Interesting interview by Ralipanawe Pannyasiri Himi about muslims...

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i dont know about you.but I feel really good about this, to reach this far…I should say this must be one of the farst points I could go with a Buddhist. And should be frank I personally had a negative picture of you after our 1st discussion and I think I was not correct, now.

I know we couldn’t find answers to any burning cosmological questions but I expected it. but what I wanted to know is can a discussion about religion go to end without the usual bashing and thrashings. don’t think its useless cos just as the interview in the start I know it has triggered questions and maybe that could trigger thinking which we both can agree a good thing.

Of cos there were a negative side as well but I think that’s the way it is, but I really feel good..

OK this is where it should end up for sure..
sri_lion said:
looking at your comments I can only think of one thing.. that is you do not know how we came here but maybe you think someone make us appear here? If you think that way then.. I give up.. because there's no point of talking if that's the case.. if not, then lets hear how you think the birth of species began!
Yes obviously following my arguments will show I never can accept the theory of “SOMETHING CAME FROM NOTHING” personally, it seems unscientific and illogical to me in every possible way. Maybe even you think so according to this statement…MAYBE NOT...

sri_lion said:
Uh the chimp thing you missed my statement I guess.”on its own” doesn’t mean sandwiching one into rocket and shooting to space…that’s ok people still make mistakes I no…

Anyways finally I need some points cleared hope you’ll have time for this too. Since we came this far it wouldn’t be complete without these…

You said all elements consist of 4 things.

What about these stuff, spirit, soul, sense (not thinking), feelings (science thinks its chemical reactions)..
You believe these are part of evolution?
Science totally rejects soul that I know cos doesn’t serve any purpose.
Buddhism supports or opposes it? why?
What are they made of, Elements consisting of above 4 things?

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    Hey then ur killing a living beign there?oh no thats a sin man:shocked: Thats nt either allowed in buddhism ne:eek: Killing Living beigns???oh noo!

    Sooo funy... :oo: dumbest thing i've heard 4 sm time :rolleyes:
     

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    Sorry about the late reply.. I was quite busy with things!

    Anyway here we go..

    just said:
    Uh the chimp thing you missed my statement I guess.”on its own” doesn’t mean sandwiching one into rocket and shooting to space…that’s ok people still make mistakes I no…

    I know, Juz kidding there! ;)

    just said:
    Anyways finally I need some points cleared hope you’ll have time for this too. Since we came this far it wouldn’t be complete without these…

    You said all elements consist of 4 things.

    What about these stuff, spirit, soul, sense (not thinking), feelings (science thinks its chemical reactions)..
    You believe these are part of evolution?
    Science totally rejects soul that I know cos doesn’t serve any purpose.
    Buddhism supports or opposes it? why?
    What are they made of, Elements consisting of above 4 things?

    Thanks

    1st of all I guess I missed an important word in my previous reply.. sorry about that..

    Buddhism sees things in 2 different perspective...

    1. Mind
    2. Matter

    the 4 elements I mentioned refer to matter, NOT mind.. It is said in Buddhism Mind and Matter is when it comes to living beings.. Matter is Body which holds your Mind in it! When your body cannot support it self anymore, it dies and Mind will have to find yet another matter to link to!

    How does Mind get released from the body? or into the body? no one knows!

    But Mind only can unleash it powers as far as matter allows it to...

    Ex: New-Born children will not have the ability to learn as fast as a grown ups!

    In science this may explain as the chemical reactions or work of neurons and stuff!

    Except that Science cannot prove what happens after death and what exactly is mind, apart from the chemical reaction theory.. I don't see how Buddhism oppose it.. Because Science has proven matter and Buddhism adds Mind to it.. yet not yet proven by Science to the fullest extent! Science see Mind through Matter.. Buddhism see a mind with & without matter (without: this only happens after death)

    So in Buddhism this Mind is called Bhavanga-Sotha this is said to be the element they refer to as what separates from the physical matter when it get destroyed!

