Vegetarianism

kalyanamithra

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    massina said:
    Well I have this problem...The bikkhu states that it is not a sin if we eat meat of an animal knowing that it was never killed for us. This is my question.

    Most of animals are slaughtered to the mass market. For the buyers. So if there are no buyers the meat products are not available, right? So if we are a buyer, we are definitely in the circle right? I mean yes that animal was not killed for your name but, we are the buyers...

    I have been a vegetarian for 8 years now. Its not because of the sins or Buddhism. its because we have no right to slaughter animals for a pleasure of few seconds...

    Say no to animal torturing!!!

    Pinwath mithura,

    What that swaminwahanse says is in accordance with Dhamma.

    If one practices Dhamma
    - he/she may or may not eat meat
    - if eating: he/she should make sure that it in accordance with Dhamma
    - if not: he/she should not think of it as Sila (if not

    And we should never discriminate based on whether we eat meet or not...

    Theruwan saranai
     

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  • kalyanamithra said:
    Pinwath mithura,

    What that swaminwahanse says is in accordance with Dhamma.

    If one practices Dhamma
    - he/she may or may not eat meat
    - if eating: he/she should make sure that it in accordance with Dhamma
    - if not: he/she should not think of it as Sila (if not

    And we should never discriminate based on whether we eat meet or not...

    Theruwan saranai

    Pinwath Machan,

    The only thing I truly know is that those innocent animals are dying because of us. Understand this simple logic. If people stop eating meat, there's no market for animal slaughters. I don't care what "budhdhagama" says. I am speaking for them.

    Even if you say so, I don't know why is the first sentence of pansil is out there...

    Kalakanni minissunge dhiwata thaththpara ganakata rasa wenna dhuk widhala marena ahinsaka saththunta "Theruwan saranayi"
     

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  • kalyanamithra said:
    Pinwath mithura,

    What that swaminwahanse says is in accordance with Dhamma.

    If one practices Dhamma
    - he/she may or may not eat meat
    - if eating: he/she should make sure that it in accordance with Dhamma
    - if not: he/she should not think of it as Sila (if not

    And we should never discriminate based on whether we eat meet or not...

    Theruwan saranai


    I ask you one last thing...According to this so called "bana" there is no sin of eating beef. Right? ehenam mona huth****katadha pansal wala harak nidhahas karanne?

    Watch these





    :P :P :P hmmm...yummeeee......Want to eat hamburger from Mcdonalds now...
     

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    massina said:
    I ask you one last thing...According to this so called "bana" there is no sin of eating beef. Right? ehenam mona huth****katadha pansal wala harak nidhahas karanne?

    Watch these

    :P :P :P hmmm...yummeeee......Want to eat hamburger from Mcdonalds now...

    Woah! take it easy bro!

    No one is saying killing animals is NOT a SIN.. it is!

    But Buddhism clearly explains how you can be SINNED for killing an animal, I suggest you look into this more deeply than just scratch the surface!
     

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    To Harshafx ans Massina...

    Trikotika parishudda mansaya anubhawayen Pau sidu wenawa nam, PranaGhathaya sidu wenawanam, warthamanaye api ganna hama aharayak nisama Prana ghathaya sidu wenawa...

    ada kalee govithan hama ekakatama Kruminashaka yodanawa... E gowithan karanne PariBhogikaya wenuwen neda..? Api E dewal mila dee ganne nethnam maha parimanayen Kruminashaka adiya yoda ganimin Govithan karanne ne neda..? Ehema gattahama api bath kawath, elawalu kawath pranaghathaya sidu wenawa..

    E wagema Beheth Bhavitha kirima nisath pau sidu wenawa.. mokada ewa nipadawiimata pryeshana kirima sadaha sathun yodaa gannawa.. mewata Uttara denna..!!!!

    pinwath mitura.. emanisa oyawage mathupitin balala adahas prakasha karanna epa..

    Budu rajanan wahanse yamak prakasha karanawa nam eya prakasha kara thibenne kokaye pawathina Dharma tyawayan E aakarayen ma Awabhoda kirimen pasuwai..

    Api wage ape prathamika nuwanin nowei.. E nisa nikam nikarune pau sidu kara ganna epa.. nodanna dewal gana katha karanna gihilla...
     

