JHU demands 50 billion pounds from UK

[amila_90210]

Sathya dakeeme baagya labeema niwahalbaway.

Patu paramaartha athwidimin ae thulin pawasana deyin prakaasha karanne wahalbaway.

Yali nagitinu yay pawasaddi yam ayekuta hagenne aluth muhunuwarak gath kala men ya. Eheth , ema muhunuwaren yalith sathapennata sidu wana bawa dana gannaa ta yali nageeteemak thibey. Eheth eya ese nowana bawa yali yali pawasanna hata kisi daaka sathya nidahasa saha ehi aathmaanu thrupthiya nohage

m fead up with conversations sorry ..i will another day

 

[sri_lion]

well those British who were in the great great grand fathers balls were capable enough to build the railways of SL and the roads. And if you are asking me if SL would have not been able to do it by themselves, YES.

Ofcourse they were capable because remember they had colonies all over the world... we are talking about enormous amount of expertize and financial capabilities here!

They did not build them because they loved us dude, they built them because they had a profit from it, they may have built them but they also made good money for themselves! Isn't it?

I'll give you real-time practical examples.

There is a bridge in Kandy, Katugastota. Its a bloody main bridge, without it Kandy will almost not function.

It was built by the british really really long time ago. And todate that blody bridge is transporting more than 7500 vehicles per day without a singe repair other than maintenance. Now the governmant started building another bridge parrallal to it as the currently availble one is not at all sufficient. They started it in 2005, it was supposed to finish in 2008 May, and what do you think, they are still putting the bloody columns.

Thats how much they could do. Because of the utter corruption, laziness, prehistoric ideas and beliefs of astronomy etc (Which could be excused) etc. etc.

Dont bring in corruption and laziness... which is not what we are talking about here.. we are talking about the negative impact British colonization had on Sri Lanka.... If you talk that way.. please remember Sri Lanka has also has built bridges in recent times on record duration, also it wasn't British who built every skyscraper that you see in Colombo today!

English did this all because there was an urge to do so!

How d you think the SL people would have invented tea? By cross breeding Grass?

English did not invent TEA

Tea was in Asia long time before it reached Sri Lanka Before Sri Lanka it was the Chinese whom were the leading manufacturer, English only bought it here....

See what happened... if English never colonized us, we would maybe at a later stage would grow tea by ourselves, without all this mess created by them!

Sure they bought tea a bit early, but they went back after setting a fire of civil war that would last for the next 3 decades... ever thought how much that would cost? Now compare that with Railway track or bunch of bridges they built.. which would be cheaper? C'mon dude!!

The railways are still in good condition, and transport more than 100,000 people per day. How do you like that?

Ofcourse they are in good condition because we maintain them... what.. do you want us to just set fire to them? HAHAHA they were built using our land our resources.. only the technology was theirs..

Tell me something... Do you think... if English never build those railways, we would never have any today? Honestly do you think so?

 

[sachii]

wahal bawa kathaa karayi

eka atta samara kalu suddo nisa thamay lankawata mehema wela tiyenne adath egollo me rate tiyana dewal gana kata karanne thuttu dekata dala. ara dharmapala thuma kuwa wage munussu thama innawa eka me thread eke replies walin penawa. mewata itin

 

[amila_90210]

eka atta samara kalu suddo nisa thamay lankawata mehema wela tiyenne adath egollo me rate tiyana dewal gana kata karanne thuttu dekata dala. ara dharmapala thuma kuwa wage munussu thama innawa eka me thread eke replies walin penawa. mewata itin

Yep

Being pathetic is one showing it to others is the shame

i ve fed up already sis..i had enough boiling in the other thread

 

[sri_lion]

There was an incident where SL had to build its own length of railway downsouth after the Tsunami, do you have any idea how long it took them? And yet the quality of the British was not reached.

Again time is not the problem here... its a problem of can do or cannot without them... ofcourse we did, how can you say which is quality which is not? if they were made to last then how come they came off during Tsunami in the first place?

Now we use "Concrete Colomns" on our rail tracks, new technology "Cement" is much cheaper, environmentally friendly, strong...... HAHAHA C'mon dude!!!