    Ever heard a saying called "Mind over Matter"? this actually comes to my mind because as Buddhism suggests, as long as we have a matter bound to a Mind we have survival instincts.. even though our mind is capable of archiving greater heights (Nirvana) our fondness to entertain matter (body) is a great barrier to it, and the irony is its true potential too can be unleashed only through a matter (Body), and this what LORD BUDDHA taught... HOW TO USE IT TO UNLEASH THAT TRUE POTENTIAL!!!

    And Lord Buddha said, This is what you can achieve with what you have!! So if you want you can go for it... else... Dont just fool around... live your life well... and he taught how to do that too! So the ultimate decision is yours!

    So Mind over matter in a proper way is ALWAYS ENCOURAGED!:)

    just said:
    i dont know about you.but I feel really good about this, to reach this far…I should say this must be one of the farst points I could go with a Buddhist. And should be frank I personally had a negative picture of you after our 1st discussion and I think I was not correct, now.

    No probs! :)

    just said:
    I know we couldn’t find answers to any burning cosmological questions but I expected it.

    Yes! true! even Lord Buddha kept quiet when he was asked by someone, "how big is this universe".. as a matter of fact he even classified 14 of those kind of questions which are unanswerable!

    And we gotta admit that every religion has those kind of questions, and I personally think most of these questions have little or no effect to what we expect from a religion!

    just said:
    but what I wanted to know is can a discussion about religion go to end without the usual bashing and thrashings. don’t think its useless cos just as the interview in the start I know it has triggered questions and maybe that could trigger thinking which we both can agree a good thing.

    Of cos there were a negative side as well but I think that’s the way it is, but I really feel good..

    :)
     

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    sri_lion said:
    I don't think Sinhalese people are blaming Muslims for eating meat, Sinhalese eat meat too so how can they only blame Muslims? :rolleyes:

    Although what the hamuduruwo said about beef is correct! Not only from a religious point of view..just forget the religious point of view for a moment I think if you look into Sinhalese culture we are where we are today because of COW.. last time I checked Sri Lanka was the 13th country in the world when it comes to consuming rice! For a country as small as this..... this is huge! and indeed it show how much our country dependent on rice from ancient times, we Sri Lankans even exported rice those days :lol:

    So in the humble beginnings of Sri Lanka COW was the centric point if there were no COWS there's no rice, we milked them, we used them as transport, even their excrements were used as fertilizers... the new technology now changed everything and the animal once was too precious too be eaten soon became meat in Sri Lanka!

    I think its something personal... depends on individual... if any animal in the history of Sri Lanka helped Sri Lanka to grow its the COW.. if you can respect that and spare the Animal then that's the simplest of ways we as Sri Lankans can pay our tribute to this once precious Animal! You don't need religion to figure that out!

    sahenne bonna ona prashnayak :oo:
     

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    I read the post but no time to read the other's reply of this post!

    From here my veiw about the conversations is really good that most buddisht know and most muslims know that why rejections of certain situation like Kurban the cow comes as a case! So They will understand the muslims

    Also according to the conversation there are certain contradictions like Lord Buddha Didnt say about the existence of god, didnt say about prohibitions of eating meat! As The Al Q'Ran Explains every area clearly about who is god, how to Kurban the cow for consumptions purpose! Therefore It is fair enough not to blame the muslims for kurban the cow and how muslims have belief in god! So please understand very clearly cause certain scenario is complicated!

    Religion practices are not put in laws even in other countries as religion practices and State law contradicts State law always prevails!

    So YES! we can build a better nation by understanding each other in a proper manner! (No Fights!)
     

