Renault KWID 2016 (Official Thread)

[sp4chamara]

thanks machan you've been a great help too

can't wait mcn...give us a damn review......some idiots can't understand the fact here..hope ur review will change their mind... .

 

[shan4djfun]

can't wait mcn...give us a damn review......some idiots can't understand the fact here..hope ur review will change their mind... .

thanks machan!

 

[SAN_APIIT]

as you can se non-of those advantages concerns me

LOL Dude, let me guess. Among all the other things I posted here all you know is ABS? That shits been on cars for over a decade now. That's exactly why I added ABS / EBD Dude i'm sorry about you. Good luck with your car mate.

So this if for your learning. I'm sure you can.

EBD is an added function to the ABS (Anti-lock Brake System) *1 which is designed to properly control front/rear and left/right wheel braking force regardless of the difference in load or the total number of occupants, load conditions, whether the vehicle is decelerating, or when cornering. EBD helps ensure excellent vehicle stability and contributes to the realization of excellent braking performance.

Break assist:
BA helps assist drivers who cannot press the brake pedal hard enough when braking in an emergency situation by supporting the driver with additional braking force. This allows for the generation of greater braking force and contributes to realizing excellent braking performance.

Source:http://www.toyota.lk/valued-customer/toyota-safety/ebd-electronic-brake-force-distribution/

Oh let me guess. None of these matters to you right?

 

[shan4djfun]

LOL Dude, let me guess. Among all the other things I posted here all you know is ABS? That shits been on cars for over a decade now. That's exactly why I added ABS / EBD Dude i'm sorry about you. Good luck with your car mate.

So this if for your learning. I'm sure you can.

EBD is an added function to the ABS (Anti-lock Brake System) *1 which is designed to properly control front/rear and left/right wheel braking force regardless of the difference in load or the total number of occupants, load conditions, whether the vehicle is decelerating, or when cornering. EBD helps ensure excellent vehicle stability and contributes to the realization of excellent braking performance.

Break assist:
BA helps assist drivers who cannot press the brake pedal hard enough when braking in an emergency situation by supporting the driver with additional braking force. This allows for the generation of greater braking force and contributes to realizing excellent braking performance.

Source:http://www.toyota.lk/valued-customer/toyota-safety/ebd-electronic-brake-force-distribution/

Oh let me guess. None of these matters to you right?

cool, ABS has been there for many years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system

Actually I didn't want to talk about any of those. Because there are vehicles running without these technologies fine.

Thanks for your contribution for this thread, there cars without ABS that are doing fine. I'm simply taking my chances

I've seen EDB on some entry level models , having more features are awesome nobody can deny that. But dont make it a reason to go for a very old car

 

[GuneBhai]

10-20 in traffic of course. all other time city 30-40 and out station 60, highway 70+

I've seen how hybride drivers are going in city without traffic, they are the ones creating traffic most of the time

Machan I have no beef with your decision to buy a Kiwid. But me and other posters here try to say is that Cheap Indian cars aren't safe to drive as other JDM or Euro cars where there are stricter laws to ensure manufactures produce safe vehicles.

 

[phetti222]

LOL Dude, let me guess. Among all the other things I posted here all you know is ABS? That shits been on cars for over a decade now. That's exactly why I added ABS / EBD Dude i'm sorry about you. Good luck with your car mate.

So this if for your learning. I'm sure you can.

EBD is an added function to the ABS (Anti-lock Brake System) *1 which is designed to properly control front/rear and left/right wheel braking force regardless of the difference in load or the total number of occupants, load conditions, whether the vehicle is decelerating, or when cornering. EBD helps ensure excellent vehicle stability and contributes to the realization of excellent braking performance.

Break assist:
BA helps assist drivers who cannot press the brake pedal hard enough when braking in an emergency situation by supporting the driver with additional braking force. This allows for the generation of greater braking force and contributes to realizing excellent braking performance.