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  • I have to stop this for now coz I have to go to work. But I'll check this thread again tonight. Till then,

    This is what I ask. I am not speaking about dhamma. I speak for those innocent helpless animals. Don't you ever think if every human being on earth stop eating meat, that those animals can live their lives without suffocating? Don't you?
     

    kalyanamithra

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    massina said:
    I ask you one last thing...According to this so called "bana" there is no sin of eating beef. Right? ehenam mona huth****katadha pansal wala harak nidhahas karanne?

    Watch these

    ...
    ...

    :P :P :P hmmm...yummeeee......Want to eat hamburger from Mcdonalds now...

    පින්වත් මිතුර,

    බුදු රජාණන් වහන්සේ දේශනා කර තිබෙන්නේ රාගය, ද්වේශය, මෝහය අකුසල කියා...
    කෙනෙක් නිවන් දකින කොට ඒ තුනම ප්*රහාණය වෙනවා...
    ගිහි ජීවිත ගෙවන අපටත් ඒවා ක්*රම ක්*රමයෙන් ප්*රගුණ කර ගන්න ධර්මයේ පැහැදිලි උපදෙස් දෙනවා...
    ඒවා පුරුදු කරනවා නම් ඉතාමත් සතුටින් ලාභ-අලාභ, යස-අයස, නින්දා-ප්*රශංසා, සැප-දුක ආදියට මුහුණ දෙන්න පුළුවන්...
    ඒකයි ධර්මයේ අරමුණ...

    ඒවගේම ධර්මයේ හැසිරෙනවා නම් තරහ නොගෙන අනුන්ගේ post කියවන්නත් පුළුවන් ;)
    මොකද අප තව කෙනෙකුගේ අප හා එකඟ නොවන මත එක්ක ගැටෙන්නෙත් හේතුවක් නිසා...

    - ඔබ දන්නවාද කෘෂි රසායන ද්*රව්*ය නිසා කෙතරම් ජීවින් විනාශ වෙනවද කියා?
    - අප ඇවිදින විට කෙතරම් සතුන් පෑගී මැරෙණවද කියා?
    නියම අහිංසාව ගැන වැටහීමක නැති කෙනෙක් එහෙම නම් කියයි; ගෙවත්තෙ වවපු දේවල් විතරක් කන්න කියා... බිම බලාගෙන, සතුන් මග හැර (ඒත් නොපෙනෙන සතුන් කෙතෙක් ද?) ඇවිදින්න කියා...

    පින්වත් මිතුර, නියම අහිංසාව සිත ද්වේෂයෙන් මිදවීමයි...
    ඒකට යි බුද දහම මඟ පෙන්වන්නෙ...

    තෙරුවන් සරණයි!
     

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    massina said:
    I have to stop this for now coz I have to go to work. But I'll check this thread again tonight. Till then,

    This is what I ask. I am not speaking about dhamma. I speak for those innocent helpless animals. Don't you ever think if every human being on earth stop eating meat, that those animals can live their lives without suffocating? Don't you?
    Nop, Mas kama nawattuwath, Bath ha Elawalu kama nisa Sathun merenawa....

    Oba ha siyaluma Minisun Ahara ganima nawattuwoth Sathun miya yama nawathiiwi...Y don't u reply ma question..?
    If u r nt talking about Dhamma, then ur not taking truth, cos Dhamma is da truth and truth and Dhamma are not two things.
     
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    To Harshafx ans Massina...

    Trikotika parishudda mansaya anubhawayen Pau sidu wenawa nam, PranaGhathaya sidu wenawanam, warthamanaye api ganna hama aharayak nisama Prana ghathaya sidu wenawa...

    ada kalee govithan hama ekakatama Kruminashaka yodanawa... E gowithan karanne PariBhogikaya wenuwen neda..? Api E dewal mila dee ganne nethnam maha parimanayen Kruminashaka adiya yoda ganimin Govithan karanne ne neda..? Ehema gattahama api bath kawath, elawalu kawath pranaghathaya sidu wenawa..

    E wagema Beheth Bhavitha kirima nisath pau sidu wenawa.. mokada ewa nipadawiimata pryeshana kirima sadaha sathun yodaa gannawa.. mewata Uttara denna..!!!!

    pinwath mitura.. emanisa oyawage mathupitin balala adahas prakasha karanna epa..