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    sri_lion said:
    I don't think Sinhalese people are blaming Muslims for eating meat, Sinhalese eat meat too so how can they only blame Muslims? :rolleyes:

    Although what the hamuduruwo said about beef is correct! Not only from a religious point of view..just forget the religious point of view for a moment I think if you look into Sinhalese culture we are where we are today because of COW.. last time I checked Sri Lanka was the 13th country in the world when it comes to consuming rice! For a country as small as this..... this is huge! and indeed it show how much our country dependent on rice from ancient times, we Sri Lankans even exported rice those days :lol:

    So in the humble beginnings of Sri Lanka COW was the centric point if there were no COWS there's no rice, we milked them, we used them as transport, even their excrements were used as fertilizers... the new technology now changed everything and the animal once was too precious too be eaten soon became meat in Sri Lanka!

    I think its something personal... depends on individual... if any animal in the history of Sri Lanka helped Sri Lanka to grow its the COW.. if you can respect that and spare the Animal then that's the simplest of ways we as Sri Lankans can pay our tribute to this once precious Animal! You don't need religion to figure that out!

    :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
     

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    so why ppl try to create a point like this? :P

    Machan Oya Killing girl Kiyana Thread eka full baluwanam(Samaharu 2nd ID eken Reply karapu eka kesewethath) Machan Umbata therevi Mehema Dewaluth Nokiya baha Kiyalaa... ara Umba Daanney godaak welawata Boudda Ayata Upades and Sirasa Gana kawru monawa kiwwath Mama kiyana Eka Kiyana wa Wage...


    I have find about "Probodhaya" magazine
    but unfortunately there is no magazine in that name :lol:
    Mama Dan Lankawe Naha Hitiyanam Oyata A' Magazine Eke copys deka thunakma Denna thibunaa.. Mokada A'ka mage Langath thiyenawaa.. Kalaapa Deka thunak Matath Labunaa.. (O'ne Nam Mama Kalin daapu Bin Ladin Gana Article Ekak Athi A'kath mama Scan Karala Dammey Elakiri Eke Oya magazine Eken aran thamai Poddak Mage Parana Threads wala hewwama labei Uwamanawa thiyenawanam)

    who care??
    like I can create a article about islam and puta my name as "mohomad abdul"
    A' Magazine eka Muslimla Sinhala Aya Ekathuwela(Danna tharamin School Lamai wagayak Karanney.. so Sinhala Namak A'ke ena Eka Loku Deyak nam Newei..



    Machan Pansale Nama Kiyala a' Hamaduruwange Nama daalama thiyenawaney Eyagen ahuwama Api Methana Kawda Prashna Kare Kiyala waada Karanawata wadaa Hondai neyda... a' Hamuduruwo Aththa Kiyala thiyenawa Nam Thawath Tharka Karanna Awashsha naney... Oyath Kalin Post waladi ekak kiyala Passe Oya Ara Maansha Anubawaya Gana Pothak aawata Passe Oyage Adahasa Wena Karagena Theyrum Gathhta Kiyala Kiwwaney.. So meykath Kamathi nam Pili Ganna Naththam A' Hamu Duruwo Kiwwa Wage Nikan Katin Witharak Bouddayo Kiyala Kiyana Ayage Ganayata watei.. Niyama Bowddayo Nam Mama Danna Tharamin (ara Walbada wage)Aagam wala hari waradi hoya Hoya Yanney nathuwa Athi... Mokada Niwan Dakinnata Aagam wala hari waradi hoyanna O'ne Nahaney...
     
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    Thank you very much for posting this, gained lots of information about budism from this,

    One Muslim brother stated that he was insulted bcoz his religion at school, even I too have that kind of experience from few teachers at school, but as I know majority of the buddist aren't like that I just ignore the few extreamist since every religion has extreamist, even in Islam,

    Here we go About beards,intresting,:)

    Brother can you show a Incident where a patient has got infected by a virus due to the beard of the doctor,

    If thire is a incident, brother it is better if you can complain it to the Health authorities or else you can file a case against that doctor and seek the help of law to punish him,(only if you have proof to show a patient got infected by a virus)

    and it is not only Muslims who grow beard Jews, sikhs and many other religion,


    Finaly No where in Quran it is stated that man should go his beard,
     

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    mama wiswasa karana hetiyata, yahapath samajayak apata ona. ehema yahapath samajayak hadaganna apata noyek sammuthin awashya wenawa. udaharanayak hetiyata, samajayaka, "sorakam kirima weraddak" kiyana piligenima minisun thula thiyenna ona.

    me wage thamai, "gathanaya" kiyana dein minissu welakila inna ona. eka nusudusi. sathuntath anek hema jiwiyektamath, minissunta wage jiwath wenna aithiyak thiyenawa.
     

