Know Islam one question at a time

[Mujaahid]

are u an athiest?

its up to me

 

[diamonddrago]

Let me rephrase the question.

For Christians it is common sense that their GOD is the one GOD.
For Hindus it is common sense that Brahma is the ultimate GOD.
For pestafarians it is common sense that FSM is the creator.

They all believe that there cannot be many GODS but only one GOD. But each claim that their definition of the GOD is the correct one.

If GOD is one, and if all the theist religions are correct(Each claim this) then it must be that everyone's worshiping the same GOD. That is Allah, Christian GOD and the FSM is the same. This claim is based upon the fact that no party can prove or disprove that their GOD is the true one.

However it can be seen that there are claims saying Allah is the true GOD. It is ok to believe there can be only one GOD, but why do you believe the one GOD is Allah? It can be also FSM.

you are right.....to each religion it would be their own God....they view as the true God....

but in Islam the message is (just gaze thru the next line....saying it out loud and if you mean it you could BE a Muslims....XD)...."there is no god but Allah & Muhammad(pbuh) is the messenger of God"

the only religion that had Muhammad as a messenger is Islam....

Islam also views Jesus as a prophet...so it does with Moses..Abraham etc....

infact Islam believes it was the predominant religion...through out time...even since the time of Adam.....but that got twisted into other religions.... like Christianity....Jewish etc...

infact the Quran says....any religion that worships one God....in the way of spirit (not praying before a stone figure etc)..... and do good...this religion can be Islam as well.....Christianity and Jewish are two examples that get mentioned all over the Quran in same context....

now do you Islam says God is the one true God....it becomes even more clear when you consider now incomplete the old testament new testament and are...including the torah (jewish book)....if you read the torah in conjunction with the Quran...a lot of point would become clear....

 

[brave]

its up to me

i wanted to know it to reply ur question.

 

[Mujaahid]

i wanted to know it to reply ur question.

i think its not. if i ask who creat god is it depend on my religion or confused???

 

[කිඹුලා බනිස්]