    Budu rajanan wahanse yamak prakasha karanawa nam eya prakasha kara thibenne kokaye pawathina Dharma tyawayan E aakarayen ma Awabhoda kirimen pasuwai..

    Api wage ape prathamika nuwanin nowei.. E nisa nikam nikarune pau sidu kara ganna epa.. nodanna dewal gana katha karanna gihilla...
    machan oyage kathawen kiyawena widiyata anthagaami unoth nam nokaa nobee marenna wenne:rolleyes: wathura ekak wath bonna ba kshudra jeewiyo inna hinda:P
    api kiyane eka nemei ape masata api wenuwen api danuwathwa marena saththu nisa apita paw prenawa kiyalai api kiyanne:rofl:
     

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    harshafx said:
    machan oyage kathawen kiyawena widiyata anthagaami unoth nam nokaa nobee marenna wenne:rolleyes: wathura ekak wath bonna ba kshudra jeewiyo inna hinda:P
    api kiyane eka nemei ape masata api wenuwen api danuwathwa marena saththu nisa apita paw prenawa kiyalai api kiyanne:rofl:

    oya kiyana thanadi witharak daunwath wa sidu wennath mama kiyapu de nodanuwath wa wennath hethuwa mokadda..? oya oya kiyana deth antha gami deyak witharai...


    ai oya danne nedda govithan walata krumi nashaka yodanawa kiyala...Lokaye kawadawath oya oya kiyana widiyata pranaghathaya nawattanna ba.. ehena nawattala thiyenawa nam pennanna..

    yaluwa loke atta Tharkawalin oppu karanna ba... matupitin atha gala hoyannath ba....
     

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    mas kana nisa saththu maranawada?...:)
    saththu marana nisa api kanawada?:)

    @ massina..

    saththu marana eka (butcher) nawathunoth.. saththu marana eka nawatheeda?
    mas kanna ona kena sathawa maragena hari kanawa..... ekai aththa...
    anika warthamana lokayath ekka mas mansha noka jeewath wenna amarui....
    api kana hama dekama saththunge monawahari thiyanawa.....

    mama hithanawa umba cake kanawa athi kiyala...:)
    cake hadanneth biththara walin ;)
    ehema balan yaddi kanna deyak nathi wei apita......
     

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    dumira j said:
    mas kana nisa saththu maranawada?...:)
    saththu marana nisa api kanawada?:)

    @ massina..

    saththu marana eka (butcher) nawathunoth.. saththu marana eka nawatheeda?
    mas kanna ona kena sathawa maragena hari kanawa..... ekai aththa...
    anika warthamana lokayath ekka mas mansha noka jeewath wenna amarui....
    api kana hama dekama saththunge monawahari thiyanawa.....

    mama hithanawa umba cake kanawa athi kiyala...:)
    cake hadanneth biththara walin ;)
    ehema balan yaddi kanna deyak nathi wei apita......

    agree with u machan...
     

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    kalyanamithra said:
    Pinwath mithura,

    Me gena EK vala mita kalin katha vela thiyenawa ne.
    Oba PM karapu hinda mama adahas dakvanam; obama me gena soya balanna ko..

    Ma danna vidihata nam, mema lipiye ena daham karunu niveredi... :)

    Meeta amatharava, mansha paribhojanaya gena adahasa Jeewka Sutraya, Siha Senadhipathi Suthraya, veni then vala th thiyenawa.

    Mekath ahala balanna:
    http://www.mahamevna.org/downloads/Mp3/Seeha_Senapathi_Sutta.mp3
    (meka seka nam thripitakaye me suthraya hoyala balanna; vada karala nam vedek ne...)

    Theruwan saranau!
    Bohoma sthuthi adahas dakweema gana..eth hithata ekangawa me ekka mata ekanga wenna ba:no:prathyakshayen awaboda una deyak pahadili karadeeme apahasu thaawayata mama pathwela inne:baffled:
    me lipi ye mulinma sandahan de "mas malu aharayata ganna aya eyin walak weema ho mas malu nokana aya kemata pelamba weemak nowe" yanna mulinma sadahan karanne...me pilibanda masamaga tharka nokaranna kiyanawa wage neda?
    me lipiyen ehema deyak adahas nowwath ein wenne mas kana haa nokana depirisama mas kema sandahaa diri deemak neda?:rolleyes:

