POLYGAMY IN ISLAM

[Wal Bada]

TRY NOT TO DIVERT THE SUBJECT TO ISLAMIC COUNTRIES, MALE:FEMALE RATIO AND NON ISLAMIC COUNTRY MALE:FEMALE RATIO AND DO NOT MAKE THIS PLACE A CONFUSION LIKE YOUR MIND ………….

Let's see who first place started the confusion.

4. Average life span of females is more than that of males

By nature males and females are born in approximately the same ratio. A female child has more immunity than a male child. A female child can fight the germs and diseases better than the male child. For this reason, during the pediatric age itself there are more deaths among males as compared to the females. During wars, there are more men killed as compared to women. More men die due to accidents and diseases than women. The average life span of females is more than that of males, and at any given time one finds more widows in the world than widowers.

5. World female population is more than male population

In the USA, women outnumber men by 7.8 million. New York alone has one million more females as compared to the number of males, and of the male population of New York one-third are gays i.e sodomites. The U.S.A as a whole has more than twenty-five million gays. This means that these people do not wish to marry women. Great Britain has four million more females as compared to males. Germany has five million more females as compared to males. Russia has nine million more females than males. God alone knows how many million more females there are in the whole world as compared to males

Now you have stated that there are more females than males in some countries. I have extended the argument. Now you are reverted to even cheaper tactic of lying. Now you idiot, who started to quote numbers and "divert " the subject?

Here are more of your population statistics being brought up.

6. Restricting each and every man to have only one wife is not practical

Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million females in U.S.A who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays). There would be more than four million females in Great Britain, 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia alone who would not be able to find a husband.Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes 'public property'. There is no other option. All those who are modest will opt for the first.

Most women would nto like to share their husband with other women. But in Islam when the situation deems it really neccessary Muslim women in due faith could bear a small personal loss to prevent a greater loss of letting other Muslim sisters becoming 'public properties'.

Here's another one.

God alone knows how many million more females there are in the whole world as compared to males.

I have shatterd your claims with selective statistics to pieces. Admit that by bringing up stats that you have dugged your own grave, or keep lying

 

[Wal Bada]

BULLSHIT !!!!!! MUSLIMS ARE THE PIONEERS OF MODERN SCIENCE ...... YOU UNDERSTAND

Another fucking hilarious joke.

Chinese are the virtual pioneers of every thing we use. Even the law of relativity was described in China in 1500BC. They had complete data of astronomical events since 1500BC.

Muslims only contributed to a minor part of it what is comparable to Hindus.

 

[booleanB]

Another fucking hilarious joke.

Chinese are the virtual pioneers of every thing we use. Even the law of relativity was described in China in 1500BC. They had complete data of astronomical events since 1500BC.

Muslims only contributed to a minor part of it what is comparable to Hindus.

this must be true

 

[vasana.pathirana]

1. If a man has more than one wife, the parents of the children born of such marriages can easily be identified. The father as well as the mother can easily be identified. In case of a woman marrying more than one husband, only the mother of the children born of such marriages will be identified and not the father. Islam gives tremendous importance to the identification of both parents, mother and father. Psychologists tell us that children who do not know their parents, especially their father undergo severe mental trauma and disturbances. Often they have an unhappy childhood. It is for this reason that the children of prostitutes do not have a healthy childhood.
If a child born of such wedlock is admitted in school, and when the mother is asked the name of the father, she would have to give two or more names! I am aware that recent advances in science have made it possible for both the mother and father to be identified with the help of genetic testing. Thus this point which was applicable for the past may not be applicable for the present.

That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard as an excuse for polygomy!!

2. Man is more polygamous by nature as compared to a woman.

Really? How do you know for sure???

 

[sachith_ak47]

You can drop the civilised brain crap.

Are you ready for another ass whopping?

The data you've presented above means absolutely nothing. Have you even considered the demographics (age, life expectancy) of the population? Are you aware that women outlive men?

In the US the average life expectancy of a woman is 80.5 years, in comparison to the 75.4 year avarage of a man. So women on average outlive men by about 5-6 years in the US. (source: http://www.cdc.gov/nchs/pressroom/05facts/lifeexpectancy.htm)

Now lets move on to an age group by group comparison of gender in the US.