Lets talk about the Galle fort, wasnt it the benchmark erection that survived with minimal damage after the Tsunami, despite its age?

HAHAHA desptie its age eh? Erm... Ruwanwelisaya was built in 2nd Century BC (Still standing today, oops where were the Brits?), now lets see..... when was Galle Fort built? 17th Century? HAHAHA GO FLY A KITE MAN!!!

What about the ancient busses that are still on streets in some areas that were brought in by rgwe British as donations? (After independance)

Whose donation was it to build the Victoria dam? It was trhe british, they did not ask to repay it, but instead asked to name it in the name of the queen.

Yeah steal a Jewel and pay a peanut... HOW NICE!!!!

And still, whome does SL reach when they end up in biig time BOP defecits every year? Who is Mahinda begging at the moment to get money to run the country?

1. UK is not our biggest donor.. our biggest donors are China and Japan, they both are from Asia

2. Why we have to rely on aids today? who created all this problems in the first place?

3. Why only Mahinda? Do you think he can develop the 3 decades WAR torn country in 4 years?

SL cant stand up becuase of its utterly corrupted leaders and administration, and the attitude of people.

Though SL got its independance, still its an informal colony.

Partially Agreed!

We need to develop our attitude and other things TRUE!

And it is also true we are an informal colony.... why are we an informal colony? because all the while when they were colonizing us they made sure that they would plant those seeds that would make us their informal colony even long after they've gone... that's why... SO if you say that if there were no British we would not have developed this much... you are utterly mistaken!!!

 

[sri_lion]

Freelance Comic
no more conversation here..i ve wasted about one hour replying him today

1 Hour? Are you mad?

You could have given a bath to your dog!

 

[siri24]

Are you f*cking kidding me?

Do you think if British never laid raiways we would never have railways?

Do you think if British never laid bridges we would never have bridges?

Do you think if they had never found that TEA can be grown here, we would never find out ourselves?

Have you been to Anuradhapura Polonnaruwa for a change?

We built things when they were in their great great grandfathers balls

If they had not come here to disrupt our peaceful livelihood we wouldn't have this WAR for nearly 3 decades, with TEA they bought Tamils here... planted them gave them privileges that Sinhalese never had....... killed Sinhalese..... used Tamils to spy on us... and ultimately grew hatred among the 2 races... is that NOT enough reason for you???? Dont you know when English left they left that cancer here!

You are so pathetic!! You can go and give your lectures on a street coffee talk mate.... don't make people laugh here!

Niyamai..

Hats off .....

 

[sachii]

Yep
i ve fed up already sis..i had enough boiling in the other thread

here dont give up. they want us to do that. Just prove your points as you feel.

 

[amila_90210]

1 Hour? Are you mad?

You could have given a bath to your dog!

Hey don't insult ma my poor dog... he no need of 1 hour shower..he is pretty clean

 

[prasadana2]

so any one thinks they will pay them?? they are on a economic crysics..

 

[prasadana2]

if British didnt come to our country what would 2009 be like now??
it would be like Africa...and as a teen ager i dont see a damage done to sl by them...
i dont understand..and this is really a bad thing from my point of view..coz we use there technology today..this thing will lead sinhala people to a blacklist where they will not be able to get a visa even to another country..some people are Dum Heads...

 

[amila_90210]

if British didnt come to our country what would 2009 be like now??
it would be like Africa...and as a teen ager i dont see a damage done to sl by them...
i dont understand..and this is really a bad thing from my point of view..coz we use there technology today..this thing will lead sinhala people to a blacklist where they will not be able to get a visa even to another country..some people are Dum Heads...

 

[westpra]

Para suddo hinda apita labuna dewal walata wada ahimi wechcha de wedi... api jathi washayen bedeema patan gaththe un hindai...

 

[Mal Aiyya]

Ofcourse they were capable because remember they had colonies all over the world... we are talking about enormous amount of expertize and financial capabilities here!

They did not build them because they loved us dude, they built them because they had a profit from it, they may have built them but they also made good money for themselves! Isn't it?

Exactly,thats what was pointed out that SL lacked and is still lacking. The major capital wealth, expertise, the resources etc. Where would have Sri Lanka found all that being that constrictive? If SL was able to do it at some time, why is it still begginig other economies? All those dont happen over night, the country has to work for it over a long period of time, and specially change its policies.

