Interesting interview by Ralipanawe Pannyasiri Himi about muslims...

[daddyimmo]

Not Enough!

Yes! You are correct!
As far as I can see this is the only way to see whether they'll be reborn again, any other ideas?
According to Buddhism, as long as you create the cause the effect will be there, you don't think so? Why?

“You are correct!” That’s all? No any other ideas? However I don’t think it’s true as you say “As far as I can see this is the only way to see whether they'll be reborn again” without a proof of evidence!

Yes many people do speak about heaven and hell according to Buddhism, but personally I can't guarantee you that there is such a thing, in fact there's no way for me or any other person to know it does exists or not! These are the things that remain to be unknown and even in Buddhism people are advised not to waste time thinking about things that you can't really conceive as a human instead focus on what you can do as a mortal and live a good life and gain all those pre-requisites to achieve Nirvana, as a human that's the best thing you can do... what possible gain one has even if they knew there's hell or heaven? Because according to Buddhism everything has an ending... including hell and heaven!!!

If Lord Buddha taught about hell and heaven in which not to focus on that as because there is no evidence that there is hell and heaven! But how does he know that there is an ending for hell and heaven?

 

[daddyimmo]

May B U Were Waitin!

First you should define what knowledge is... in science knowledge is based on facts & figures, I don't know how you can classify "divine knowledge"; maybe you can help me figure out! In science facts and figures considered reliable and accurate, how about divine issues? How do we know they are reliable and accurate?

If so I ask again, why do Muslims still believe in science at all?

Divine knowledge is the knowledge revealed by God! And the funniest thing you are asking “why does Muslims still believe in science?” is of course a foolishness question!
During the 6th century to the 15th century the Islam civilization has contributed to the development of science and education a lot. The knowledge are mostly are divine knowledge! The westerns agree with this and you have learned from them! So I have to ask you why you believe in science! What nonsense is that!

Here the source: http://www.muslimheritage.com/

There is even more to see. Look what Stanislas Guyard has said:

„During the Middle Ages, the history of Mohammadanism (Islam) is the history of civilization itself. Thanks to the Muslims, Greek science and philosophy were rescued from neglect and came to awaken the West and give rise to the great intellectual movement which terminated in the renovation of Bacon… In the seventh century of our era, the Old World was in agony. The Arabian conquests infused into it a new blood… Mohammad gave them (Arabs) the Quran which was the starting point of a new culture“

Why did he have to "divinely reveal"? Why he himself didn't appear and instead of asking another to reveal?

Allah has revealed the Quraan and Angel Gabriel have gifted it to Muhammad (PBUH) on Earth! He would never appear on earth as if the non Muslims don’t believe in the existence of Allah’s signs, Allah’s Angels Allah’s Messengers, Allah’s books, The day of resurrection and hereafter! How would the non Muslims believe then there is one true god i.e. Allah?

So have they found out about proof of God’s existence which Islam is 100% based on? That was my question!

Yes Brother! Even I do! Otherwise you think they are forced by Muslims? Or they are foolish? Look in today’s’ world we can see the fastest spreading religion is Islam! Even during in the 1934 to 1984 about 235% has increased in Islam and Christianity had increased only by 47% according to the statistics from the article in Reader’s Digest ‘Almanac’, year book 1986!

But we have seen cases where innocent people were toured (like Sri Lankan maids) by the Arabs and gotten away with it! So how come? Because it is divine law that prevails in those countries! So if divine law fails who will be there to take responsibility? By right the creator of the law... which means in GOD right? Well... so far I haven't seen!!

There are Muslims and Non Muslims! But everyone has some weaknesses! So for the Muslims sometimes they don’t follow their religion properly like some I have seen they are drinking, smoking and gambling which is forbidden by Allah! So as just a Muslim person who commits a wrong you can’t say it that’s Islam religion taught them unless you judge into Islam alone!

There something called the Al-Kaba'r which means the major sins forbidden by Allah! So associating anything with Allah is forbidden unless Allah has told!

“Surely, Allah does not forgive that a partner is ascribed to Him, and forgives anything short of that for whomsoever He wills. Whoever ascribes a partner to Allah has indeed gone far astray.” {Surah An-Nisa, V 4:116}

The maids who have been beaten by those Bedouins are sinners! And you know in that country the maids can inquire the embassy there about the sufferings and that they will take action against them!

 

[romero2005]

niyema answers tikak dila tiyanawa

 

[sri_lion]

“You are correct!” That’s all? No any other ideas? However I don’t think it’s true as you say “As far as I can see this is the only way to see whether they'll be reborn again” without a proof of evidence!

Well.. you got the whole purpose of the comment wrong

I'm asking you here, if you ask me how do I know for sure whether anyone have archieved NIRVANA for sure, I ask you back how could I possibly know they have other than me being there all the while to make sure they will never reborn?