The data below is taken directly from the US census department website, and is accurate as of July 2007. (Source: http://www.census.gov/popest/national/asrh/NC-EST2007/NC-EST2007-01.csv and http://www.census.gov/popest/national/asrh/NC-EST2007-sa.html) Where are the references to your data btw? Is it from an Islamic source that justifies polygamy?


age group women Men
25-29 10281517 10776189
50-54 10721316 10292071
85-89 2271420 1205125
90-94 1057360 445129


This comparison clearly shows that men actually outnumber women in the 25-29 age group, but women start to outnumber men in the older age groups. This is clearly evident from ages 54 and upwards. From age 80 upwards there are nearly twice as much women.

What does that tell you?

The gap in numbers between women and men in the US you referred to occurs in the older generations, perhaps due to women living longer. Are you saying that sinlge women in their 50s, 70s, 80s +++(most of whom are likely to be widowed grandparents) should be married off?

This is likely to be the scenario in most of the European countries you mentioned as well.

So once again, you = EPIC FAIL

Another thing, when you say total gay population in the US, that includes both men and women. Man you are such a tubelight. The figure you gave is roughly 8% of the total population. That obviously includes lesbians as well. So once again you FAIL. Has it also never occured to you that there might be a percentage of women who are not interested in marriage at all? It's a free country and nobody is forced to marry or ridiculed for not marrying



Oh btw, I want to see the sources you referred to when it comes to the data you provided.

welcome 2 EK

 

[nadeeshaF]

CUT THE CRAP AND CHECK THE LINKS....​

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamic_science
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_science_in_the_Middle_Ages
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim_scientists
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_science_and_technology_in_the_Islamic_world"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_science_and_technology_in_the_Islamic_world[/URL]

You've already lost your argument on polygamy saharaz.

These wikipedia articles on Islam and science, probably penned by a zealous muslim like you, aren't going to change a thing, nor do they belong in this topic- they belong right up where the sun don't shine

On a second note, even your oh-so beloved wikipedia is doubting the accuracy of those articles, cause right on top they say - "The factual accuracy of this article is disputed." HA HA............... FAIL

 

[saharaz]

Let's see who first place started the confusion.



Now you have stated that there are more females than males in some countries. I have extended the argument. Now you are reverted to even cheaper tactic of lying. Now you idiot, who started to quote numbers and "divert " the subject?

Here are more of your population statistics being brought up.


Here's another one.


I have shatterd your claims with selective statistics to pieces. Admit that by bringing up stats that you have dugged your own grave, or keep lying

OHH MY GODD.... WALBADOO PLEASE STOP YOUR PLAY I ALREADY DISCUSSED ABOUT ALL THESE FACT YOU ARE LATE ... IF YOU ARE INTERESTED YOU CAN CHECK THE PREVIOUSE REPLYS ALL THE ANSWERS ARE AVAILABLE THERE FOR ALL YOUR QUESTIONS

 

[saharaz]

Another fucking hilarious joke.

Chinese are the virtual pioneers of every thing we use. Even the law of relativity was described in China in 1500BC. They had complete data of astronomical events since 1500BC.

Muslims only contributed to a minor part of it what is comparable to Hindus.

THIS IS A USEFUL INFO AFTER LONG TIME THANX... FIRSTLY I DIDN'T SAY THAT MUSLIMS ARE PIONEERS OF SCIENCE I SAID MUSLIMS ARE PIONEERS OF MODERN SCIENCE.......

 

[DJ.ROCKSTAR]

ahaa thanx machanzz ela ela machanz

 

[nadeeshaF]

THIS IS A USEFUL INFO AFTER LONG TIME THANX... FIRSTLY I DIDN'T SAY THAT MUSLIMS ARE PIONEERS OF SCIENCE I SAID MUSLIMS ARE PIONEERS OF MODERN SCIENCE.......

Can you provide references to non-wikipedia (refer my post) and non-islamic webpages claiming the same?