Of course they didnt build it becuase they loved us, I know that. Maybe they got something for themselves, but at what expense to SL? What, so gigantic that makes you to talk for all these, did SL loose out of colonization? Was it exposed to slave trade? Did the invaders burn the country down? Did they ruin what was already there in the country (If any) ? The marginal social benefit is much greater than the Marginal social costs of the colonization. Which shows the large positive externalities that were there, which SL is till enjoying todate. You cant expect the British or whoever to do all that for free...

Dont bring in corruption and laziness... which is not what we are talking about here.. we are talking about the negative impact British colonization had on Sri Lanka.... If you talk that way.. please remember Sri Lanka has also has built bridges in recent times on record duration, also it wasn't British who built every skyscraper that you see in Colombo today!

English did this all because there was an urge to do so!

Why the corruption and attitudes of the people was brought was becasue those are one of the key factors that can either ruin or build a country.
Talking about your project(s) that were completed ahead of due time, how many similar cases are there? One can count all that with just the fingers in one hand, but talking about the British, in this context, how many major infrastructure add-ons did they do? How long were they ruling SL? And yet look at the quality of their works...

English did not invent TEA

Tea was in Asia long time before it reached Sri Lanka Before Sri Lanka it was the Chinese whom were the leading manufacturer, English only bought it here....

See what happened... if English never colonized us, we would maybe at a later stage would grow tea by ourselves, without all this mess created by them!

Sure they bought tea a bit early, but they went back after setting a fire of civil war that would last for the next 3 decades... ever thought how much that would cost? Now compare that with Railway track or bunch of bridges they built.. which would be cheaper? C'mon dude!!

Whose point was it that SL would have found tea?

Do you think if they had never found that TEA can be grown here, we would never find out ourselves?

Even if Tea was there, how do you think the tea industry is still thriving? Its because of the techniques and administration together with the disciplenary that the British brought which is still taking the tea industry. Thank god it didnt go to the hands of the government much, becuase it is at the hand of the private sector, is why it is still continuing at this rate. But one would see the potential of the industry to grow at the hands of the British again. The War was an outbreak because of the misleadings by corrupted politicians, and their wrong guidance. Infact they were the ons who were urged to do so fr their private benefit. The war is a total political mayham rather than a cultural or ethnic problem. The sinhalese who were involved were pretty groppy enough to take in all the grass like cows, and think it was the correct thing to do by doing stuff like Black July. The grass-root cause of the war today was trigerred by Black July. Your perception about it being caused by the colonization is totally fake. There was a previous thread about this was and its cause in EK which clearly proved this, the link of it will be later posted.

Ofcourse they are in good condition because we maintain them... what.. do you want us to just set fire to them? HAHAHA they were built using our land our resources.. only the technology was theirs..

Tell me something... Do you think... if English never build those railways, we would never have any today? Honestly do you think so?

Whose idea was to burn them down? Try doing it, I wonder if it had happened, whether S would be even in the maps today.
Of course they used SL resources, but they had the brains. You need both to get something done. (Basic commerce, Factors of Production). Even maintaing them today in SL is a big deal , and the railway department is running under losses, still see how many cases of trains going off track are recorded per year? Results of good maintenance??
Of course the SL would have never built a railway network so durable and long lasting like the British did. I am not putting down the SL and its community, but its the proven truth. You cant say no to it.

Look at countries like India, how much of colonization did they face? Of course YES their country was "SUCKED OUT" as you would say, HEAVILY. Compared to India, SL is more fulfilled of natural resources and beauty, and climate. And both nations got independace almost togethr.
Now look at their growth. their GDP, their wealth, power...despite being corrupted as SL also...

 

[Mal Aiyya]

if British didnt come to our country what would 2009 be like now??
it would be like Africa...and as a teen ager i dont see a damage done to sl by them...
i dont understand..and this is really a bad thing from my point of view..coz we use there technology today..this thing will lead sinhala people to a blacklist where they will not be able to get a visa even to another country..some people are Dum Heads...

Yes. You see the reality

 

[sachii]

Para suddo hinda apita labuna dewal walata wada ahimi wechcha de wedi... api jathi washayen bedeema patan gaththe un hindai...