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    (WAL BADA) This names itself implies what his personal beliefs about Islam is! What ever contradictions you see in any of the religions, (pls you are just a good debater only) pls undersatnd not the muslims, but what the Q'Ran says about certain scenarios you have about Islam! only answer can be given about is Islam is the Al Q'ran!

    I Tell WAL BADA! Do You Appreciate what Muslims do according to their religion? If you are a hater keep it to ur self! pointless stating out. what are getting from this, you are just a good debater only to win off!

    And sri lion is a good viewer which cant be compared to WAL BADA! but has certain contradictions about Islam! Miracles happen according to sience, not just! But some great people cannot find the proof for it! so certain scenarios the answer can be found in the Al Q'Ran itself! e.g.- did anyone found how in Mecca which is a desert area, water keeps continuesly flowing! Also dont forget that the article written about science and Islam is fairly true K!

    Also sri lion should answer this! wheter we are Muslims, does it means supporting the Muslims only????? If Pakistan is a Muslim country we should support them is a such a dumb logic thinking! look i'm a Muslim but a Malay, should I support the malays then! What about my country Sri Lanka! You mean I should not care what is happening here? but care about Malaysia? look would you condemn for what happened to America about 9/11 or LTTE Attacks in Sri LANKA? (But that is You, is everyone is like that!)

    Also dont forget that this is a democratic country, everybody have the right to live! And Sharia Law is introducted in Sri Lanka too! Did you know that In CIMA the professional qualification, the students are bound to follow some of the Sharia laws! what you guys know about sharia laws?

    Did you know had Dr. Maurice Bucaille! he said that what ever experiments he does, never forgets the Al Q'Ran to support the research!

    About the beard is a practice of Muhammad (PBUH) which is a sunnah! is not legible to do so! And no where in the Al Q'Ran stated to grow beard!

    The govt sector is a beauracy institute and very slow! certain problems occurs! also this applies to private sectors too! so why cant take some immediate action if you see some ethical issues out there! than just keeping the mouth moving! that percentage this percantage woint work until you solve! Also It is the practice of Islam that you see certain ethical issues is WAL BADA's View

    If A Muslim doctor takes ablution 5 times a day means that he is enough clean to do the operation? NO! Certains safety practice are implemented in Hospital to follow! and where the heck stated that taking ablution 5 times day is part of safety practice!

    Lord Buddha said nothing about god & only focus on solving to avoid suffering! But Islam says it all about god and stuff as Gary Miller will answer you!

    Also some good answer are given by A.K. Ramsom too! so you can ask from him too!

    Another thingis that you dont make me laugh but make me smile! as it is fair enough the way you look at Islam! because can we explain to you about certain case abou Islam base on the assumption of that you know what the Q'Ran Say??? NO!
     
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    Is All Religions Should Be Blamed? Doesn't it teach good! It's stupid to think that religion teaches wrong thing! that is how WAL BADA Looks at Islam! But it's not my problem but his problem and he knows why but i do not know why!
     

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    gpindika said:
    I don't think Sinhalese people are blaming Muslims for eating meat, Sinhalese eat meat too so how can they only blame Muslims?

    Look What pindika is telling, so what the problem that they are telling us eating meat is killing meat and Muslims are wrong and they are sinners! Wht nonsense without looking why The Muslims kurbans the cow for consumption purpose!