    Manasin usas minisaata pamanak dayada wela thiyena parikalpana shakthiya nisa thamai mjinisa me tharam diyunuwata path wela thiyenna..nirwaanaya dakwaama yana magak padila thiyenneth parikalpana shakthiya nisa neda?
    ehema baladdi poddak wath hithenne nadda? me saththu maranne api wenuwen kiyala:(
    man danne na..mata tharka kirimata tharamdaham danumak na..eka mulma post eketh mama kiwwa..me daham karunu harinam lankawe 80%k hamuduruwaru deshana karana dharmaya boruwakda?:dull:
     

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    X men said:
    oya kiyana thanadi witharak daunwath wa sidu wennath mama kiyapu de nodanuwath wa wennath hethuwa mokadda..? oya oya kiyana deth antha gami deyak witharai...


    ai oya danne nedda govithan walata krumi nashaka yodanawa kiyala...Lokaye kawadawath oya oya kiyana widiyata pranaghathaya nawattanna ba.. ehena nawattala thiyenawa nam pennanna..

    yaluwa loke atta Tharkawalin oppu karanna ba... matupitin atha gala hoyannath ba....
    loke pranagathaya kohewth nawathiloa na..aduma tharame eka gamaka wath thaama man hithaa widiyata nawathila na...ehema paw walin athmidenna bari hinda thamai hemoma budu nowenne...owage saththu nomarama inna puluwannam anith pawuth tika tika adu karala try karala buduwennath puluwanne:P
    api wenuwen karana api sandaha karana sathwa hinsa saha gaathana nawathweemen paw karana prathishathaya adu karaganna kiana ekai mama kiyanne:dull:
     

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    dumira j said:
    mas kana nisa saththu maranawada?...:)
    saththu marana nisa api kanawada?:)

    @ massina..

    saththu marana eka (butcher) nawathunoth.. saththu marana eka nawatheeda?
    mas kanna ona kena sathawa maragena hari kanawa..... ekai aththa...
    anika warthamana lokayath ekka mas mansha noka jeewath wenna amarui....
    api kana hama dekama saththunge monawahari thiyanawa.....

    mama hithanawa umba cake kanawa athi kiyala...:)
    cake hadanneth biththara walin ;)
    ehema balan yaddi kanna deyak nathi wei apita......
    machan biththara kiyala api kanne sansechanaya nowu kalala wikasanayak arambaweemata wath idak nathi..kikiliyakage aarthawa chakrayedi pitawana dimba saila tikak..ehema noka inna giyoth palaa tikak wath kanna bari wei...shaaka saila nisa :rolleyes:
     

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    massina said:
    I have to stop this for now coz I have to go to work. But I'll check this thread again tonight. Till then,

    This is what I ask. I am not speaking about dhamma. I speak for those innocent helpless animals. Don't you ever think if every human being on earth stop eating meat, that those animals can live their lives without suffocating? Don't you?

    පින්වත් මිතුර,

    ඔබ කියන ඔය දේ ළඟදි වෙන්නෙ නෑ...
    ධර්මය අනුව නම් එවන්නක් වෙයි කියා හෝ හිතන්න පුළුවන් සක්විති රජකුගේ පාලන සමයකදී...
    ඔබ කීවා වගේ ධර්මය පැත්තක තබමු :dull:
    - ඔබ හිතන්නෙ සත්තු මරන්නෙ කන්න විතරක් කියල ද?
    - මස් ම ආහාරයට ගන්න සංස්කෘතීන් ගැන මොකද හිතන්නෙ? ඔවුන් විකල්ප ආහාරවලට පුරුදු කරන්න ඕනෙද?
    - "those animals can live their lives without suffocating" කියා ඔබ දුක් වෙන්නෙ මිනිස්සු සත්තු මරණ එක ගැන විතර ද? එතකොට මාංශ භක්ෂක සතුන් අනෙක් අය මරණ එක ගැන මොකද හිතෙනනෙ... ඒක කමක් නැත්ද?
    - කෘමි නාශක භාවිතය ගැන මොකද ඔබ හිතන්නෙ?
    - වසංගත පාලනයට මදුරු නාශක භාවිතා කිරීම?
    - කොපමණ ආගම් වල සතුන් මැරීමට අවසර දී තියෙනවද? ඒව නවත්වන්නෙ කොහොමද?