Is there any other suggestions? If "YES" let me know... if "NO" then you know what I mean!

If Lord Buddha taught about hell and heaven in which not to focus on that as because there is no evidence that there is hell and heaven! But how does he know that there is an ending for hell and heaven?

Because the nature of everything is start and end! tell me something that does not follow this!

 

[sri_lion]

Divine knowledge is the knowledge revealed by God! And the funniest thing you are asking “why does Muslims still believe in science?” is of course a foolishness question!
During the 6th century to the 15th century the Islam civilization has contributed to the development of science and education a lot. The knowledge are mostly are divine knowledge! The westerns agree with this and you have learned from them! So I have to ask you why you believe in science! What nonsense is that!

Here the source: http://www.muslimheritage.com/

There is even more to see. Look what Stanislas Guyard has said:

„During the Middle Ages, the history of Mohammadanism (Islam) is the history of civilization itself. Thanks to the Muslims, Greek science and philosophy were rescued from neglect and came to awaken the West and give rise to the great intellectual movement which terminated in the renovation of Bacon… In the seventh century of our era, the Old World was in agony. The Arabian conquests infused into it a new blood… Mohammad gave them (Arabs) the Quran which was the starting point of a new culture“

Dont go off the track... its true that Muslim's may have contributed to science, but is it their own effort or GOD's?

If it is GOD's.. then how do you prove it?

Ok lets say Human is ALLAH's creation and we were able to do marvels with his help and wisdom, then how do you explain people like Albert Einstein, a giant contributor for modern science? So did ALLAH made him as a non-Muslim and gave him the wisdom? why? which means then to get ALLAH's help you does not nessasily have to be a MUSLIM? THINK ABOUT IT!!!

And also what I've asked is, I'll give you a scenario...

Say, you fall from somewhere you broke a bone in your hand... now would you go to mosque and ask divine help? or would you rather go to hospital?

I would like to see your answer to this exact points!!

Allah has revealed the Quraan and Angel Gabriel have gifted it to Muhammad (PBUH) on Earth! He would never appear on earth as if the non Muslims don’t believe in the existence of Allah’s signs, Allah’s Angels Allah’s Messengers, Allah’s books, The day of resurrection and hereafter! How would the non Muslims believe then there is one true god i.e. Allah?

Not convincing bro! Why ALLAH's angels, messenegers, prophets? Why not himself? for example Jesus traveled himself to teach what he knew and gave his very life for their sake, so did lord Buddha..

See.. Muslims like to spread thier religoin (so does others) but they are the only ones who beleieve that ALLAH is out there.. so if he is.. why not he himself appear because if he does it will only make the Muslim community bigger because people will actually see a GOD!!!

So ALLAH does'nt want his diciples to grow?

Yes Brother! Even I do! Otherwise you think they are forced by Muslims? Or they are foolish? Look in today’s’ world we can see the fastest spreading religion is Islam! Even during in the 1934 to 1984 about 235% has increased in Islam and Christianity had increased only by 47% according to the statistics from the article in Reader’s Digest ‘Almanac’, year book 1986!

You just scratch the surface..

Islam may very well be the fastest growing, there are many other factors here too.. like the way Islam is.. I've hardly seen a Muslim convert to other religions because Q'ran does not give you that freedom, and hardly ever hear about Muslims marry a person belong to other faiths...

So the more you claim about Islam's growth the more evident how Islam try to bind the followers only to look into Q'ran

There are Muslims and Non Muslims! But everyone has some weaknesses! So for the Muslims sometimes they don’t follow their religion properly like some I have seen they are drinking, smoking and gambling which is forbidden by Allah! So as just a Muslim person who commits a wrong you can’t say it that’s Islam religion taught them unless you judge into Islam alone!

Does Q'ran prohibits smoking? I dont think so!!!

There something called the Al-Kaba'r which means the major sins forbidden by Allah! So associating anything with Allah is forbidden unless Allah has told!

“Surely, Allah does not forgive that a partner is ascribed to Him, and forgives anything short of that for whomsoever He wills. Whoever ascribes a partner to Allah has indeed gone far astray.” {Surah An-Nisa, V 4:116}

So ALLAH decides which crime should be punished and which ones shouldn't?

So you mean punishment for each and every type of crime is included in Q'ran? in which section? (just tell me I'll check online)

And also WHY SOME CRIMES are not PUNISHABLE? or you dont have that privilege to question GOD?

The maids who have been beaten by those Bedouins are sinners! And you know in that country the maids can inquire the embassy there about the sufferings and that they will take action against them!

Are you sure? Like how they delayed Visa's for Sri Lankan diplomats who wanted to talk about that particular girl who's in death row as we speak? She has given a translator saying that he is a Tamil but at the end that person made a mess of her translation? this is justice?

So in this case it has been consistently failed... in Buddhism it refers to human behavior and blame will be on human themselves... how about in Islam where is the GOD to take the responsibility? Because it is GOD's law after all!!!