 

[sachii]

if British didnt come to our country what would 2009 be like now??
it would be like Africa...and as a teen ager i dont see a damage done to sl by them...
i dont understand..and this is really a bad thing from my point of view..coz we use there technology today..this thing will lead sinhala people to a blacklist where they will not be able to get a visa even to another country..some people are Dum Heads...

me inne thawath kalu suddek

 

[siri24]

if British didnt come to our country what would 2009 be like now??
it would be like Africa...and as a teen ager i dont see a damage done to sl by them...
i dont understand..and this is really a bad thing from my point of view..coz we use there technology today..this thing will lead sinhala people to a blacklist where they will not be able to get a visa even to another country..some people are Dum Heads...

 

[Mal Aiyya]

Again time is not the problem here... its a problem of can do or cannot without them... ofcourse we did, how can you say which is quality which is not? if they were made to last then how come they came off during Tsunami in the first place?

Now we use "Concrete Colomns" on our rail tracks, new technology "Cement" is much cheaper, environmentally friendly, strong...... HAHAHA C'mon dude!!!

Why isnt time a problem? Dont be childish. If you dont have what ever you need in due time, what bloody use is in it? Sri Lanka can have all the military weapons in another 5years time, but what use is it when SL is presently experiencing an extreme war? And the railway tracks came off because there was a train fully loaded on it, did you see or hear of any railway tracks that were unoccupied at the moment of the Tsunami being damaged that heavily?

HAHAHA desptie its age eh? Erm... Ruwanwelisaya was built in 2nd Century BC (Still standing today, oops where were the Brits?), now lets see..... when was Galle Fort built? 17th Century? HAHAHA GO FLY A KITE MAN!!!

The Tsunami was one of the major catastrophes that SL has ever faced so far, and did I say the fort came off during the Tsunami? My point was the opposite, it had some minor damages, but all in all it was okay. Now that building is almost 400years old, and to the strength of the Tsunami, it stood pretty well. Did the Ruwanwali saaya face any Tsunami? No, it is built in a perfect condition with the best of climates where even weathering is least likely, I doubt how much of strength it would have to face a Tsunami......

Yeah steal a Jewel and pay a peanut... HOW NICE!!!!

The problem is, did SL even have this peanut?? Something is better than nothing. And that was a start, and the only start ever in my opinion.

1. UK is not our biggest donor.. our biggest donors are China and Japan, they both are from Asia

2. Why we have to rely on aids today? who created all this problems in the first place?

3. Why only Mahinda? Do you think he can develop the 3 decades WAR torn country in 4 years?

1. The UK is not the biggest donor of SL, but are extremely infulential over the donors of SL. For example the IMF, UK has a major infulence over it.

2. Why SL is relying on these are because of the dirty politicians and high rated corruption within the country, and especially the lazy attitudes of the people becasue of whome the country's productivity has gone down. If SL was able to produce on its own, increase its GDP, it wold have the power to give others.

3. Mahinda was just a current example, there were many in the history. Dont pick on silly points of yours like this just to gain your stance. Its not working

Partially Agreed!

We need to develop our attitude and other things TRUE!

And it is also true we are an informal colony.... why are we an informal colony? because all the while when they were colonizing us they made sure that they would plant those seeds that would make us their informal colony even long after they've gone... that's why... SO if you say that if there were no British we would not have developed this much... you are utterly mistaken!!!

OK, so your point is that SL on its own could do miracles. Tell me, how much of a progress has the country made on its own after independance? In my opinion, its stagnated, and maybe, gone down further to-date. If your point is that the development was disrupted by the warfare, then first thing, its the mistake of the politicians and the foolish community, and secondly, if the war damaged the developement, how much of a progress did SL make during the ceasefire? Was this progress so great, that it atleast managed to double the GDP of the country during those two years?

 

[sri_lion]

Exactly,thats what was pointed out that SL lacked and is still lacking. The major capital wealth, expertise, the resources etc. Where would have Sri Lanka found all that being that constrictive? If SL was able to do it at some time, why is it still begginig other economies? All those dont happen over night, the country has to work for it over a long period of time, and specially change its policies.