 

[nadeeshaF]

OHH MY GODD.... WALBADOO PLEASE STOP YOUR PLAY I ALREADY DISCUSSED ABOUT ALL THESE FACT YOU ARE LATE ... IF YOU ARE INTERESTED YOU CAN CHECK THE PREVIOUSE REPLYS ALL THE ANSWERS ARE AVAILABLE THERE FOR ALL YOUR QUESTIONS

The cries of a loser

No, you have not provided any answers. There are more men than women in most muslim countries, and what have you got to say about that?

 

[saharaz]

That is the most ridiculous thing I have heard as an excuse for polygomy!!


Really? How do you know for sure???

it was not the excuse for polygomy it is one of the reason why polyandry is prohibited in Islam. polyandry is a woman having more than one husband....

PREVIOUSLY ONE SISTER ASK WHY ISLAM IS ALLOWING MEN TO MARRY MORE THAN ONE ON THE OTHER HAND IT PROHIBITING WOMEN MARRYING MORE THAN ONE.

READ THE STATEMENTS PROPERLY AND GET THE REAL IDEA

Secondly man is more polygamous by nature as compared to a woman. i have give the reasons if you are interested you can check once again READ THE STATEMENTS PROPERLY AND GET THE REAL IDEA... for your misunderstanding i'm not responsible ..

 

[nadeeshaF]

Secondly man is more polygamous by nature as compared to a woman. i have give the reasons if you are interested you can check once again READ THE STATEMENTS PROPERLY AND GET THE REAL IDEA... for your misunderstanding i'm not responsible ..

Where's the empirical evidence for this?

LOL, saharaz has started avoiding me since he failed miserably at trying to refute me. Funny how mohamed said that a man's brain is bigger than a woman's.

 

[saharaz]

Can you provide references to non-wikipedia (refer my post) and non-islamic webpages claiming the same?

Sister nadeeshaF i know you are very interested to know more Islam than any other i appreciate it ..
soon i will open a new thread regarding Islam and Modern Science then you can ask all your question related to that particular topic so save your respective questions for that . i hope you know very well about this topic let's talk only related to only this topic so as to not to divert the topic.

 

[saharaz]

The cries of a loser

No, you have not provided any answers. There are more men than women in most muslim countries, and what have you got to say about that?

Sister when it come to women population in Muslim countries it is realy not a issue for Muslims. but i don't understan why you and Walbada is very interested on this topic ..... anyway i tell you

In the Glorious Al Quran Allah Almighty Says

Today all good things have been made lawful for you and the food of the People of the Book is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them and the chaste women among the believing women and the chaste women among those who were given the book before you when you you give them their due as protectors (of their honor), not (engaged) in promiscuity or having a lover. And whoever rejects faith has nullified his actions and is, in the hereafter, among those in loss.} Al-Maidah:5

Muslms are allow to marry people of book ie. jews and christian. when ther is a shortage for muslim women a Muslim is permitted to marry the free and chaste among the People of the Book i.e jews and christians.

so don't worry for muslim world women population

 

[saharaz]

Where's the empirical evidence for this?

LOL, saharaz has started avoiding me since he failed miserably at trying to refute me. Funny how mohamed said that a man's brain is bigger than a woman's.

can you give me the proof that our beloved prophet Muhammad pbuh said that man's brain is bigger than a woman's ????????

in which book of muslims it is mentioned ???

 

[nadeeshaF]

can you give me the proof that our beloved prophet Muhammad pbuh said that man's brain is bigger than a woman's ????????

in which book of muslims it is mentioned ???

I did not mean than literally! Bigger brain simply refers to having a higher intellectual capacity. Mohamed made it clear several times over that women are mentally deficient to men. Do you deny that?
If your answer is no, do you believe that women in general are mentally inferior to men?

Sura 2:282:
Narrated Abu Said Al—Khudri:
The Prophet said, 'Isn't the witness of a woman equal to half of that of a man?' The women said, 'Yes.' He said, 'This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind.'