 

[savi pabasara]

Prasna walata saba Pilithurakk

 

[yazir94]

I don't think Sinhalese people are blaming Muslims for eating meat, Sinhalese eat meat too so how can they only blame Muslims?

sirawata...

 

[sri_lion]

sirawata...

Ai Sinhala minissu mas kanawa dakala nadda?

 

[daddyimmo]

Lackin!

Well... you got the whole purpose of the comment wrong

I'm asking you here, if you ask me how do I know for sure whether anyone have achieved NIRVANA for sure, I ask you back how could I possibly know they have other than me being there all the while to make sure they will never reborn?

Is there any other suggestions? If "YES" let me know... if "NO" then you know what I mean!

“How could I possibly know they have (other than me) being there all the while to make sure they will never reborn” that’s what you say! But you believe in it! How? It is may be because Buddhism was not corrupted like now, you believe in it? And how are you going to show me? Only way is to say like that? Is that making ones believing is true?

And if you ask me “how do I know for sure whether that god exists?” It’s silly for me to say “how could I possibly know whether god exist unless I must be there in heaven?” so brother the way you say, that’s not a way of making one sure that they have achieved nirvana!

Because the nature of everything is start and end! Tell me something that does not follow this!

Because the nature has a start and an end! The hereafter means the heaven and hell also has an ending? How? And I have asked did the lord Buddha have preached about it! And how does lord Buddha alone knew it? Did Lord Buddha tell that the heaven and hell has an ending?

In earth every living thing has an ending! But in the hereafter we believe the heaven and hell is a permanent destination!

 

[vishva8kumara]

Well Hope Sinhala People will Stop Blaming Us i mean Msulims 4 eating Meat....

Read This Carefully And Think Thrice...

then Reply...........

Machan Buddhists don't blame Muslims for eating meat.

Abstaining from Beef has NOTHING TO DO WITH BUDDHISM. It is about Sinhala Tradition. According to Sinhala tradition, we do not eat Beef...

In Buddhism there is no speciality for what meat to eat and what is not to eat. You may eat whatever good for you!

It was Anagaarika Dharmapaala tuma who campaigned against Beef eating that associated abstaining from Beef to Buddhism...

 

[olympic]

honda pahadili kireemak

 

[savi pabasara]

honda pahadili kireemak

Bohoma pin

see this link....
http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=103546

 

[daddyimmo]

OK! 1

Don’t go off the track... its true that Muslims’

may have contributed to science, but is it their own effort or God’s?
If it is God’s... then how do you prove it?

Look not only Islam civilization has contributes to modern science also other civilizations

Allah has only revealed the Quraan and in the Quraan there are verses which was support for the Muslims which they did experiments on it! As an example in the Surah Ar-Ra’d stated:

“And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers: and fruit of every kind He made in pairs, two and two: He draweth the night as a veil o'er the Day. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider! And in the earth are tracts (diverse though) neighboring, and gardens of vines and fields sown with corn, and palm trees - growing out of single roots or otherwise: watered with the same water, yet some of them We make more excellent than others to eat. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who understand!” (13:3-4)

So base on this Surah, Al-Khwārizmī has work on his book of the appearance of the Earth" or "The image of the Earth" in 833 which was considered as geography! And you know Columbus wondered by evaluating this book and said that if this book says that the earth is a shape of a spherical, then traveling from the west to the east there should be a path or a road to reach each side! And so that is how he traveled and found America in 1942. Even more Muslims were involved in this subject!

Al-Khwārizmī has not only contribute to geography but to many

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_M%C5%ABs%C4%81_al-Khw%C4%81rizm%C4%AB
Even more Muslims in history have contributed by their own effort!

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=The+Golden+Islam&ns0=1

Ok lets say Human is Allah’s creation and we were able to do marvels

with his help and wisdom, then how do you explain people like Albert Einstein, a giant contributor for modern science? So did ALLAH made him as a non-Muslim and gave him the wisdom? Why? Which means then to get Allah’s help you do not necessarily have to be a MUSLIM? THINK ABOUT IT!!!

What help? Look Allah has already given the guidance by the revelation of his message which is the Quraan! Only thing you don’t accept! That’s normal to you!

There is nothing to think about! You are thinking that I’m a narrow-minded! What about this fellow, what about that fellow are the questions you are asking! For what?

Look whether it is Albert or whoever we are all human beings and Allah has given humankind the will and the ability to think! And among us there can be different viewers! So there will be people who will disprove the Quraan and there will be people who will believe in it! There can be great scientists who are Muslims and non Muslims! There are twins born conjoint! There are children who are born abnormal and normal!

So Allah has created the human being not in way who are born Muslims are the best and not in a way who is born non Muslims are the worse! Once again Allah has given the humankind the will! So there will be different people having different choice!