සිංහල ඉස්ලාමයෙහි අභියෝගය | The challenge of Sinhalese-Islam

Posted by Taboo on May 27, 2010
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කවර හෝ ආගමක් (මාක්ස්වාදයද ඇතුළුව) පූර්ණ ලෙස විද්‍යාත්මක හෝ තාර්කික වේය සිතන්නෝ දුහුනෝය. ආගම් නිර්මාණය වී ඇත්තේ නැණවතුන්ගේ බුද්ධි වර්ධනයට වඩා මෝඩයින්ගේ විනය පවත්වා ගැනීම සඳහාය. ඉස්ලාමය ඊට හොඳම නිදර්ශනයකි.
ඉස්ලාමය මේ වන විට ලෝකයේ භාවිතා වන ප්‍රමුඛ ආගම් අතුරින් අතාර්කිකම හා අවිද්‍යාත්මකම ආගමය. (උදා: ගව මස් කා ඌරු මස් නොකන්නැයි කීමේ ඇති තර්කයක් හෝ විද්‍යාවක් නැත.) එසේම එය දළදඬූ ආගමකි. වර්තමානයේදී සකල සමයාන්තර වැඩිම මානව-ඝට්ඨනෝත්පාදක (conflict-inflicting) ආගම සේද ඉස්ලාමය සැලකිය හැකිය. වසර තිහ හතළිහකට ඉහත මාක්ස්වාදය තම විශ්කම්භීය එදිරි දෘෂ්ඨිය සේ දුටු බටහිර ලෝකය දැන් එතැනට ඉස්ලාමය ආදේශ කොට සිටියි. ඒ හේතූන් ඇතිවය. මේ මොහොතෙහි ‘ගෝලීය ධනවාදයට’ වැඩිම තර්ජනයක් එල්ල වන්නේ මාක්ස්වාදයෙන් නොව ඉස්ලාමයෙනි. මේ මාක්ස්වාදයෙන් එල්ලවූවාක් බඳු දාර්ශනික තර්ජනයක් නොවතුදු නොසලකා නොහැරිය හැකිය.
ඉස්ලාමය මේ ඉරණමට මුහුණ දීම අවාසනාවන්ත වෙතත් අහම්බයක් නොවේ. හැම අනම්‍ය ආගමක්ම පාහේ තම පරිණාමයේ යම් අවදියකදී දෘඪ ලක්ෂණ පළ කරයි. එක් යුගයක කිතු දහම යුද්ධ රාශියක මූල බීජය වූයේය. යේසුස්ගේ නාමයෙන් මරු වැළඳ ගත්තෝ මිලියන ගණනකි. (පූර්ණ නිරවද්‍යතාව විවාදාපන්න වුවද ඩැන් බ්‍රවුන්ගේ The Da Vinci Code මේ පිළිබඳ සවිස්තර වාර්තාවක් සපයයි.) එසේ වීම යේසුස්ගේ හෝ ‘දෙවියන් වහන්සේගේ’ වරදක් නොව එය ඇදහූ ජන සමාජය නූතන නොවීම පිළිබඳ ගැටළුවකි. කිතුණු ප්‍රජාවට ඉන් මිදී ස්වකීය ආගම සමාජ ප්‍රගමණයට බාධාවක් නොවන ධර්මයක් කරගත හැකි වූයේ මධ්‍යතන යුගයේදී ආරම්භ වූ රෙපරමා (reforms) ගණනකින් පසුවය. මේ රෙපරමා විසින් රෝමයේ කතෝලික පල්ලියේ තනි ආධිපත්‍යය අභියෝගයට ලක් කෙරුණු අතර රෙපරමාදු, ප්‍රොතෙස්තන්ත, මෙතෝදිස්ත, ඇන්ග්ලිකන් වශයෙන් නිකාය ගණනාවකට ඒ මධ්‍යගත බලය බෙදා දෙනු ලැබිණි. මෙහි අනිවාර්ය ප්‍රතිඵලය වූයේ එක් එක් නිකායට සාපේක්ෂව නිදහස් හැසිරීමක් ලැබීම තුළින් කිතු දහමේ නම්‍යතාවය (flexibility) ඉහළ යෑමයි. පාප්ගේ කතෝලික ආධිපත්‍යය නොපිළිගන්නකුට වුව ඉන්පසුව වෙනත් නිකායෙක සාමාජිකයකු වන්නට බාධාවක් නොවීය. එසේම දේශය (nation) යන සංකල්පයේ ආරම්භයත් සමඟ මිනිසුන් ආගමින් ඈත්කොට ඔවුන්ගේ සමර්පණය (dedication) වෙනත් දිශාවකට යොමු කරණු ලැබිණි. ඉන් පෙර යුරෝපීයයන් සටන් කළේ ගෝත්‍රික නායකයා/රජු හෝ ආගම වෙනුවෙනි. ඉන්පසු එය රට වෙනුවෙන් සටන් කිරීමකට පරිවර්තනය විය. මෙහි ඍජු ප්‍රතිඵලය වසර දහස් ගණනක් තිස්සේ පරම්පරාවෙන් පරම්පරාවට ගෙන යන, වැරදි අරුත් දැක්වීම් වලට ඇතිතරම් ප්‍රස්ථාවන් ඇති ග්‍රන්ථයකට මූලධර්මවාදීව වහල් වෙනවාට වඩා අවබෝධයෙන් යුතුව, පිළිකෙව් කළ යුතු දේ පිළිකෙව් කොට, ආගම ඇදහීමට ක්‍රිස්තු භක්තිකයින්ට ඉඩ ලැබීමයි. තවදුරටත්, අන්තවාදී අතළොස්සක් හැර, පොදු කිස්තු භක්තිකයා ‘දෙවියන් වහන්සේ විසින් ලෝකය නිර්මාණය කිරීම’ බයිබලයේ එන ආකාරටම විශ්වාස නොකරන්නේ එහෙයිනි. ඉස්ලාමයෙහි අල්ලාහ් මෙන් නොව ක්‍රිස්තු භක්තිකයන් අතර ‘දෙවියන් වහන්සේ’ සම්බන්ධ විහිළු රාශියක් ගෙතී ඇත්තේද, පොදු ක්‍රිස්තු භක්තිකයා ඒ ගැන උපේක්ෂාවෙන් බලන්නේද එහෙයිනි. ඉස්ලාම් භක්තිකයින්ට සල්මාන් රුෂ්ඩිගේ The Satanic Verses ප්‍රශ්නයක් වූ ලෙස ක්‍රිස්තු භක්තිකයින්ට The Da Vinci Code ප්‍රශ්නයක් නොවූයේ එහෙයිනි. තව දුරටත් කිතු දහම යුද්ධෝත්පාදක නොවන්නේද එහෙයිනි.
ඉස්ලාමයෙහි අභාග්‍යය එය කවර හෝ කාලයෙක මෙවන් රෙපරමා වලට ලක්ව නොතිබීමයි. එනිසා එහි ආරම්භක මූලධර්මවාදී (fundamentalist) ස්වභාවය තවමත් එසේම නොනැසී පවත්නේය. මෙය ඉස්ලාම් භක්තිකයන් දකින්නේ ස්වකීය ආගමෙහි ප්‍රබලම අංගය ලෙසය. එහෙත් මැදහත්ව හා ප්‍රායෝගිකව සිතන්නකු දකිනු ඇත්තේ මෙය ඉස්ලාමයෙහි ලොකුම දුර්වලතාව බවය. මෙයද සර්වබලධාරී ‘අල්ලාහ් දෙවියන් වහන්සේගේ’ හෝ මහම්මද්ගේ වරදක් සේ හඳුනාගත යුතු නැත. ආගම් අදහන්නෝ පුහුදුන් මිනිස්සුය.
මේ දීර්ඝ අටුවාව අවශ්‍ය වන්නේ ඉතිහාසයෙහි පළමු වතාවට සිංහල ඉස්ලාමයක් බිහිවන පරිසරය හඳුනාගනු පිණිසය.
සිංහල ඉස්ලාමයක් බිහිවීම පුදුමයට කාරණාවක් නොවේ. සැබැවින්ම එය විය යුතුව තිබුණේ සියවස් ගණනකට ඉහත, පෙර රජ දවස මහම්මදිකයින් මෙරට ස්ථිර පදිංචිකරුවන් වූ අවදියේදීය. උදාහරණයක් හැටියට කිතුණු දහම සිංහලීකරණයේ ආරම්භය පෘතුගීසි යුගය දක්වාම දිවෙන්නකි. සියවසෙකට ඉහතදීත් පල්ලියේදී සුවාමි සිංහලයින් වෙනුවෙන් යාඥා කළේ සිංහලෙනි. දෙමළුන් වෙනුවෙන් දෙමළෙනි. යුරෝපීය භාෂාවෙකින් නොවේ. ඉස්ලාමය මෙසේ සිංහලීකරණය නොවූයේ කලින් කී දෘඪ බව නිසා විය යුතුය. අදත් “අල්ලාහු අක්බර්…” කියන්නේ දෙමළෙන්වත් සිංහලෙන් වත් නොවේ.
පමාවී හෝ ඉස්ලාමය සිංහලීකරණය (=දේශීයකරණය ) වීම ගැන අපට සතුටු විය නොහැක්කේ එය එසේ වන්නේ තම සහජ දෘඪ ලක්ෂණ එකක් වත් අත නොහැර දමමින් නිසාය. කිතුදහම දේශීයකරණය වූ හැම කල්තරයෙකම එය වූයේ එකී කල්තරයන්හි යම් යම් අංග ආදේශ කරගනිමිනි. එසේම ඒ ඒ රටවල පැවති ආගමයන්ට ඍජු අභියෝග නොකරමිනි. ජාකොබ් ගොන්සාල්වේස්ලා, ෆ්‍රැන්සිස් සේවියර්ලා සිය දහම ප්‍රචාරය කිරීමට දේශීය කල්තරයෙන් උකහාගත් යම් යම් දේ (සංගීතය හා භාෂාවද ඇතුළුව) උපයෝගී කොට ගත්තා මිසෙක පවත්නා හින්දු හෝ බෞද්ධ ආගම් වලට ඍජුව අභියෝග කරන තැනකට ගියේ නොවේ. පානදුරාවාදය බඳු මතවාදී ගැටුම් ඇති වුවද ඒ කිසිවක් අතින් පයින් බේරා ගන්නා තරමට දුර ඇදී නොගියේ එනිසාය. සිංහල කිතුණු කල්තරයක් ගැන අපට කතා කිරීමට ඉඩ ලැබී ඇත්තේ එනිසාය.
වත්මන් ‘සිංහල ඉස්ලාමයෙහි’ නයුවන් වන අන්වර් මනතුංගලාගේ ක්‍රමෝපායයන් ඉඳුරා වෙනස්ය. ඉස්ලාමය පිළිබඳ අවබෝධයක් ලබා දෙනවා වෙනුවට මනතුංගලාට අවශ්‍යව ඇත්තේ බුද්ධාගම (හා බුද්ධ ධර්මය) අභියෝගයට ලක් කිරීමය. (පහත වීඩියෝව බලන්න.)

