just said:actually my question was if you didnt understand "who makes sure that particular affect will only occur for that particular couse. in another way why doesnt this system get messedup"..we all know cause and affect in fact all religions and science based on it.
How can it get messed up? if there's no root cause will there be any effect? Are you suggesting that there is "someone" that's responsible who's doing this? If you say all religions and science based on it then how can you think that there's "someone" is responsible will science support your "someone" theory?
The cause and the effect of the world is right in front your eyes its happening now and it has happened before and lord Buddha only did highlight it to the human being and gave them something to think about, to think about where they wanna end the journey in the long run!
just said:interesting!!! you are assuming Evolution is a law here and taking it as the base, can i know is this your personel view or view of buddism?no its not its a theory made by human being obviousely can go wrong.
I'm not assuming anything! Evolution is not a theory anymore.. ITS A FACT!
Well its good that you bought the topic about "the unseen universe of Spirit", well I must say here... all religions and their theories can be tested until death.. they all including Buddhism has theories of what happens after death but nobody no matter what religion you are will not know for sure what exactly will happen.... so unseen spirits remain to be tested and lets focus on seen circumstances and religion's theories on them!
All I can do is relate teachings of Lord Buddha to the modern human teachings and explain it from there!! Do you have a better way of explaining something other than relate it already proven theories? If so please let me know!
just said:[/B]do you or buddism accepts survival of the fittest, as part of the evalution theory as well - answer please
And yes! Buddhism accepts the survival of the fittest very much! But in Buddhism "fittest" in human relate to our mind! Unlike Animals, human can innovate and evolve into their innovations.. that's mind! Because one big difference between human and other living beings is that other living beings totally depend on their physical abilities to survive and less of intelligence but human is not!
Ex: Animals will only allow breeding of the fittest if you are a lion you need fight and prove you are strong to reproduce, but humans are not..... every one of us breed regardless of any issues! so there's a difference when it comes to humans..why? because of the MIND!!!
just said:in fact Alfred Russel Wallace leading evalutionist in 19th century who proposed natural selection theory before darwin, and considered the "father of biogeography" said "the unseen universe of Spirit" had interceded at least three times in history: The first was the creation of life from inorganic matter. The second was the introduction of consciousness in the higher animals, and the third was the generation of the higher mental faculties in mankind
source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace#Differences_between_Darwin.27s_and_Wallace.27s_ideas_on_natural_selection
if you need i can give you names of evolutionist who think otherwise than darwin.
You can gives names and addresses of evolutionists all you want but don't forget to mention about their theories and whether it has proven or not...
just said:so if one days its proved evalutions wrong then would you think "NIRVANA" also cannot be achieved - answer please
YES! If Evolution is wrong then where's human? where did human come from?
just said:ok if that explains. then how would explain what happened to innocent little monks when LTTE massacered in anuradapura sri maha bodiya. we saw the effect but where was the cause?you say we just think they deserved it?- answer please
Should MONKS be treated any different when it comes to world order as in cause and effect? And when it comes to cause and effect can this only happen to each individual? why can't a cause of group of people not have an effect too? Like I said undesirable cause creates undesirable effects... govt. wage WAR and kill LTTE.. no matter they are enemy or not the cause is not desirable since it involves killing and the above mentioned situation is the effect...that's one explanation and possibility!
Also if you are wondering then how does this accounts for each person that got killed, well.. in Buddhism this is called "Reproductive Karma" which is actually the amount of Karma that you bring over to your current life from the previous which causes an effect that is another possibility!
Else it could also be that each or some persons behavior in this life time resulted in this situation...So you need to find what were those monks behavior in this life time or the past life to be conclusive! If they did good deeds in this life time then it surely a product they bought over that resulted in their own destruction!
And this in Buddhism is called "Destructive Karma"!
just said:yes i do.is that wrong to discuss religion within the boundries? i never insulted or intended to insulted to any religion including yours. if so please show me and i'm not ashamed to apoligize for it publicly in the forum from each and every person follows that religion. we all make mistakes..
These issues will never be discussed within boundaries, certainly not in an internet forum where most of us are anonymous!