If Allah has made Albert Einstein as a non-Muslim and a great scientist, it does not mean that he will not be taken to judgment also whether a person is a Muslim! As Allah has given the will to humankind and so Albert Einstein, he will be judge for his deeds in earth for the hereafter which he will be deserve heaven or fire. May peace be upon Albert Einstein!

Look for those were born abnormal Allah is most forgiver! But who have the knowledge and still disprove Allah deserve them punishment
This earth is a test for the hereafter!

Allah forgives who only follow the guidance of Allah and deserve punishment to those who rejects and disbelieve!

And also what I've asked is, I'll give you a scenario...

Say, you fall from somewhere you broke a bone in your hand... now would you go to mosque and ask divine help? Or would you rather go to hospital?
I would like to see your answer to this exact point!!

You think that a person who has belief in god will always ask for divine help? Which concept is that?

I know the way you are thinking! If I asked divine help you think it will be cured? Silly! I would take care myself! Look in this earth Allah has given us the physical and non physical feelings! So if we fall somewhere we will be hurt! Likewise if we use our mind to the wrong path we will be doing wrong things! That is something normal brother! So we need only to be careful, though it is not easy!

Not convincing bro! Why Allah’s angels, messengers, prophets? Why not himself? For example Jesus traveled himself to teach what he knew and gave his very life for their sake, so did lord Buddha...

You believe that there is god only if you see him! But if God send a messenger to the people and if god sends a message to the people, you won’t believe!
Now it is clear for me how you see at Islam! And it is clear for me why you don’t believe! I’m not trying to convince you and won’t convince you! It’s not my duty As Allah said in the Quraan:

“Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.”

We believe Jesus (Isa) PBUH as one of the prophets of Allah before Muhammad (PBUH) and he also gave the same message of Allah like Muhammad (PBUH) as it is there in the Quraan stated:

“We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Jacob, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms.” (4:163)

Allah revealed to Jesus (Isa) PBUH the (inspiration) message which is called the Injiil (Gospel). Allah revealed to Moses (Musa) PBUH the (inspiration) message which is called the Tawraat (Torah). Allah revealed to David (Dawud) PBUH the (inspiration) message which is called the Psalms (Zabur) and which the statement in the Quraan Allah revealed it to Muhammad (PBUH)

See...

Muslims like to spread their religion (so does others) but they are the only ones who believe that ALLAH is out there... so if he is... why not he himself appear because if he does it will only make the Muslim community bigger because people will actually see a GOD!!!

So ALLAH doesn’t want his disciples to grow?

A disciple means the one who follow! Allah does want all his mankind to follow his guidance! So if you are telling why he doesn’t appear, as I have mentioned it before, if the people don’t believe in the existence of Allah’s signs, Allah’s Angels, Allah’s Messengers, Allah’s books, The day of resurrection and hereafter! How would the people believe then there is one true god i.e. Allah when he appears? After appearing will the people then remove their previous belief, regret and follow Allah’s guidance! Then I have to ask how you will or in which reason you will remove the belief in Buddhism you have?
Allah will not appear! And I know according to Buddhism you will completely ignore it!

And if you are telling that if god appears people will follow him! Then why still some convert to Islam and did they ever want to see god just like you ask?
Allah has revealed the message as stated in the Quraan

“Those who do not know say: .Why is it that Allah does not speak to us, nor does a sign come to us? So spoke those before them as these people do. Their hearts resemble each other. We have indeed made the signs clear for the people who have certitude.Surely, We have sent you with the truth, as a bearer of good tidings, and a warner, and you will not be asked about the people of Hell.” (2:118)

But I don know why you’ll won’t believe what Muhammad (PBUH) has told, the revelation of the Quraan which is the message of Allah! I have to ask you that! Please reply me that!

We believe that there is god not just for the sake! We believe as Allah has revealed the message and all the prophets of Islam has spread the message of Allah and proved it! But some ignored it and still some disprove! How much you see and how much you hear you won’t believe as in the Quraan Allah asks and says:

“And who believe in what has been revealed to you and what has been revealed before you; and they have faith in the Hereafter.” (2:4)

“Surely for those who have disbelieved, it is all the same whether you warn them or you warn them not: they do not believe. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing; and on their eyes there is a covering, and for them awaits a mighty punishment.” (2:6-7}

It will not make any difference to such people whether you warn them or not, they will not believe. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing and on their eyes is a veil. It is not because Allah has set a seal on their hearts that these non-Muslims do not understand and believe, but it is the vice-versa. It is because these non-Muslims are bent on rejecting the truth and whether you warn them or not they will not believe.

You just scratch the surface...

Islam may very well be the fastest growing, there are many other factors here too... like the way Islam is... I've hardly seen a Muslim convert to other religions because Q'ran does not give you that freedom, and hardly ever hear about Muslims marry a person belong to other faiths...

don’t expect Islam to be a philosophy!

