What a Relief Cuz Of UBUNTU!!!

[asangalk]

well yar don't u get it??? all those are open platforms, there compilers, interpreters are all open source! thats what i was tring to say now when the compilers are open... u can just look into them and have a nice idea of what really happen to your code when u compile them... and there for write better code. so open platforms rocks!.... there are better than .net.. not all of them again... .net might be good in windows... casue its all closed but when something is open... you can better utilize it.... unlike closed ones. and thats my point here. i was not talking about your code! hehe.. sorry that i was bad at expressing my opinion.. last time

According to your argument, Any language which runs on Opensource OS is an OPEN source Language ? he he.

pls clear the confusion, those are 5 mutually exclusive things,

• 
  [1]Open source OS (ubuntu)
  [2]Closed source Languages (like C#)
  [3]Open source Languages (like RUBY and PHP)
  [4]Open source apps written in any language.
  [5]Closed source apps written in any language.

 

[madurax86]

i'm usin OpenSuse 10.2; but if ur thiking of linux it'd b better if u hav an ADSL connection

 

[djmlog103]

TRUE!!!

i'm usin OpenSuse 10.2; but if ur thiking of linux it'd b better if u hav an ADSL connection

yes. i agree. cuz unlike for windows you dont have softwared where you can get frmo the store in sl. cuz of that i think its a good idea to have good net connection to get some cool softwares.
you have a point man..

 

[madurax86]

According to your argument, Any language which runs on Opensource OS is a OPEN source Language ? he he.

pls clear the confusion, here there are 5 mutually exclusive things,

1. 
   [1]Open source OS (ubuntu)
   [2]Closed source Languages (like C#)
   [3]Open source Languages (like RUBY and PHP)
   [4]Open source apps written in any language.
   [5]Closed source apps written in any language.

--- ppl i think u hav got sumthin wrong here; programin langs r mostly closed source softwares --coz if ppl start creatin special editions here n dere it'd b a prob for da developers hu use dat lang. But there're OpenSource softwares the target of bein opensource is to catch n successfully answer to all of it's bugs. N da other thing is community. Linux is built on the opensource concept n it will always b an opensource development.(but there r sum companies whu build their commercial versions).

OpenSource doesnt mean free software - wht opensource means is that u can edit/modify/copy the original code of a program without harming the author or the program...its dat simple

 

[lasanka]

hey cool cool tnx for posting!

 

[dineitdark]

According to your argument, Any language which runs on Opensource OS is a OPEN source Language ? he he.

pls clear the confusion, here there are 5 mutually exclusive things,

1. 
   [1]Open source OS (ubuntu)
   [2]Closed source Languages (like C#)
   [3]Open source Languages (like RUBY and PHP)
   [4]Open source apps written in any language.
   [5]Closed source apps written in any language.

oh shit.... man ur confused!

According to your argument, Any language which runs on Opensource OS is a OPEN source Language ? he he.

languages can't run on anything. but binaries/scripts(with help of an interpreter do no i don't say anything like that. its stupid! ok get me clear this time

a langauge which have a open source compiler/interpreter(who's code is open, and is licened under the GPL) is a open source lang.

a lang is there becasue it have a compiler or a interpreter for it. which can understand the code that you write and convert it to binary code. so the compiler plays a MAIN role in a lang. and if the compiler is open source there is a advantage in that.



pls clear the confusion, here there are 5 mutually exclusive things,

1. 
   [1]Open source OS (ubuntu)
   [2]Closed source Languages (like C#)
   [3]Open source Languages (like RUBY and PHP)
   [4]Open source apps written in any language.
   [5]Closed source apps written in any language.

there are'nt any 'closed source lang'!!! hehe.. yeah i gues you are tring to state the fact that when you write a program in c,c++.... and compile it. u can't understand that as source code. so someone should give u the source code with the application which is in binary form and there for is not readable to human beans(uh.... now there must be some super hackers who can read binaries! ...

but scripting langs such as PHP comes as source code it self... so anyone can understand it, but you can encode them and TRY to hide the code

 

[dineitdark]

i'm usin OpenSuse 10.2; but if ur thiking of linux it'd b better if u hav an ADSL connection

i agree its much easier when u have ADSL...

 

[dineitdark]

--- ppl i think u hav got sumthin wrong here; programin langs r mostly closed source softwares --coz if ppl start creatin special editions here n dere it'd b a prob for da developers hu use dat lang. But there're OpenSource softwares the target of bein opensource is to catch n successfully answer to all of it's bugs. N da other thing is community. Linux is built on the opensource concept n it will always b an opensource development.(but there r sum companies whu build their commercial versions).

OpenSource doesnt mean free software - wht opensource means is that u can edit/modify/copy the original code of a program without harming the author or the program...its dat simple

all the compilers in linux are open source(gcc...etc). yes most of the people get the wrong idea when someone says open source. it simply the freedom that it gives... the ability to modify, reuse, redistribute... and improve... open source has a lot of benefits....