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අද අපේ රටේ ඇදහෙන ආකාරයට ‘සිංහල-බුද්ධාගම’ යනු ගෞතමයන් විසින් වදාළ දහමින් බොහෝ ඈත, මිථ්‍යා මතයන්ගෙන් ගහණ එකක් බව අමුතුවෙන් කිවමනා නොවේ. බෞද්ධ දර්ශනයේ හරය හා ඇදහීම අතර වෙනස අද ලක්ෂ ගණන් ජනතාව ‘බුදුරැස් මැජික්’ බලන්නට එක් රොක් වන තැනට විස්තාරණය වී ඇත. එහෙත් ඊටත් වඩා මිථ්‍යාවන්ගෙන් ගහණ විකල්ප ආගමක් ප්‍රචාරය කිරීමට තැත් කරන මනතුංගලාට එය ගැටළුවක් විය යුත්තේද? බෞද්ධයින් ඉස්ලාමයෙහි මූලධර්මවාදී කාරණා ගැන කථා නොකරන පරිසරයක් තුළ මනතුංගලාට බුද්ධ ධර්මයෙහි මූලධර්මවාදී කාරණා ගැන කතා කිරීමට ඇති අවශ්‍යතාව කවරේද?
මෙයින්ද එපිටට ගොස් ‘සිංහල බෞද්ධයින්’ හා ඕනෑකමින්ම කොක්කක් ඇද ගැනීමේ උවමනාව දීර්ඝ කාලයක් තිස්සේ සිවුරෙහි හිඳ එය හැරගියකු ඉස්ලාම් ආගම ප්‍රචාරණයට යොදා ගැනීමෙන් පෙනේ. (පහත වීඩියෝව – මෙය ඇඳුතු වීඩියෝ ක්ලිප් පහකින් පළමුවැන්නය. ඉතිරිවා You Tubeහි අන්තර්ගතය.)