According to Islam we believe that there is no any other god or greater than god and only one true god i.e. Allah, The Almighty, The All-Wise.
You say the Quraan does not give the freedom to choose! Why? The Quraan is the message of Allah and it is the guidance to those who fear for Allah! As in the Quraan states:

“This Book has no doubt in it - guidance for the God-fearing” (V 2:2)

So it doesn’t mean that we can’t have the choice to convert! It is Muslims fear for Allah for not going astray. So it is wrong to say that there is no freedom of choice! Allah has given humankind the will, so we have the choices! So a Muslim who converts from Islam to another means only he rejects Allah and his messengers! This means he has gone astray of Allah and he is taken into account of punishment in the hereafter! And it is not for only the Muslims! It also for those who rejects the beliefs of Allah for all humankind!

“Those who disbelieve after having accepted Faith and then increase in disbelief, their repentance shall never be accepted. They are the ones who have lost the right path.” (V 2:27)

“As for those who reject Faith and give the lie to Our Signs, they shall be companions of the Fire; they shall abide therein.” (V 2:39)

 

[daddyimmo]

OK! 2

So the more you

claim about Islam's growth the more evident how Islam tries to bind the followers only to look into Q'ran

The more the people look at the Quraan which means they have read the message of Allah! The Al Quraan is the message of Allah! Otherwise from where will the people receive the message of Allah then? From the Muslims? Or from the sky?

If Allah wants to guide us he should reveal a message! And the Al Quraan is the message of Allah! But some disprove it! So it’s what and how they see in!
Also the Life of prophet Muhammad (PBUH) is one of the examples a person can look in to know about Allah! That’s in the Hadith!

Does

Q'ran prohibit smoking? I don’t think so!!!

You don’t think so? Then I have to ask why! Look Allah recommends us cleanses! Allah has not directly stated in the Quraan about smoking! So let’s see further!

I think you trying to say about the Arab people smoking the shisha right? That is their culture brother!

Smoking was unknown during the time of the Prophet Muhammad (PBUH)! And there is a general principle in Islamic law which says that everything harmful to human mind, body and soul is prohibited in Islam! So then smoking is harmful which is forbidden by Allah as in the Quraan states:

“Those who follow the Messenger, the unlettered prophet, whom they find written in what they have of the Torah and the Gospel, who enjoins upon them what is right and forbids them what is wrong and makes lawful for them the good things and prohibits for them the evil and relieves them of their burden and the shackles which were upon them.” {Surah Al A’raf, V 7:157}

The habit of smoking is wasting money and it is the habit of the squanderers! So as the Quraan says:

“Surely, squanderers are brothers of Satans (devils), and the Satan (Devil) is very ungrateful to his Lord” {Surah Al Isra, V 17:27}

So it is clear that smoking is prohibited! But sad some Muslims are committing such sin and Allah will take them into judgment in the hereafter!

So ALLAH decides which crime should be punished and which ones shouldn't?

And also WHY SOME CRIMES are not PUNISHABLE? Or you don’t have that privilege to question GOD?

For every sin there is a torment (Punishment)! It can be on earth and in the hereafter! But it depends!

A person who commits a sin a punishment will be given but if he or she confesses then he or she is forgiven by Allah! But if does not and after the punishment is given and he or she regret for his or her bad deeds and follow the guidance of Allah, also will be forgiven by Allah!

So you mean punishment for each and every type of crime is included in Q'ran? In which section? (Just tell me I'll check online)

There are! There are in the Hadith too! But it is not very easy for me read all the verses and chapters of the Quraan at once as I will show you in few!
“As to the thief, Male or female, cut off his or her hands: a punishment by way of example, from Allah, for their crime: and Allah is Exalted in power But if the thief repents after his crime, and amends his conduct, Allah turned to him in forgiveness; for Allah is Oft-forgiving, Most Merciful” (5:38-39)

“As for those who reject Faith and give the lie to Our Signs, they shall be companions of the Fire; they shall abide therein.” (V 2:39)

This punishment is given to fear for Allah for not committing the sin! For theft if he has done it for the purpose of filling his or her hunger and if the object been robbed is not in a safe place is forgiven!

There are punishments for Apostasy, murder, theft and so on! Not only on earth but in the hereafter and as I told before if he or she confesses will be forgiven! But if does not and after the punishment is given and he or she regret for his or her bad deeds and follow the guidance of Allah, also will be forgiven by Allah!

But the punishment should be given or not is depends on all of 5 conditions!
The conditions are

· The punishment must be lawful one and accepted by the court order
· It should be a suitable one
· before commitment of a sin it should be an avoidable punishment one
· the punishment should be with a high purpose
· By giving the punishment to the wrongdoer, it should not be a grief to the society

Are you sure? Like how they delayed Visa's for Sri Lankan diplomats who wanted to talk about that particular girl who's in death row as we speak? She has given a translator saying that he is a Tamil but at the end that person made a mess of her translation? This is justice?