Source:http://www.toyota.lk/valued-customer/toyota-safety/ebd-electronic-brake-force-distribution/

Oh let me guess. None of these matters to you right?

It's all a matter of cost.... The question is whether you can afford all these safety features. The clientele of entry level cars do not want (or cannot afford) ABS, EBD, HBA, TCS etc. They are buying a car for the very first time in their lives. All they want is a car without running repairs, without tyre replacement, without battery replacement, etc for at least 3 years. In addition to that, they are attracted to the 3 initial services which are offered free of charge by the local car agent.

If they are to buy a second-hand car, sooner or later they will have to replace the tyres (a cost of Rs. 25,000 for a couple of tyres), and the battery (a cost of about Rs. 12,000). With great difficulties do they muster all their available resources to pay the monthly installment, and such additional costs are a huge burden on them. A Japanese car that is 8 to 12 years old is not immune from running repairs. That means more costs. Compared to Indian entry level cars, they are petrol guzzlers. Garage baases also charge for repairs according to the car type --- The highest charge for European cars, a little less for Japanese cars, the least for Indian cars.

Without looking into this picture, you are finding fault with people who opt for Indian entry level cars. Try to be empathetic and understand their circumstances.

 

[phetti222]

Machan I have no beef with your decision to buy a Kiwid. But me and other posters here try to say is that Cheap Indian cars aren't safe to drive as other JDM or Euro cars where there are stricter laws to ensure manufactures produce safe vehicles.

The clientele of Indian entry level cars cannot afford such safety features. Can't you understand that?

 

[ksnishad]

Kiwid

what color and the variant did you order?

Rxt variant red colour ...can u please tell me when did u ordered

 

[phetti222]

Rxt variant red colour ...can u please tell me when did u ordered

My one will have Outlook Bronze colour..... RXT (O) variant.

 

[malakadss]

It's all a matter of cost.... The question is whether you can afford all these safety features. The clientele of entry level cars do not want (or cannot afford) ABS, EBD, HBA, TCS etc. They are buying a car for the very first time in their lives. All they want is a car without running repairs, without tyre replacement, without battery replacement, etc for at least 3 years. In addition to that, they are attracted to the 3 initial services which are offered free of charge by the local car agent.

If they are to buy a second-hand car, sooner or later they will have to replace the tyres (a cost of Rs. 25,000 for a couple of tyres), and the battery (a cost of about Rs. 12,000). With great difficulties do they muster all their available resources to pay the monthly installment, and such additional costs are a huge burden on them. A Japanese car that is 8 to 12 years old is not immune from running repairs. That means more costs. Compared to Indian entry level cars, they are petrol guzzlers. Garage baases also charge for repairs according to the car type --- The highest charge for European cars, a little less for Japanese cars, the least for Indian cars.

Without looking into this picture, you are finding fault with people who opt for Indian entry level cars. Try to be empathetic and understand their circumstances.

battery & tires wastage same for any car, brand new or used. running repair are also same. even for a brandnew vehicle wear and tear happen. so you have to replace those parts.

As I mentioned earlier I am using 22 years old well maintained Japanese car. using it for about one year. replaced only thermostat. hows that

 

[SAN_APIIT]

It's all a matter of cost.... The question is whether you can afford all these safety features. The clientele of entry level cars do not want (or cannot afford) ABS, EBD, HBA, TCS etc. They are buying a car for the very first time in their lives. All they want is a car without running repairs, without tyre replacement, without battery replacement, etc for at least 3 years. In addition to that, they are attracted to the 3 initial services which are offered free of charge by the local car agent.

If they are to buy a second-hand car, sooner or later they will have to replace the tyres (a cost of Rs. 25,000 for a couple of tyres), and the battery (a cost of about Rs. 12,000). With great difficulties do they muster all their available resources to pay the monthly installment, and such additional costs are a huge burden on them. A Japanese car that is 8 to 12 years old is not immune from running repairs. That means more costs. Compared to Indian entry level cars, they are petrol guzzlers. Garage baases also charge for repairs according to the car type --- The highest charge for European cars, a little less for Japanese cars, the least for Indian cars.