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ඕනෑම කෙනකුට තම ආගම වෙනස් කිරීමට ඇති අයිතිය සේම එය ප්‍රසිද්ධියේ පිළිගැනීමට ඇති අයිතියටද අප ගරු කළ යුත්තේ ඒ මූලික මිනිස් අයිතීන් සේ සලකාය. එහෙත් ඇමතිකමකට හා ධන ධාන්‍යයට ලොබ බැඳ ආණ්ඩුවට පනින යූ එන් පී ගෙම්බෙකු දේශයට ඇති ආදරය නිසාම මේ තීරණය ගත්තාය කියනු ඇසීමේදී දැනෙන අපුලම අපට මෙහිදී දැනේ. ආගම වෙනස් කිරීම සාධාරණීකරණයට මේ පුද්ගලයා දෙන හේතුන්ගේ බොළඳ බව මොහොතකට සලකන්න. වැසි වැසීමේ ක්‍රියාවලිය නොතේරුණු පමණින් ආගම් වෙනස් කරන්නෝත් වෙතිද? වැසි වැස්සවීම අවශ්‍යයෙන්ම කවුරුන් විසින් හෝ කළ යුතුය සිතන්නේ නම් නුදුටු අල්ලාහ් විසින් එය කරනු ලබන්නේය යන මිථ්‍යාව වෙනුවට නොදුටු බෞද්ධ දේවතාවන් විසින් එය කරන්නේය යන වඩා සමීප මිථ්‍යාව කරා එළඹීමට ඔහු තැත් නොකරන්නේ ඇයි?
අපේ රටේ බෞද්ධයින් සේ හැඳින්වෙන සියල්ලන් බෞද්ධ දර්ශනයෙහි සැබෑ හරය වටහාගත්තවුන් නම් මනතුංගලා මොන තරම් බයිලා කීවත් එය ගැටළුවක් නොවේ. මෙබඳු බොළඳ, අතාර්කික කතා වලින් සැලෙන්නට තරම් ගෞතමයන්ගේ ධර්මය සැබෑ ලෙස අනුගමණය කරන්නෝ මුග්ධයෝ නොවෙති. “මුන්ට අර පයිත්තියන්” කියා ඔවුන් එය දණින් උඩට නොගනු ඇත්තේය. නමුත් හැම ආගමකම සේම දර්ශනයෙහි හරය අවබෝධ නොකොටගෙන අන්ධානුභක්තියෙන් කටයුතුකරන අඥාණයෝ අද අපේ රටේ බෞද්ධයින්ය කියාගන්නා පිරිස අතරෙහිද වෙති. මෙවැනි කතාවලින් අධෝ මාර්ගයට ගැටැති මුගුරක් ඇතුළු කළාක් මෙන් දැඩි ලෙස රිදෙනු ඇත්තේ ඔවුන්ටය. දැනටම සිංහල ඉස්ලාමයට එරෙහිව මහා පරිමාණ රිටර්න් එකක් ආරම්භ වී ඇත්තේ එනිසාය. මේ ක්‍රියාවෙහි හා ප්‍රතික්‍රියාවෙහි අවසානය ගැන අපට සිතිය නොහැක්කේ මෝඩයින් දෙපිරිසක් ඇවිළුණු විට එය කොයි අතකට යාද අල්ලාහ්ටවත් සිතන්නට නොහැකි නිසාය. අපි ඒ මඩ සටනෙහි නිරීක්ෂකයෝ පමණක් වෙමු.
මෙබඳු මුග්ධ ක්‍රියා නිසා, ජාතික දේශපාලනයේදී කෙසේ වෙතත් ගම් මට්ටමේදී තවමත් නොපළුදු වී ඇති සිංහල මුස්ලිම් සබඳතා පළුදු වුවහොත් අන්වර් මනතුංගලා පළමුවද පෙරමුණේරාළලා දෙවනුවද ඒ වගකීමද ගනු ඇතැයි අපි අපේක්ෂා කරමු. කවුදෝ කීවාක් මෙන් අපට තාමත් අඩුවකට තිබුණේ මුස්ලිම් ප්‍රභාකරන් කෙනකු පමණය. මේ යන විදියට එවැන්නකු පහළ වීමද හුදෙක් රෑ මැදියමේ දකින භයානක සිහිනයක් පමණක්ම නොවනු ඇත්තේය.




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[AncientGlory]

i dont know ur an atheist or not but tell me how u prove (without using science)that god not exist.

I did not say GOD does not exit.

 

[AncientGlory]

you are right.....to each religion it would be their own God....they view as the true God....

but in Islam the message is (just gaze thru the next line....saying it out loud and if you mean it you could BE a Muslims....XD)...."there is no god but Allah & Muhammad(pbuh) is the messenger of God"

the only religion that had Muhammad as a messenger is Islam....