It is how the embassy runs! And people do have weaknesses! How do I know that they are following the rules properly! I can clearly see that they are doing is wrong! It doesn’t mean that it is Islam law taught that right! If so it’s the way you see!

“Surely, Allah does not wrong people at all, but the people do wrong their own selves.” (10:44)

So in this case it has been consistently failed... in Buddhism it refers to human behavior and blame will be on human themselves... how about in Islam where is the GOD to take the responsibility? Because it is God’s law after all!!!

Once again don’t expect Islam to be philosophy!

It’s not god has to be responsible! It the people, cause they handle the law! How can you clarify that it’s Islam law? It is because is a Muslim country, 100% they are following the Islam law? How do we know? Those people also have weaknesses, cunning Bedouins!

Buddhism and Islam cannot be compared at all! Buddhism is about philosophy found by human beings and Islam is about religion revealed by Allah! If you look into Islam in philosophy manner you will always see it as wrong!

According to Buddhism, the teachings, people should ignore about god! Then it’s same that if we show them or not, they do completely ignore it! However it’s not my problem! It’s the way the Buddhism follow!

Bismi Allahi alrrahmani alrraheemi (In the name of Allah, Most Gracious, Most Merciful.)

Allah is always a forgiver! But not for those who rejects! In several verses in the Quraan is stated!

 

[sri_lion]

Look not only Islam civilization has contributes to modern science also other civilizations

Allah has only revealed the Quraan and in the Quraan there are verses which was support for the Muslims which they did experiments on it! As an example in the Surah Ar-Ra’d stated:

“And it is He who spread out the earth, and set thereon mountains standing firm and (flowing) rivers: and fruit of every kind He made in pairs, two and two: He draweth the night as a veil o'er the Day. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who consider! And in the earth are tracts (diverse though) neighboring, and gardens of vines and fields sown with corn, and palm trees - growing out of single roots or otherwise: watered with the same water, yet some of them We make more excellent than others to eat. Behold, verily in these things there are signs for those who understand!” (13:3-4)

So base on this Surah, Al-Khwārizmī has work on his book of the appearance of the Earth" or "The image of the Earth" in 833 which was considered as geography! And you know Columbus wondered by evaluating this book and said that if this book says that the earth is a shape of a spherical, then traveling from the west to the east there should be a path or a road to reach each side! And so that is how he traveled and found America in 1942. Even more Muslims were involved in this subject!

Al-Khwārizmī has not only contribute to geography but to many

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_M%C5%ABs%C4%81_al-Khw%C4%81rizm%C4%AB
Even more Muslims in history have contributed by their own effort!

http://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Special%3ASearch&search=The+Golden+Islam&ns0=1

Well, even before Q'ran appeared people lived in this world and thrived didn't they? They did not refer to any divine text.. so what about them? So assuming that Allah is the creator of human.. why did not he create the first human and give the Q'ran to his hand and said "everything thing you need to know is here!". if you tell me this way.. then at least it makes sense!

Al-Khwarizmi was born in 780AD and his main contributions in Mathematics, (from the source you've given me) but bro... even '0' was invented in 5th century BC, way before Q'ran has been found/revealed! So how can you give credit to Q'ran in accordance with Al-Khwarizmi services?

What help? Look Allah has already given the guidance by the revelation of his message which is the Quraan! Only thing you don’t accept! That’s normal to you!

Well.. if all appears normal to me then we would not be having this discussion in the first place

There is nothing to think about! You are thinking that I’m a narrow-minded! What about this fellow, what about that fellow are the questions you are asking! For what?

Dont jump into conclusions now!!

Look whether it is Albert or whoever we are all human beings and Allah has given humankind the will and the ability to think! And among us there can be different viewers! So there will be people who will disprove the Quraan and there will be people who will believe in it! There can be great scientists who are Muslims and non Muslims! There are twins born conjoint! There are children who are born abnormal and normal!

So Allah has created the human being not in way who are born Muslims are the best and not in a way who is born non Muslims are the worse! Once again Allah has given the humankind the will! So there will be different people having different choice!

If Allah has made Albert Einstein as a non-Muslim and a great scientist, it does not mean that he will not be taken to judgment also whether a person is a Muslim! As Allah has given the will to humankind and so Albert Einstein, he will be judge for his deeds in earth for the hereafter which he will be deserve heaven or fire. May peace be upon Albert Einstein!


Look for those were born abnormal Allah is most forgiver! But who have the knowledge and still disprove Allah deserve them punishment
This earth is a test for the hereafter!

Allah forgives who only follow the guidance of Allah and deserve punishment to those who rejects and disbelieve!

Ok that's exactly what I'm asking here... see Einstien did perhaps the greatest service to mankind in the modern world.. so he did good deeds even though he wasn't a Muslim, so if Allah... like you say would consider his good deeds but then what would be his (Allah's) decision?