Without looking into this picture, you are finding fault with people who opt for Indian entry level cars. Try to be empathetic and understand their circumstances.

You got it very wrong mate. I have not even said a word about indian or entry cars, have I?. Simply wanted to corrected the wrong mind set of having safety features would not prevent an accident from happening. Please read 1st.

 

[SAN_APIIT]

cool, ABS has been there for many years https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-lock_braking_system

Actually I didn't want to talk about any of those. Because there are vehicles running without these technologies fine.

Thanks for your contribution for this thread, there cars without ABS that are doing fine. I'm simply taking my chances

I've seen EDB on some entry level models , having more features are awesome nobody can deny that. But dont make it a reason to go for a very old car

Yes, that's exactly what it is. And it not bad machan. We all do that for some extend in our life.

Just wanted to point out that certain features are capable of preventing accidents. Just wanted to answer that...

So give us a review machan, would love to see it.

 

[shan4djfun]

Machan I have no beef with your decision to buy a Kiwid. But me and other posters here try to say is that Cheap Indian cars aren't safe to drive as other JDM or Euro cars where there are stricter laws to ensure manufactures produce safe vehicles.

thanks for you advise machan, I understand and I have explained why it doesn't affect my decision is buying this awesome car

 

[shan4djfun]

Yes, that's exactly what it is. And it not bad machan. We all do that for some extend in our life.

Just wanted to point out that certain features are capable of preventing accidents. Just wanted to answer that...

So give us a review machan, would love to see it.

yup, i never denied that, there is a probability of happening anything. I will gie you guys a perfect review

 

[sp4chamara]

I don't know about others..but personally if Im in this situation, I will go for a japaneese car around same budget.Only reason for me is the second hand market price.I don't care how many people used it before,because its my car now.I do what I want..But there are some people who want to buy a brand new car for a reasonable price. So they can buy this Indian or Malaysian cars..Also its a good choice for an entry level vehicle.

I have experince with 30 years old japan car to 2016 models.So for me latest are the best.But in Sri lanka , its not always the features..Fuel comseption , durability , maintance cost & definetly the second hand market price.So the basic thing for me is if you want to buy a car with some options & not worried about the car condition, then definetly go for a Japan car.But if you are really want to buy a brand new car for low budget then go for the indina cars...thats the basic theory...this is not about the high level computerized safety systems or any other option...just a brand new car for a low budget.Acually its not a low budget car in our country.So lets name it , low budget car for a high price.

by the way, It doesn't matter what type of a car you are driving.If you are a good driver you can live long untill you met a drunken or reckless driver...

 

[shan4djfun]

I don't know about others..but personally if Im in this situation, I will go for a japaneese car around same budget.Only reason for me is the second hand market price.I don't care how many people used it before,because its my car now.I do what I want..But there are some people who want to buy a brand new car for a reasonable price. So they can buy this Indian or Malaysian cars..Also its a good choice for an entry level vehicle.

I have experince with 30 years old japan car to 2016 models.So for me latest are the best.But in Sri lanka , its not always the features..Fuel comseption , durability , maintance cost & definetly the second hand market price.So the basic thing for me is if you want to buy a car with some options & not worried about the car condition, then definetly go for a Japan car.But if you are really want to buy a brand new car for low budget then go for the indina cars...thats the basic theory...this is not about the high level computerized safety systems or any other option...just a brand new car for a low budget.Acually its not a low budget car in our country.So lets name it , low budget car for a high price.

by the way, It doesn't matter what type of a car you are driving.If you are a good driver you can live long untill you met a drunken or reckless driver...

even I wouldn't buy a second hand indian car machan. but each car segment has it own market.

eg: maruti, kia, perouda

so wouldn't worry about it, simply exchange it to a new one with AMW

 

[sp4chamara]

even I wouldn't buy a second hand indian car machan. but each car segment has it own market.

eg: maruti, kia, perouda

so wouldn't worry about it, simply exchange it to a new one with AMW

yep...So no worries mcn.. even with a brand new Japanese cars, we can't sell it for the same price we bought..but with a used car, there is a 50/50 chance to resell it for the same price we bought or a higher price.