Islam also views Jesus as a prophet...so it does with Moses..Abraham etc....

infact Islam believes it was the predominant religion...through out time...even since the time of Adam.....but that got twisted into other religions.... like Christianity....Jewish etc...

infact the Quran says....any religion that worships one God....in the way of spirit (not praying before a stone figure etc)..... and do good...this religion can be Islam as well.....Christianity and Jewish are two examples that get mentioned all over the Quran in same context....

now do you Islam says God is the one true God....it becomes even more clear when you consider now incomplete the old testament new testament and are...including the torah (jewish book)....if you read the torah in conjunction with the Quran...a lot of point would become clear....

Ok, to sum it up..

The reason you know your GOD is the true GOD is because it is written in your book?

 

[brave]

i think its not. if i ask who creat god is it depend on my religion or confused???

i wanted to know as what is the state of u about god in ur mind.if ur an atheist u wont believe in god and and if ur a buddhist u will believe in many gods and demons.

also if ur a buddhist u cant proof anything using science such as nivana,heaven earth or the demons,gods mantioned in ur religion...can u?

and for an athiest i wanted to know can he proove that god doesn't exist without using science.

u know y?????????????????????????????????????????/coz science is not perfect.it always discover new things and change by time.once they told there are only 8 planets;..again 9 and 10...so science always changing.i do believe in science but not as a perfect thing to make a final decision.
so as ancientglory(ek member) wanted the definition of god without using the scripture as he dont believe in it i want him to answer the same thng without using science as i dont fully believe in it as a perfect thing.

 

[Mujaahid]

lol.....ah so you did do your research...lol...good.....

this describes the creation of Adam...the first man by God....

"He began the creation of man from dust. Then He made his progeny of an extract of water held in light esteem. Then He made him complete and breathed into him of His spirit and made for you ears and eyes and heart.) (As-Sajdah 32:7-9)"

really amazing what a soil biology. i ask soil biology but i was given quran verses .
see this greek story about creation of human

" one day zeus ask prometheus to make humans to live in the earth. then he picked up some mud. he shaped lumps of it into men and women, and breath on them to make them come alive"

muhammed stolen other cultural myths to create your holly book

now the man after Adam....

We have created you from dust, then from a drop of seed, then from a clot, then from a little lump of flesh shapely and shapeless, that We may make (it) clean for you. And We cause what We will to remain in the wombs for an appointed time

, dust into sperm wow...

LMAO..i love to keep such traps around.....make sure you ppl actually know ur stuff...or to get the questions i want....sorry...bad habit....

bad habbit hmmmm...

 

[brave]

I did not say GOD does not exit.

if u see the start of islam ...people came to islam only by hearing the quran.but nothing prroved scientifically as these days.people got amazed hearing that and they knew that a man couldnt write a poet as nice as quran.the language of quran is so high and pure.there was a system using the language.and prophet was a illiterate person.
ex:
the word " middle " mentioned only at one place in the quran at the exact maddle part of the quran.like that there is a rhythemic mathod as rhymes.
(this is just an example)

so people know prophet muhammed as a faithfull person who never lie.he was honored by people at the time by calling him as the trustworthy and truth worthy (al-ameen/as-sadik). so when he explained about the revelation most believed him.
also it had been mentioned in bible about a upcoming last prophet from a desert.
so those are the reasons why a non believer accepted quran , prophet and the one god.
now many come to Islam because science prove many things which mentioned in quran 1400 years ago.

these are the reason why we use scriptures to prove our god.

i thought ur an atheist coz atheist believe in science and a believer believes in signs of god.
as u use science to prove that there is no god we use scriptures to prove that there is only one god.

 

[Mujaahid]

also if ur a buddhist u cant proof anything using science such as nivana,heaven earth or the demons,gods mantioned in ur religion...can u?

nivana is not a place and its a kind of a final level of improvement of the mind as buddhism said. so its foolish to ask prove nivana from science. as example can science prove that your mind has that much of lust, angry, kindness and so on. first you have to understand what science is. its based on experimentation, observation and final conclusion.

earth dont want to be proven but what about heaven and demons. you knowin upper limit science just only a distance of ten to the power 47 like distance. and from lower boundry its ten to the power -22 some thing like that. if something exist beyond that limit can science prove it.. further und: if you divide something into little peices you will stop @ electrons or nuclie. so the buddha said that gods and demons has very tiny bodies that cant be observe my human eye. and their exist inthis univers. even though the science cant prove that their are field exist in science about ghosts, aliens like things.

u know y?????????????????????????????????????????/coz science is not perfect.it always discover new things and change by time.once they told there are only 8 planets;..again 9 and 10...so science always changing.i do believe in science but not as a perfect thing to make a final decision.

then i wonder why today muslims try to prove quran by science. i saw some words like science miracles in koran, bigban like things.why???
what happen if science change tomorrow, will koran also be boom...