Will he..

Decides "Ok.. this person did a lot of good, even though he is not a Muslim I'm sending him to heaven"

or

"Ok.. this guy did lot of good deed but since he isn't a Muslim I'm sending him to Hell"

in which case both seems odd to me.. because in 1st case then you don't necessarily have to be a Muslim to go to where Muslims go after death! in the second case, just because you are not a Muslim whatever good you do doesn't matter, you will still go to Hell!!

So clear out for me.. which one? please!!

You think that a person who has belief in god will always ask for divine help? Which concept is that?

WHY NOT? You believe he is out there somewhere right? So you mean you don't believe he can do this or what? If you dont believe a simple thing like this then how do you believe he created a Universe? or you just not ask help for these kind of small things

But for a GOD who created a Universe this can be fixed in a jiffy right?

I dunno.. your choice!! I'm just asking....

I know the way you are thinking! If I asked divine help you think it will be cured? Silly! I would take care myself! Look in this earth Allah has given us the physical and non physical feelings! So if we fall somewhere we will be hurt! Likewise if we use our mind to the wrong path we will be doing wrong things! That is something normal brother! So we need only to be careful, though it is not easy!

No matter how careful you are if someone else is not careful he can harm you that's also called an accident.. (most of the time)

So always being perfect is impossible, unless a GOD of Allah's caliber makes human perfect.. (now I wonder why he didn't)

You believe that there is god only if you see him! But if God send a messenger to the people and if god sends a message to the people, you won’t believe!
Now it is clear for me how you see at Islam! And it is clear for me why you don’t believe! I’m not trying to convince you and won’t convince you! It’s not my duty As Allah said in the Quraan:

“Let there be no compulsion in religion: Truth stands out clear from Error: whoever rejects evil and believes in Allah has grasped the most trustworthy hand-hold that never breaks. And Allah hears and knows all things.”

NO! I'm not saying you MUST see to believe! But it SURE does helps.. Are you denying that? that's human nature... or should I say.. the very nature that Allah created in human beings... so he should understand it better than us!

We believe Jesus (Isa) PBUH as one of the prophets of Allah before Muhammad (PBUH) and he also gave the same message of Allah like Muhammad (PBUH) as it is there in the Quraan stated:

“We have sent thee inspiration, as We sent it to Noah and the Messengers after him: we sent inspiration to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob and the Tribes, to Jesus, Jacob, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the Psalms.” (4:163)

Allah revealed to Jesus (Isa) PBUH the (inspiration) message which is called the Injiil (Gospel). Allah revealed to Moses (Musa) PBUH the (inspiration) message which is called the Tawraat (Torah). Allah revealed to David (Dawud) PBUH the (inspiration) message which is called the Psalms (Zabur) and which the statement in the Quraan Allah revealed it to Muhammad (PBUH)

So does this means, all Christians will not be punished on the Judgment day?

Because they followed a Prophet of Allah! If so... then again.. you don't have to be a Muslim to go to heaven?

A disciple means the one who follow! Allah does want all his mankind to follow his guidance! So if you are telling why he doesn’t appear, as I have mentioned it before, if the people don’t believe in the existence of Allah’s signs, Allah’s Angels, Allah’s Messengers, Allah’s books, The day of resurrection and hereafter! How would the people believe then there is one true god i.e. Allah when he appears? After appearing will the people then remove their previous belief, regret and follow Allah’s guidance! Then I have to ask how you will or in which reason you will remove the belief in Buddhism you have?
Allah will not appear! And I know according to Buddhism you will completely ignore it!

Actually say if someone says you don't exist, what better way to convince that person other than you show him you sure does exist? If you send messengers and angels etc. etc. the more the people will dis believe you!! This is just common sense.. if you want people to believe you, stop beating around the bush... just present what they don't believe.. end of the story.. why go through all this criticism?

Then I have to ask how you will or in which reason you will remove the belief in Buddhism you have?

Maybe the day Allah stop sending someone behalf of him and appears himself and prove all this is his creation!!

And if you are telling that if god appears people will follow him! Then why still some convert to Islam and did they ever want to see god just like you ask?

That is people's choice.. every person is different.. this question you should Allah.. not me!!

Allah has revealed the message as stated in the Quraan

“Those who do not know say: .Why is it that Allah does not speak to us, nor does a sign come to us? So spoke those before them as these people do. Their hearts resemble each other. We have indeed made the signs clear for the people who have certitude.Surely, We have sent you with the truth, as a bearer of good tidings, and a warner, and you will not be asked about the people of Hell.” (2:118)

But I don know why you’ll won’t believe what Muhammad (PBUH) has told, the revelation of the Quraan which is the message of Allah! I have to ask you that! Please reply me that!