If I want to buy a brand new car for long term use & for a reasonable price, I will go for a brand new Indina car.If my budget around 50+ laks , then i will buy a japaneese car,no doubt about that.

BTW here is one of my threads I opened about this KWID few moths ago..I saw it on IKMAN.Lk.

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=1735945

So good luck again & can't wait to see your review machan..Im eager to know wheather this model is ok or not..

 

[phetti222]

battery & tires wastage same for any car, brand new or used. running repair are also same. even for a brandnew vehicle wear and tear happen. so you have to replace those parts.

As I mentioned earlier I am using 22 years old well maintained Japanese car. using it for about one year. replaced only thermostat. hows that

You didn't get my point....

When you buy a brand new car, your tyres have zero mileage on them. The next replacement is due only after you have driven 35,000 - 42,000 km.

When you buy a second-hand car, the tyres are somewhat used. You can't drive 35,000 km with them. Sooner or later you have to replace them.

Tyres for Japanese cars (16") are more expensive than for Indian cars (13").


The same applies for the battery. When you buy a brand new car, the next replacement is due in about 3 years.

When you buy a used car, the battery is not brand new. You have to replace it sooner or later.


When you buy a brand new car, there are no running repairs, at least during the first 2 years.

When you buy a second-hand car, you don't know when the next running repair will occur.


When you buy a brand new car, the first 3 services are free.

When you buy a second-hand car, there are no free services.


When you buy the Kwid, there is a warranty for 2 years.

When you buy a second-hand car, there is no warranty.


Again, you don't understand the clientele of Sri Lankan entry level car buyers. With great difficulty, they collect 5 or 6 lakhs. And then, in order to pay the rest they have to go for a loan. Then comes the monthly installments for the next 5 years, which is also a huge burden on them.

Therefore, not having to replace the tyres/batteries; not having to pay for running repairs for at least 2 years is a great saving for them.
They would be very happy if they can save even 1000 Rupees.


Then comes the fuel efficiency. Indian entry level cars are designed to save fuel. Maruti Celerio (22 kmpl) and Renault Kwid (25 kmpl) are more fuel efficient than a hybrid car (20 kmpl). I know a bank manager from Kegalle area who owns a 10 year old 1.8 L Toyota Premio which has ABS, but travels by bus, only because his car is a petrol guzzler. He uses his car only to visit friends and relatives.

Indian entry level car buyers are not interested in safety features. What they want is a decent car for the little money they have in their hands. They are mostly salaried people and therefore are unable to "roll" money like businessmen do. So, they cannot afford cars equipped with ABS, EBD, ESP, etc, etc, etc.....

If you can't understand what I have written here in plain English, then there is surely a problem with your language skills.

 

[phetti222]

As I mentioned earlier I am using 22 years old well maintained Japanese car. using it for about one year. replaced only thermostat. hows that

In one year "only" the thermostat... During the second year more replacements..... During the third year many more replacements and servicing of the A/C system....

Please understand that for a person who can make an initial payment of only 6 or 7 lakhs for a car, these things are heavy burdens, besides the monthly installments. Even paying Rs. 3000 for the thermostat is a huge cost for them.

 

[sp4chamara]

Indian entry level car buyers are not interested in safety features. What they want is a decent car for the little money they have in their hands. They are mostly salaried people and therefore are unable to "roll" money like businessmen do. So, they cannot afford cars equipped with ABS, EBD, ESP, etc, etc, etc.....

The simple fact most people can't understand well. It's all about the money..