 

[I love Srilanka]

then i wonder why today muslims try to prove quran by science. i saw some words like science miracles in koran, bigban like things.why???
what happen if science change tomorrow, will koran also be boom...[/QUOTE]

I Just want to elaborate one thing here in short.We dont prove Quran with Science,but we would like to prove the science with Quran as non muslim don't agree with Quran,we prove the Quran with established Facts , not with theory such as big bang theory.
and Mashaallah! so far Whatever proved to be fact in science, is exactly matching with Quran. and there r lot of things which is said in Quran ,are to be established by science.I hope science will do in the future...

 

[Mujaahid]

I Just want to elaborate one thing here in short.We dont prove Quran with Science,but we would like to prove the science with Quran as non muslim don't agree with Quran,we prove the Quran with established Facts , not with theory such as big bang theory.
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prove science by quran are you joking

so far Whatever proved to be fact in science, is exactly matching with Quran. and there r lot of things which is said in Quran ,are to be established by science.I hope science will do in the future...

tell me one such thing before science proved it

 

[I love Srilanka]

prove science by quran are you joking

This shows you are not aware about what quran contains, other than critics quotes here connecting with terrorism.

tell me one such thing before science proved it

If you are good debator, u should have put a science established fact which is not matching Quran rather than asking me to put something which is inline with Quran.there are many, i dont know what to put here, anyway see some for example.

01-When I was in school I had learnt(I hope you too) that the earth and the planets they rotate about their axis, but I was taught that the Sun was fixed, it did not rotate about it is own axis. But the Holy Qur'an says in Surah Al-Anbiya, Ch. No. 21, Verse No. 33. It says: (Arabic)… ‘It is Allah who has created the night and the day, (Arabic)… the Sun and the Moon, (Arabic)… each one travelling in a orbit, with its own motion’.... Science only later proved this.

02-Previously we thought that the light of the Moon, is its own light. It is recently we discovered, that the light of the Moon is reflected light of the Sun. The Qur'an says in Surah Furqan, Ch. No. 25, Verse No. 61… ‘Blessed is He who has created the constellations in the sky, and placed therein a lamp, and Moon having borrowed light’. The Qur'an says in Surah Yunus, Ch. No. 10, Verse No. 5… ‘It is Allah who has created the Sun as a shining glory and the Moon having a reflection of light’


03-Holy Qur'an says in Surah Furqan, Ch. No. 25, Verse No 53, ‘It is Allah who has let free two bodies of flowing water one sweet and palpable and the other salt and bitter, and between them there is a ‘Barzakh’, a barrier, which is forbidden to be trespassed’. The Qur'an repeats the message in Surah Rahman, Ch. No. 55, Verse No. 19 and 20, (Arabic)… that ‘It is Allah who has let free two bodies of flowing water which meet and between them there is a barrier which is forbidden to be trespassed’. The Arabic word ‘Barzakh’ means ‘a barrier’ and the Arabic statement… (Arabic) … means ‘the flowing bodies of water, they meet and mix’. Previously the commentators, they could not understand the two opposite description of the two bodies of flowing water. It says, ‘they meet and mix’, as well as it says… ‘there is a barrier between them’. Today we have come to know, with the help of science, that there is a slanting barrier between the two bodies of salt water and sweet water - between the salt sea, and the sweet sea


following are some examples for which mentioned in Quran, not yet established by science yet.

Surah Qiyamah, Ch. 75, Verse No.8 and 9, it says that… ‘the Moon will be burried in darkness - the Sun and the Moon will join together, before the world… our ends’. If you read Surah Takwir, Ch. 81, Verse No. 1 , 2, 3 and & Verse No. 6, it says that… ‘The sun will be folded up, the stars will fall down, the ocean will swell up, the mountains will fall down in utter ruin’. Qur’an says in Surah Infitar, Ch. 82, Verse No. 1, 2 and 3, it says… ‘the sky will be left asunder the star will be scattered, the mountains will be fallen down’. Various signs, how will the earth end is given. These are scientific points mentioned in the Qur’an, which Science has not established yet. For example, the Holy Qur’an also says in Surah Ambiya, Ch. 21, Verse No. 104, that… ‘As We created this creation…We will roll up the Heavens like a scroll is rolled up, and as we created the early creation, We shall create a new creation’. So Qur’an says…‘there is one more creation that is going to be created after the world is destroyed - Science does not know about that. Qur’an says the first man on the earth was Adam (Alai Salam) - Science has not discover that yet. Qur’an speaks about soul - Science has not established that human beings have got soul. The Holy Qur’an also speaks about Jinns, about Spirits, about Angels - Science has not been able to discover that. Qur’an speaks about life after death - Science has not discovered that. Qur’an speaks about ‘Heaven’ and ‘Hell’ - Science has not discovered about that

Brother, If u want more I can give hundreds of example.but what is the use? coz neither you will deny with some logic nor accept it.this is what is happening in this forum.coz no one of you is accepting anything as ego preventing you from accepting the truth.