Because, if there's only ONE TRUE GOD, then I can't see any reason why.. for him not to present himself to the people (like you guys) whom pray for him day and night.. Here I'm talking as a Human to GOD not as a Buddhist...

If human have this much of faith on you... what possible reason you have not to appear yourself and let them hear your words and wisdom from you!!??

We believe that there is god not just for the sake! We believe as Allah has revealed the message and all the prophets of Islam has spread the message of Allah and proved it! But some ignored it and still some disprove! How much you see and how much you hear you won’t believe as in the Quraan Allah asks and says:

“And who believe in what has been revealed to you and what has been revealed before you; and they have faith in the Hereafter.” (2:4)

“Surely for those who have disbelieved, it is all the same whether you warn them or you warn them not: they do not believe. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing; and on their eyes there is a covering, and for them awaits a mighty punishment.” (2:6-7}

It will not make any difference to such people whether you warn them or not, they will not believe. Allah has set a seal on their hearts and on their hearing and on their eyes is a veil. It is not because Allah has set a seal on their hearts that these non-Muslims do not understand and believe, but it is the vice-versa. It is because these non-Muslims are bent on rejecting the truth and whether you warn them or not they will not believe.



don’t expect Islam to be a philosophy!

According to Islam we believe that there is no any other god or greater than god and only one true god i.e. Allah, The Almighty, The All-Wise.
You say the Quraan does not give the freedom to choose! Why? The Quraan is the message of Allah and it is the guidance to those who fear for Allah! As in the Quraan states:

“This Book has no doubt in it - guidance for the God-fearing” (V 2:2)

So it doesn’t mean that we can’t have the choice to convert! It is Muslims fear for Allah for not going astray. So it is wrong to say that there is no freedom of choice! Allah has given humankind the will, so we have the choices! So a Muslim who converts from Islam to another means only he rejects Allah and his messengers! This means he has gone astray of Allah and he is taken into account of punishment in the hereafter! And it is not for only the Muslims! It also for those who rejects the beliefs of Allah for all humankind!

“Those who disbelieve after having accepted Faith and then increase in disbelief, their repentance shall never be accepted. They are the ones who have lost the right path.” (V 2:27)

“As for those who reject Faith and give the lie to Our Signs, they shall be companions of the Fire; they shall abide therein.” (V 2:39)

Ok! so let me get this straight & simple...

Allah creates human.. reveals Q'ran... and says "Ok I have given you the freedom to think as human"..

Then human uses that freedom to follow or explore other avenues... and the moment he does that.... he enters Allah's punishment LOG or something? So what's the freedom really means in Allah's book?

Does Allah means.. whatever you do you cannot be a non-Muslim? then what freedom is that?

 

[sirajstc]

I Hoped for something peaceful here...As always in ElaKiri its going to a bad end...I thought this thread would give some positive points to think..but it was transformed into some shit..And i expected some respect towards religions.nothing happened in the end..!

At one place a fellow says stick to the topic while its already out of the topic..

And another thing is that some questions were omitted in this conversation...It was nt qouted at all...

And someone said that the positive points will be appreciated...But the good was also nt qouted (why?becus u dnt want to admit it)...All were only finding faults..!By this what i came to know is some guys are never to appreciate nor to agree some points..

And the pakistan cricket thing....i duno what the hell was running on his mind...I never supported pakistan and some do support pakistan...But i dnt think it is bcuz for wateva so called person meant....There was nothin deep like that in supporting the team..!


And useless arguing anymore coz wateva said.., u neva eva agree some points..u omit it and start another topic......Sad abt it..and have witnessed this in EK b4 too...!

.:: PEACE-OUT::.

*U=thoppiya hari nam daganna

well said bro

 

[sirajstc]

PANATHI PHATA WERA MANI SIQQAPDAN SAMADIYAMI
MAMA PRANA GHATHNAYEN WALAKEE SITIMI

1

MALU, KUKULLU Prane noveda?.ea gana katha nokaranne manda?

2

wature wale giveen giwathwey ea wathura unu karanawita ea giveen ge pranaya ghathanaya kara unu watura ho tea bonnemu.
unuwatura ho tea bona kenekuta NIVAN labiya nohakida?

3

apa kawruth dannemu gass/wal walatah pranayak thibe esenam
goyam gasse pranaya ghathanayakara haal labagena bath kame kese dakkinneda?
elawalu kame kese sadaranikaranaya keranneda?



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oba ediriye L.T.T.E. maragena marena ghathakeyek siti, obata ohu bombaya pipiraweemata pera ohuwa ghathanaya kirime hakiyawk athai sithamu.

oba ohuwa gathanaya karranneda?
nathinam
"mama prana ghathanaya nokarami" "sathuratatha maithri karami" pawasa
ohuta bombaya piparaweemate ida harinneda?

oya tiyanne

 

[Rohan_de_Silva]

Can somebody please post the link to the talk pls???

Where is the blooddy link????