That's because SL didn't invade other's lands by force, and we expected others to do the same.. I hope you know how many colonies British had at the time, don't under estimate the network they had.. they also gained knowledge, and expertize and money through these channels.. why? all because they were adventurous at any cost.. even if they had to take other's lands by force... is this what you accept too?

Tell me something.... is UK totally free of corruption?

Of course they didnt build it becuase they loved us, I know that. Maybe they got something for themselves, but at what expense to SL? What, so gigantic that makes you to talk for all these, did SL loose out of colonization? Was it exposed to slave trade? Did the invaders burn the country down? Did they ruin what was already there in the country (If any) ? The marginal social benefit is much greater than the Marginal social costs of the colonization. Which shows the large positive externalities that were there, which SL is till enjoying todate. You cant expect the British or whoever to do all that for free...

We could have stopped 30 years of WAR how does that sounds like.. now you do the math!

Why the corruption and attitudes of the people was brought was becasue those are one of the key factors that can either ruin or build a country.
Talking about your project(s) that were completed ahead of due time, how many similar cases are there? One can count all that with just the fingers in one hand, but talking about the British, in this context, how many major infrastructure add-ons did they do? How long were they ruling SL? And yet look at the quality of their works...

Dont talk about quality of things.. I have already given an real life explanation for it... besides quality today can bearchived by anyone if you are willing to pay the price and remember when English came here we were a self sustaining nation, we had enough economic balance to live our lives!

Whose point was it that SL would have found tea?

What?

Even if Tea was there, how do you think the tea industry is still thriving? Its because of the techniques and administration together with the disciplenary that the British brought which is still taking the tea industry. Thank god it didnt go to the hands of the government much, becuase it is at the hand of the private sector, is why it is still continuing at this rate. But one would see the potential of the industry to grow at the hands of the British again. The War was an outbreak because of the misleadings by corrupted politicians, and their wrong guidance. Infact they were the ons who were urged to do so fr their private benefit. The war is a total political mayham rather than a cultural or ethnic problem. The sinhalese who were involved were pretty groppy enough to take in all the grass like cows, and think it was the correct thing to do by doing stuff like Black July. The grass-root cause of the war today was trigerred by Black July. Your perception about it being caused by the colonization is totally fake. There was a previous thread about this was and its cause in EK which clearly proved this, the link of it will be later posted.

Do you think TEA industry is still thriving in SL because of English?

Why do you think Sri Lanka tea is still the best? because the natual elements more than any other element... if not do you think CHINA or Japan is technologically less advance than us?

You can never take away that fine environment in Sri Lanka which is the most ideal to grow tea in the while world... English being here or not being here doesn't really matter they can't steal that! With or without English Sri Lankan tea will be the same

Whose idea was to burn them down? Try doing it, I wonder if it had happened, whether S would be even in the maps today.
Of course they used SL resources, but they had the brains. You need both to get something done. (Basic commerce, Factors of Production). Even maintaing them today in SL is a big deal , and the railway department is running under losses, still see how many cases of trains going off track are recorded per year? Results of good maintenance??
Of course the SL would have never built a railway network so durable and long lasting like the British did. I am not putting down the SL and its community, but its the proven truth. You cant say no to it.

Because Railway department runs in losses man... why?
because govt. cannot hike the price of a Railway ticket.. Why?
because majority poor people, students still uses train? why?
because we are a poor country? why?
back to square one.. we were suppressed by these colonizations when it was our time to grow and finally when they went away a WAR started as a by product of their colonization

WAKE UP!!! Don't spit everything that comes to your mind just because you woke up in the 21st century it certainly did not start there

Look at countries like India, how much of colonization did they face? Of course YES their country was "SUCKED OUT" as you would say, HEAVILY. Compared to India, SL is more fulfilled of natural resources and beauty, and climate. And both nations got independace almost togethr.
Now look at their growth. their GDP, their wealth, power...despite being corrupted as SL also...

Ha? So you are saying India is better than SL? HAHAHAHA

Do you have any idea about the deficit between the RICH and POOR in India? India should be ashamed of themselves about it considering the resources in both human terms and natural terms they have!

Also please read some statistics of Quality of living between the 2 countries.. you'll be surprised to know the difference!