 

[Mujaahid]

When I was in school I had learnt(I hope you too) that the earth and the planets they rotate about their axis, but I was taught that the Sun was fixed, it did not rotate about it is own axis. But the Holy Qur'an says in Surah Al-Anbiya, Ch. No. 21, Verse No. 33....

which school u have been gone. dont show off your madness friend our teachers clearly state that in our class room. its not your teachers falt thats bcoz you thought that sun was fixed. anyway then why muhhammed told that sun was gone under the throne of allah @ tonite and ask permission to come in the morning. also that chapter 21:33 tell thats its swiming....

Previously we thought that the light of the Moon, is its own light. It is recently we discovered, that the light of the Moon is reflected light of the Sun. The Qur'an says in Surah Furqan, Ch. No. 25, Verse No. 61…

its not a recent discover bro poeple know that bfore thousand years before. greeks specially professional in astrology.
anyway see this
"Blessed is He Who made constellations in the skies, and placed therein a Lamp and a Moon giving light". - so according to your koran verse how that giving light become borrow light.. dont lie on god word.
again you cheated in chapter 10 see
"It is He Who made the sun to be a shining glory and the moon to be a light of beauty" - so how the light of beauty become reflected light. in common sense we all know that light of the moon is soft than the light of the sun.thats the meaning of that koran verse. you liar

Ch. No. 55, Verse No. 19 and 20, (Arabic)… that ‘It is Allah who has let free two bodies of flowing water which meet and between them there is a barrier which is forbidden to be trespassed’,Today we have come to know, with the help of science, that there is a slanting barrier between the two bodies of salt water and sweet water - between the salt sea, and the sweet sea

do u need science to understand the taste different between sea water and normal water. . that chapter indicate the difference of taste between sea water and normal water. tell be that science barrier any way like to know

1.Sun and the Moon will join together,sun will be folded up 2. the stars will fall down, the ocean will swell up, the mountains will fall down in utter ruin, 3.Qur’an says…‘there is one more creation that is going to be created after the world is destroyed - Science does not know about that,4.Qur’an speaks about soul,Qur’an also speaks about Jinns, about Spirits, 5.about Angels - Science has not been able to discover that,6.Qur’an speaks about life after death - Science has not discovered that. Qur’an speaks about ‘Heaven’ and ‘Hell’ - Science has not discovered about that

i didn't thought you are that much of....... . if you read some greek, roman, chinese, indian storis, you can find same prediction. but the problem is scientist will gave the credits to that writers before the quran bcoz they are the early predictors

 

[prasadana2]

are you a son of Cain or Abel ?

 

[I love Srilanka]

which school u have been gone. dont show off your madness friend our teachers clearly state that in our class room. its not your teachers falt thats bcoz you thought that sun was fixed. anyway then why muhhammed told that sun was gone under the throne of allah @ tonite and ask permission to come in the morning. also that chapter 21:33 tell thats its swiming....

I went to a Government school in SL only, I was taught if u need u can see in some years back O/L science text book.I am not aware abt Muahammed........if u can please explain me further so can answer u&but wat chapter 21:33 say is
And it is He who created the night and the day and the sun and the moon; all [heavenly bodies] in an orbit are swimming.
Tafsir al-Jalalayn-Explanation
And He it is Who created the night and the day, and the sun and the moon, each (kullun, the nunation of this [particle] stands in place of the second noun [of the genitive construction] that would have been al-shams, ‘the sun’, or al-qamar, ‘the moon’, or their subsidiaries, namely, al-nujūm, ‘the stars’) in an orbit, a circular [one] like a mill in the sky, swimming, moving with speed, like a swimmer in water. In order to effect the analogy with the latter, the plural person [of the verb employed] for rational beings is used.

its not a recent discover bro poeple know that bfore thousand years before. greeks specially professional in astrology.

See anyone can say anything.all cant be fact, but only guess, to establish a science fact there are some procedures, all statements will not be accepted as fact.A country has two scientist assume X & Y , X scientist is telling tomorrw it will rain and Y scientist is telling it won't rain, when I question you tomorrow whether will it rain? u have to tell me NOT sure only...as there is 2 different opinion.here Quran told already it will rain surely, day after you cant argue with me telling Our X scientist told this, so there no special in your Quran.

anyway see this
"Blessed is He Who made constellations in the skies, and placed therein a Lamp and a Moon giving light". - so according to your koran verse how that giving light become borrow light.. dont lie on god word.
again you cheated in chapter 10 see
"It is He Who made the sun to be a shining glory and the moon to be a light of beauty" - so how the light of beauty become reflected light. in common sense we all know that light of the moon is soft than the light of the sun.thats the meaning of that koran verse. you liar

Why i want to lie here, that also to people like you, by lying you I am not going to get anything from you.whether i give u or not,I know in advance you people never accept anything.the verses u mentioned is different translation.and it is not straightly saying the words,for your reference I attached a site with Thafsir(give more explanation to the Quranic arab words)
http://quran.com/10

do u need science to understand the taste different between sea water and normal water. . that chapter indicate the difference of taste between sea water and normal water. tell be that science barrier any way like to know

Come on man !don't u read something comprehensively? I wasn't saying abt normal water & sea water.but barrier between the salt sea,and sweet sea..I hope u never heard abt this.


i didn't thought you are that much of....... . if you read some greek, roman, chinese, indian storis, you can find same prediction. but the problem is scientist will gave the credits to that writers before the quran bcoz they are the early predictors

All prediction cant be correct, I thought you are a matured person, I over estimated of your knowledge.see greek,roman and others also predicted I know.but out of which they predicted some was correct and even some was wrong also.NO one was 100% perfectly correct, then how come only Quran predicted everything correctly...

