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    coolioWiZ said:
    I appreciate your sense of humor . . .it's one of your strong points :P



    It's the same as what i was trying to point out in my take about the media . . so i agree with u on these points.



    the answer is no. i can't do anything if u also want to associate yourself with the type of ppl i describe. u simply don't fall to it coz what u'r doing is a constructive criticizm about emo culture. and your take on emos are different, not a useless supression based on nothing. I'm talking about ppl who supress emos (for matter any alternative culture) with no clear basis, what motivates them is the fear and the alienness they feel when they eccounter a thing like this.

    Ok I'll do another take on media (this time a novel) Dan Brown's da Vinchi Code disses about a cult, opus dei . .he portrays it as a evil cult which is bent on destryoing the "holy grail" (he means something other than a cup as holy grail here) wut happened after this book, ppl became afraid about the real opus dei. . sure opus dei is an extreme cult, but the misinformation had a deadly effect on them. whatever their purpose was the negative publicity in forms of defectors, protestors and fuckalots had it's toll.



    lol emos attacking themselves is just the media streotyping about emos, it's what they want to show out as an emo . . .u can blame the media for imprinting this idea that instead of resisting they might kill themselves. there are cases of emos doing mass protests too . .against mistreatment and not being accepted by the society for what they are. i think i pointed out to u an aritcle about emos and punks picking a fight in mexico some months earlier.



    lol it's the mentality u need to avoid, u'r becoming a pawn of media. it's they who want to show out that making fun is what they deserve, but not tolerance. It's not totally self amusement, but u need to understand that these ppl led a different life, it's ok to be sarcastic about emos, but not to ridicule.

    u know if a person is weak, it's easy to kick him in the butt and it's always the weak who gets suppressed, an emo intentionally portrays a weakness, this makes ppl think "oh so exploitable" and attack them and make fun of their exisitance.




    the right to choose for u'rself is a thing i agree on, and saying an emo commits suicide just coz of bullying is just a part of the emo stereotype not the real thing. . .and mind u i told u earlier that being emo means nothing like an ultimate suicide pact.




    I'm not generalizing every software engineer out there, coz i've been in the scene atleast at an academic level, i know how it's a pain in the ass to keep up with project groups and develop software. That said, this IT guy is an abstract case i used to point out that a guy with a "life" will think nothing else but his life. and he will be confined by the mentality he was bought up, will not try to think or appreciate the others. not all, but have to say most ppl sadly can't think outta their box, they live in their own deep wells and the life they knows is only what they see in their surrounding.


    It's punk which led into emo . . .u can see that the dresscode and the lyrics are just a modification of punk.. . i took the alternative tag coz anything not soft rock tends to be put under alternative these days.





    agreed, a person who might have been abused as a child can become an abuser himself, but think there is a different path too. . .this child can turn his pain and self despair in to something useful, he may become an activitist, an artist or novelist. . .it's the positive side, u'll have to agree there are ppl who do that. Not all becomes abusers, actually the abusers are very less . . the fact is the media publicity they get. and for a case the activitists are also less, most will just carry on silently.

    oh dear ..not today :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     

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    twisted said:
    admit what lol im yet to read it lol and admit???? never lol give me sometime lol im too bored and as you might already have figured out my mind is in pieces now :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    lol then take your time . . .i'm also all crazy posting too long nothing :rofl:
     

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    coolioWiZ said:
    I think you are illusioned or misguided about the origins of freemasonry and their beliefs. Actually in freemasonry there is no god at all . . .u are free to believe in your own god. (what it states is that u need to believe in a supreme being) and this is no religion at all. So a christian a buddhist a jew an islamist can join freemasonry while respecting their own religions and can adhere with the concepts of the freemasons. So about trying to attach to god sexually has no point in freemasonry. Coz religion is sepreate and there is no one called "freemason god"

    Freemasonry is a code of living, considering with the other subcultures this is quite conservative, coz it states you have to respect the natural and civil order. U can't rebel against your country, u can't go against your religion, if u can respect the world and accept it for what it is then u can join it. The govenring system is just like guilds . . .hmm similar to churches expect they don't do things like masses. u can find something similar to wiccan covens in freemasonry governing bodies. (wicca and satanism are different)


    i'll reply as soon as possible ! I'm out for lunch :)
     

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    coolioWiZ said:
    lol then take your time . . .i'm also all crazy posting too long nothing :rofl:
    look lol i dont see where exactly you are contradicting my points (except for these lil lines and phrases where both of us seemed to over analys in that way this is never going to end)so lets make this straight and easy reading i dont care what those pathetic scene kids are going through and if they have a problem with that they can suck my dick and da vinci code? sheer mainstream crap i don't even understand why ppl read those crap
    and we can't say how exactly ppl will behave or react in given occations like emos can be defensive and aggresive against stereotypes that's a lil bit more chaotic don't you think
    and if your next resource of contradicting is going to be me calling da vinci code mainstream crap that's what i said about over analyzing ..
    everyones entitled to their opinions and you have yours while i have mine and your and mine don't have to be the same yet we both can be right ..so all we did so far was sharing opinions other than prooving ourselves correct ..
    and may be you have noticed that perfect examples don't exist..so that's it about you or i pointing out to past incidents and one of us trying to disagree or even trying to prove its irrelevance so here i took the first step towards the compromise please be supportive ...or fuck off :rofl::rofl::rofl:
     
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    look lol i dont see where exactly you are contradicting my points (except for these lil lines and phrases where both of us seemed to over analys in that way this is never going to end)so lets make this straight and easy reading i dont care what those pathetic scene kids are going through and if they have a problem with that they can suck my dick and da vinci code? sheer mainstream crap i don't even understand why ppl read those crap
    and we can't say how exactly ppl will behave or react in given occations like emos can be defensive and aggresive against stereotypes that's a lil bit more chaotic don't you think
    and if your next resource of contradicting is going to be me calling da vinci code mainstream crap that's what i said about over analyzing ..
    everyones entitled to their opinions and you have yours while i have mine and your and mine don't have to be the same yet we both can be right ..so all we did so far was sharing opinions other than prooving ourselves correct ..
    and may be you have noticed that perfect examples don't exist..so that's it about you or i pointing out to past incidents and one of us trying to disagree or even trying to prove its irrelevance so here i took the first step towards the compromise please be supportive ...or fuck off :rofl::rofl::rofl:

    since i agree with all what u wrote here, i'll say let's say quits. compromise done :) :P
     

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