    So without knowing why and how the Muslims get into their religious practice specially according to the the Al Q'Ran stated dont give conclusions (this applies to everyone)
     

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    Me prashna ahana ekata Buddhism walata islam rules danna ona wela wagene prashna ahanne.
     

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    daddyimmo said:
    Also sri lion should answer this! wheter we are Muslims, does it means supporting the Muslims only????? If Pakistan is a Muslim country we should support them is a such a dumb logic thinking! look i'm a Muslim but a Malay, should I support the malays then! What about my country Sri Lanka! You mean I should not care what is happening here? but in Malaysia? look would you condemn for what happened to America about 9/11 or LTTE Attacks in Sri LANKA? (But that is You, is everyone is like that!)

    I dont see a question here... If at all I were to understand what you are saying I think we both say the same thing..!!! If not.. then please make it more clearer!!

    daddyimmo said:
    Also dont forget that this is a democratic country, everybody have the right to live! And Sharia Law is introducted in Sri Lanka too! Did you know that In CIMA the professional qualification, the students are bound to follow some of the Sharia laws! what you guys know about sharia laws?

    Our EK member "just" and me had a discussion on Sharia Law and its practicality here in this thread... you can refer to it!!!

    http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84275
     

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    In my case I don't live according to whims and fancies of some people (creators of all those religions) who lived 1000s of years ago. Anunta karadarayak, waraddak karanne nathuwa jeewath wenawanag echcharai. :)

    BTW, Why were all those religions started 1000s of years ago. Ai dan kawruth religions start karannathte?
     

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    daddyimmo said:
    Miracles happen according to sience, not just! But some great people cannot find the proof for it! so certain scenarios the answer can be found in the Al Q'Ran itself! e.g.- did anyone found how in Mecca which is a desert area, water keeps continuesly flowing!

    First of I'm puzzled about how can miracles happen in Science? Maybe you can explain!

    Second of all... if you say since Mecca has water so its a miracle, what about other oasis in the desert? are they a miracle too?

    daddyimmo said:
    Also dont forget that the article written about science and Islam is fairly true K!

    Fairly true? :dull:

    daddyimmo said:
    Lord Buddha said nothing about god & only focus on solving to avoid suffering! But Islam says it all about god and stuff as Gary Miller will answer you!

    Buddha said nothing about GOD? are you sure? and how does "Gary Miller" know?
     

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    Yo! Sri Machan!

    sri_lion
    Second of all... if you say since Mecca has water so its a miracle, what about other oasis in the desert? are they a miracle too?

    That's one of examples too I wanted say so! also other examples like Neil Armstrong heard the Azan on the moon, But according to science, that the moon has no air and sound cant be travelled through air. BUT Neil Armstroing heard the azan on the moon! but how? anybody found? then what do you called that incident is? You hate to call it is miracle because you dont believe it!

    Fairly true? :dull:

    Oh Another thing I forget to tell is that I noticed one thing about you is that you catch grammar mistakes and such words like i posted some replies! So Yes fairly true means as I told before you hate to call it is a miracle, So I wanted to tell is that other relevant informtion says some important facts about science and Islam! So that you will understand that (according to you) the information about science and Islam is true! Right Am I?

    sri_lion
    Buddha said nothing about GOD? are you sure? and how does "Gary Miller" know?

    Do you know Gary Miller? Do you Know What he says about the Al Q'Ran? Why Didnt you ask me the Question anything about Dr. Maurice Bucaille as I stated before!

    About Lord Budhha, I appreciate his teachings! He is a human, but a super natural human! so it fair enough that he said that It is not my business or yours to find out whether there is God – our business is to remove the sufferings of the world! That where the point he gave out in his teaching! But Al' Q'Ran Which is divine revealed state clearly who is god! So it doent mean to me as Al Q'ran state that there is god to believe Islam! I took my own time and studied about it! Did you do it?

    NOTICE: Another thing you said to refer to the thread of Islam, It's difficult to find what you were telling, so didnt do it! if you could point out to me pls?
     
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