත, චුතියක් කියන්නේ නැත, උපපත්තියක් කියන්නේ නැත. එය අප්පතිට්ඨ, අප්පවත්ත, අනාරම්මණ වූ දෙයකි. මෙයම දුක්ඛයේ අවසානයයි.

 

[nuwan9999]

@nuwan9999 are you talking about this?sorry for the interruption

මහණෙනි, ඒ ආයතනයක් ඇත්තේ ය. යම් තැනක පෘථිවිය නැත, ආපෝ නැත, තේජෝ නැත, වායෝ නැත, ආකාසානඤ්චායතනය නැත, විඤ්ඤාණඤ්චායතනය නැත, ආකිඤ්චඤ්ඤායතනය නැත, නේවසඤ්ඤානාසඤ්ඤායතනය නැත. මේ ලෝකය නැත, පරලෝකය නැත, චන්ද්‍ර සූර්ය දෙදෙනා නැත.

මහණෙනි, එහි මම ආගතියක් කියන්නේ නැත, ගතියක් කියන්නේ නැත, ඨිතියක් කියන්නේ නැත, චුතියක් කියන්නේ නැත, උපපත්තියක් කියන්නේ නැත. එය අප්පතිට්ඨ, අප්පවත්ත, අනාරම්මණ වූ දෙයකි. මෙයම දුක්ඛයේ අවසානයයි.

I know where you going with this and NOT FAIR , you picked the only "thing" that cannot be explained by this level . But again, it's nothing to do with things, existence etc.

No issue at all for the interruption.

 

[Emios]

I know where you going with this and NOT FAIR , you picked the only "thing" that cannot be explained by this level . But again, it's nothing to do with things, existence etc.

No issue at all for the interruption.

No no,i wanted to know if this is the thing you pointed out to see,wheher you were explaining characterics of this level

 

[nuwan9999]

No no,i wanted to know if this is the thing you pointed out to see,wheher you were explaining characterics of this level

You might say its the opposite of that level

 

[nipund]

High level constructs, Indeed. What are those assumptions?


Its not my definition, it is something I came across

1. Nothing to do with any physics but physics can be explained from it (I said theory of everything, didn't I? )
2. No, same apply to void as well, apply the same 3 characteristics and you will find where void comes from
3. Nothing to do with those but they also can be explained from this - give a scenario
Your opinion can also be explained

1.cause and effect is very broad concept it's obvious in many observation although people misread it.
Eg
Medication= cure , not true in all cases.
I mentioned Newtonian physics because even science talks about it ,so can't see how it's Theory of everything
හේතුඵල දහම නම් reference එක එකේ හෙතුත් නෑ, පලත් නෑ අන්තිමට.

2. What 3 characteristics ? Anithya anathma dukka? ඉඩක් තියෙන තැනක යමක් තියනවා නෙමේ, යමක් තියෙන තැනක ඉඩක් තියෙනවා.
So true void never exist.
3. How does your concept of nothing is unique different from concept of singularity?

Your wording suggest same definition

 

[Emios]

You might say its the opposite of that level

Hmm You mean like a reflection of this level?

 

[nuwan9999]

1.cause and effect is very broad concept it's obvious in many observation although people misread it.
Eg
Medication= cure , not true in all cases.
I mentioned Newtonian physics because even science talks about it ,so can't see how it's Theory of everything
හේතුඵල දහම නම් reference එක එකේ හෙතුත් නෑ, පලත් නෑ අන්තිමට.

Don’t think you are taking this correctly, how Medication= cure? Medication is not the only cause of cure, right?
Newtonian physics is also a level based on some conventions, isn’t it?

2. What 3 characteristics ? Anithya anathma dukka? ඉඩක් තියෙන තැනක යමක් තියනවා නෙමේ, යමක් තියෙන තැනක ඉඩක් තියෙනවා.
So true void never exist.

එහෙම කියන්න බැහැ නේද? ඉඩත්, යමත් වෙන වෙනම පවතින්න බැහැ IMHO

3. How does your concept of nothing is unique different from concept of singularity?

Your wording suggest same definition

Define singularity, then we can see if its same or not

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Hmm You mean like a reflection of this level?

Its opposite, but yes if you mean that as reflection.
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[Blair Solari]

උපන් කර්ම විභංගය කේන්ද්‍රය තුලින් දැන එය කැමති පරිදි ඕනෑම කෙනෙකුට වෙනස්කර ගත හැක.

ශනි අෂ්ඨම ඒරාෂ්ටක sth වලට මොනවද කරන්න පුලුවන්?

 

[lankalk]

ශනි අෂ්ඨම ඒරාෂ්ටක sth වලට මොනවද කරන්න පුලුවන්?

ශනි ඉන්නේ කීවෙනි භාවයේද ? මොන රාශියේද ?
චන්ද්‍රයා ඉන්නේ කීවෙනි භාවයේද ? මොන රාශියේද ?හරියටම කියන්න මේ ටික අවශ්‍යයි.
එර් = චන්ද්‍රයා අෂ්ටක = 8 , ඒර්අෂ්ටක යනු චන්ද්‍රයාගෙන් 8 ශනි යන්නයි.