Quran in Sura 4:34:
Men are managers of the affairs of women because Allah has made the one superior to the other. (Maududi, vol. 1, p. 329)

 

[nadeeshaF]

Sister when it come to women population in Muslim countries it is realy not a issue for Muslims. but i don't understan why you and Walbada is very interested on this topic ..... anyway i tell you

In the Glorious Al Quran Allah Almighty Says

Today all good things have been made lawful for you and the food of the People of the Book is lawful for you and your food is lawful for them and the chaste women among the believing women and the chaste women among those who were given the book before you when you you give them their due as protectors (of their honor), not (engaged) in promiscuity or having a lover. And whoever rejects faith has nullified his actions and is, in the hereafter, among those in loss.} Al-Maidah:5

Muslms are allow to marry people of book ie. jews and christian. when ther is a shortage for muslim women a Muslim is permitted to marry the free and chaste among the People of the Book i.e jews and christians.

so don't worry for muslim world women population

 

[sirajstc]

 

[saharaz]

I did not mean than literally! Bigger brain simply refers to having a higher intellectual capacity. Mohamed made it clear several times over that women are mentally deficient to men. Do you deny that?
If your answer is no, do you believe that women in general are mentally inferior to men?

Regarding Women in Islam Vast Subject still I'll give you the brief.

In Islam there is absolutely no difference between men and women as far as their relationship to Allah is concerned, as both are promised the same reward for good conduct and the same punishment for evil conduct. The Qur'an says:


And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women. (2:226)


The Qur'an, in addressing the believers, often uses the expression,'believing men and women' to emphasize the equality of men and women in regard to their respective duties, rights, virtues and merits. It says:


For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward. (33:35)


This clearly contradicts the assertion of the Christian Fathers that women do not possess souls and that they will exist as sexless beings in the next life. The Qur'an says that women have souls in exactly the same way as men and will enter Paradise if they do good :


Enter into Paradise, you and your wives, with delight. (43:70)


Who so does that which is right, and believes, whether male or female, him or her will We quicken to happy life. (16:97)


The Qur'an admonishes those men who oppress or ill-treat women:

O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should you treat them with harshness, that you may take away part of the dowry you have given them - except when they have become guilty of open lewdness. On the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If you take a dislike to them, it may be that you dislike something and Allah will bring about through it a great deal of good. (4:19)

Islam regards men and women as being of the same essence created from a single soul. The Qur'an declares:


O mankind! Reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you from a single person, created, of like nature, his mate, and from this pair scattered (like seeds) countless men and women. Reverence Allah, through Whom you demand your mutual (rights), and reverence the wombs (that bore you); for Allah ever watches over you. (4:1)


The Prophet of Islam (peace be upon him) said, "Women are the twin halves of men." The Qur'an emphasizes the essential unity of men and women in a most beautiful simile:
They (your wives) are your garment and you are a garment for them. (2:187)


Just as a garment hides our nakedness, so do husband and wife, by entering into the relationship of marriage, secure each other's chastity. The garment gives comfort to the body; so does the husband find comfort in his wife's company and she in his. "The garment is the grace, the beauty, the embellishment of the body, so too are wives to their husbands as their husbands are to them." Islam does not consider woman:


The Shari'ah regards women as the spiritual and intellectual equals of men. The main distinction it makes between them is in the physical realm based on the equitable principle of fair division of labor. It allots the more strenuous work to the man and makes him responsible for the maintenance of the family. It allots the work of managing the home and the upbringing and training of children to the woman, work which has the greatest importance in the task of building a healthy and prosperous society.


It is a fact, however, that sound administration within the domestic field is impossible without a unified policy. For this reason the Shari'ah requires a man, as head of the family, to consult with his family and then to have the final say in decisions concerning it. In doing so he must not abuse his prerogative to cause any injury to his wife. Any transgression of this principle involves for him the risk of losing the favor of Allah, because his wife is not his subordinate but she is, to use the words of the Prophet (peace be upon him), 'the queen of her house', and this is the position a true believer is expected to give his wife. In contrast to these enlightened teachings of Islam in respect of women, Western talk of women's liberation or emancipation is actually a disguised form of exploitation of her body, deprivation of her honor, and degradation of her soul!

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