    මස් කෑම හෝ නොකෑම තමන්ගේ කැමැත්තක්...
    ඒක අනෙක් අයට ඒත්තු ගැන්වීමත් එසේ මයි...

    ඔන්න මම ධර්මයට ආපසු ගියා :)
    අප සතෙක් මැරීම නැවැත්වීමට මැදිහත් වුණොත් පිණක් තමා... (ඒකයි හරක් මැරීම ගැනත් කියන්න තියෙන්නෙ... අවාසනාව ඒව කරන ඇතැම් අය ධර්ම මාර්ගයේ යන්න උත්සාහ නොකර, සම්ප්*රදායක ලෙස හරක් නිදහස් කිරීම වගේ දේවල් පමණක් කරමින් ඉඳීම)

    අප බාහිර ලෝකය හදන එක හොඳයි...
    සතුන් මැරීමෙන් වළක්වන එක හොඳයි..
    ධර්මයෙන්කරන්නේ එක එක්කෙනා විමුක්තිය ලෙස ගෙන යාමයි..
    ලෝකයම හදල, තමා හැදන එක ට වඩා තමා හැදී/හැදෙමින් ලෝකය හැදීමයි වැදගත්? මොකද අපේ ජීවිතකාලය ඉතා කොටයි...

    ඒ හින්දයි, පංච ශීලය නිත්*ය ශීලය කරල තියෙන්නේ... අප කර යුත්තේ එක් එක් අය පංච ශීලයේ හික්මවීමයි.. එතැනින් නො නැවතී ධර්මය ප්*රගුණ කිරීමට පෙළඹවීමයි..
    (එතකොට ඒ සමාජයේ සතුන් මැරීමත් අඩුවෙයි... එහෙම නොවුනත් කමක් නෑ; ධර්ම මාර්ගයේ යෑමෙන් අඩු තරමේ අප අපට පිහිට වන නිසා)

    තෙරුවන් සරණයි!
     

    harshafx

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    mama dan me thrd eken yanawa moko methana hitiyoth tharka karana gihin hith amanaapakam athi wei kiyala mata bayai...oyala kochchara kiwwath meka mama piliganneth na..mama kochchara kiwwath oyala piliganneth na...erka waliyakata mula wage neda? :rolleyes:
    onna mama giya...buh byeee... :D
    theruwan saranai siyaluma manu-saththunta ;)
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    kalyanamithra

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    harshafx said:
    Bohoma sthuthi adahas dakweema gana..eth hithata ekangawa me ekka mata ekanga wenna ba:no:prathyakshayen awaboda una deyak pahadili karadeeme apahasu thaawayata mama pathwela inne:baffled:
    me lipi ye mulinma sandahan de "mas malu aharayata ganna aya eyin walak weema ho mas malu nokana aya kemata pelamba weemak nowe" yanna mulinma sadahan karanne...me pilibanda masamaga tharka nokaranna kiyanawa wage neda?
    me lipiyen ehema deyak adahas nowwath ein wenne mas kana haa nokana depirisama mas kema sandahaa diri deemak neda?:rolleyes:

    Manasin usas minisaata pamanak dayada wela thiyena parikalpana shakthiya nisa thamai mjinisa me tharam diyunuwata path wela thiyenna..nirwaanaya dakwaama yana magak padila thiyenneth parikalpana shakthiya nisa neda?
    ehema baladdi poddak wath hithenne nadda? me saththu maranne api wenuwen kiyala:(
    man danne na..mata tharka kirimata tharamdaham danumak na..eka mulma post eketh mama kiwwa..me daham karunu harinam lankawe 80%k hamuduruwaru deshana karana dharmaya boruwakda?:dull:

    පින්වත් මිතුර,

    පින්වත් ස්වාමින් වහන්සේලා කියන දෙයින් සෑහිමට පත් නොවී...
    ඔබම ත්*රිපිටක පරිවර්තනයක් සොයා කියවා බලන්න..
    ජිවක සූත්*රය, සිහ සේනාධිපති සූත්*රය වැනි ඒවා...
    ධර්මය තර්කයට ගැලපෙන්නේ නෑ තමා..
    ඒත් ධර්මය ප්*රගුණ කරන විට ඔබටම තේරෙයි...
    බුදු රජාණන් වහන්සේ පැවසූ දේ සහ එසේ කළේ ඇයි කියා...

    තෙරුවන් සරණයි!