 

[I love Srilanka]

TWO RIVERS-SUBHANALLAH-(MUST SEE)


Below Shown Photos are of the two rivers flowing in southern part near Cape Town , South Africa.


These rivers flow together and there nature came to know in the starting of 20th century where as ALLAH (SWT)mentioned the nature of these two rivers in Holy Quran around 1400years Back.


These two river flow together and finally settle down in the Ocean,taste of one river is extreamly sweet whereas the taste of another river is extreamly opposite (that is bitter) but they never mix..There is nothing in between these rivers which stops them from mixing togther but its is the will & order of ALLAH (SWT)

 

[AncientGlory]

if u see the start of islam ...people came to islam only by hearing the quran.but nothing prroved scientifically as these days.people got amazed hearing that and they knew that a man couldnt write a poet as nice as quran.the language of quran is so high and pure.there was a system using the language.and prophet was a illiterate person.
ex:
the word " middle " mentioned only at one place in the quran at the exact maddle part of the quran.like that there is a rhythemic mathod as rhymes.
(this is just an example)

so people know prophet muhammed as a faithfull person who never lie.he was honored by people at the time by calling him as the trustworthy and truth worthy (al-ameen/as-sadik). so when he explained about the revelation most believed him.
also it had been mentioned in bible about a upcoming last prophet from a desert.
so those are the reasons why a non believer accepted quran , prophet and the one god.
now many come to Islam because science prove many things which mentioned in quran 1400 years ago.

these are the reason why we use scriptures to prove our god.

i thought ur an atheist coz atheist believe in science and a believer believes in signs of god.
as u use science to prove that there is no god we use scriptures to prove that there is only one god.

There are so many things wrong about this answer, but I'm not gonna talk about it. Because the point you are trying to make has nothing to do with the my original question.

I did not ask anyone to prove GOD exists. I asked what make you think your GOD is the true GOD? Why can't it be Christian GOD? So it seems like the argument you have is that it is written in quran so my GOD is true. Fine, but bible is an argument to say Christian GOD is the true GOD, Torah says jewish GOD is true. Each of these claims have the same credibility. So I don't really see a reason for anyone to think Allah is the true GOD.

You believe that because you were born muslim and you don't don't know anything better. Other than that you have no claim to say Allah is the one and true GOD.

You try to talk about atheists, but you fail to see that they are so similar to you. There are hundreds of GODs people worship in earth. You don't believe in 99 of them, you only believe in one GOD. Atheists just don't believe in 1 less GOD than you.

The idea I'm trying to convey here is deep. But you will understand it only if you dare to think out of the box for a moment. You have no reason to believe your GOD is the true GOD. All claims of GOD are valid equally. There's no way to prove or no way to disprove. What if Muhhamed was wrong? What if the GODS real prophet is jesus??

And man, a book is not something that you can present as a proof of GOD. If you can't get pass that thinking, no point talking.

 

[prasadana2]

There are so many things wrong about this answer, but I'm not gonna talk about it. Because the point you are trying to make has nothing to do with the my original question.

I did not ask anyone to prove GOD exists. I asked what make you think your GOD is the true GOD? Why can't it be Christian GOD? So it seems like the argument you have is that it is written in quran so my GOD is true. Fine, but bible is an argument to say Christian GOD is the true GOD, Torah says jewish GOD is true. Each of these claims have the same credibility. So I don't really see a reason for anyone to think Allah is the true GOD.

You believe that because you were born muslim and you don't don't know anything better. Other than that you have no claim to say Allah is the one and true GOD.

You try to talk about atheists, but you fail to see that they are so similar to you. There are hundreds of GODs people worship in earth. You don't believe in 99 of them, you only believe in one GOD. Atheists just don't believe in 1 less GOD than you.

The idea I'm trying to convey here is deep. But you will understand it only if you dare to think out of the box for a moment. You have no reason to believe your GOD is the true GOD. All claims of GOD are valid equally. There's no way to prove or no way to disprove. What if Muhhamed was wrong? What if the GODS real prophet is jesus??

And man, a book is not something that you can present as a proof of GOD. If you can't get pass that thinking, no point talking.

and if there is a GOD he can change his word.. he want give a final word rit after all he is god.. this people are brainwashed from birth..
thats the case..