 

[asangalk]

True

--- ppl i think u hav got sumthin wrong here; programin langs r mostly closed source softwares --coz if ppl start creatin special editions here n dere it'd b a prob for da developers hu use dat lang. But there're OpenSource softwares the target of bein opensource is to catch n successfully answer to all of it's bugs. N da other thing is community. Linux is built on the opensource concept n it will always b an opensource development.(but there r sum companies whu build their commercial versions).

OpenSource doesnt mean free software - wht opensource means is that u can edit/modify/copy the original code of a program without harming the author or the program...its dat simple

True.
We should not Mix FREE AND OPEN SOURCE. As i see "open source" is a subset of "free"()correct me if i am wrong).
From the very beginning i was posting about UBUNTU Vx XP not Opensource vs closed source but unfortunately ppl tends to mix the things up.

machang djmlog103

who talked about ubuntu here...lol

Its the name of this thread lol !!

machang dineitdark are you contradicting yourself here ? you said

a langauge which have a open source compiler/interpreter(who's code is open, and is licened under the GPL) is a open source lang.

Then you said

there are'nt any 'closed source lang'!!! hehe

You believe in Opensource languages and at the same time Rejects the opposite "Close source language"

or does it mean that Every Language compiler/interpreter is Open sourced ? he he

how about C# compiler and .NET framework which is having both interpreter/compiler and framework as closed source ? what do you call such languages ? (according to you )

you said

all those are open platforms, there compilers, interpreters are all open source! thats what i was tring to say now when the compilers are open... u can just look into them and have a nice idea of what really happen to your code when u compile them... and there for write better code. so open platforms rocks!.

As i was talking about UBUNTU vs XP (thread name is Ubuntu not opensource or anything else he he), XP does Support all these Opensource Languages !(TELL ME ANY WHICH XP DOES NOT SUPPORT) More generally regardless of the platform's opensourcenes one can use those languages to gain the benefits of been opensource(as you claim). so with your logic XP too can have the benefits of Opensource languages right ?

 

[thusithagh]

yes! of course! it is still in beta!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! hehe.. its there for testing pal... but it is stable enough to run in ya desktop

is dat true. then i should download it.

 

[dineitdark]

True.
We should not Mix FREE AND OPEN SOURCE. As i see "open source" is a subset of "free"()correct me if i am wrong).
From the very beginning i was posting about UBUNTU Vx XP not Opensource vs closed source but unfortunately ppl tends to mix the things up.

machang djmlog103
Its the name of this thread lol !!

machang dineitdark are you contradicting yourself here ? you said


Then you said


You believe in Opensource languages and at the same time Rejects the opposite "Close source language"

or does it mean that Every Language compiler/interpreter is Open sourced ? he he

how about C# compiler and .NET framework which is having both interpreter/compiler and framework as closed source ? what do you call such languages ? (according to you )

you said


As i was talking about UBUNTU vs XP (thread name is Ubuntu not opensource or anything else he he), XP does Support all these Opensource Languages !(TELL ME ANY WHICH XP DOES NOT SUPPORT) More generally regardless of the platform's opensourcenes one can use those languages to gain the benefits of been opensource(as you claim). so with your logic XP too can have the benefits of Opensource languages right ? c

haha.. nice point well i guess i should correct my self. there are no real closed or open langs... as langs can't be closed(or else how can anyone program in them?)... but compilers and interpreters can. ok.

.net ... stuff are closed(not the lang, but the compiler, IDE....)

and well yar its NOT that xp is supporting anything, its just that those projects are supporting xp(as most of the people are using it). so u can't give any credit to xp for that. many of those open source projects cared enough to port there compilers to windows platforms such as XP.... its not the work of XP so it deserve no credit for. i mean XP does not become something that support them insted XP is supported by them and yes people using XP can and DO gain a lots of benifits from open source. i mean even elakiri runs open source, so we who use this gain a lot from open source no matter what OS we use. its the concept.

but XP is not open source. so what ? well as it is closed. it is limited. u can't play around with XP as you play with linux. if you want to custermize XP to the full lenght can you do it? no casue its closed source. but its not the case with linux.

so simply if u are with XP yes u can enjoy the joys of open source(which is very good!) but you are missing a lot!

 

[dineitdark]

is dat true. then i should download it.

i'm downloading it. they have said that they are releasing the final ver in aprial... but hey i can't wait till aprial!!! hehe i'l downoload and install it now... it gets uptade along the way so it'll be like the last release automaticaly

 

[amila325]

he he ! good one. No they are not stray dogs
Here i am talking about ubuntu my friend
Not about those dedicated systems for Multimedia productions.

oh yeah we are talking about ubuntu. machan 1st tell me do you have a original cd of XP or Vista if you have, you have all the right to talk like this

 

[asangalk]

well i guess i should correct my self. there are no real closed or open langs... as langs can't be closed(or else how can anyone program in them?)... but compilers and interpreters can. ok.

No, You can say Open/Closed to a language.( It is not where you got wrong buddy )

Example : Perl .
Goto this link
http://www.activestate.com/products/languages.plex

cheers.

 

[amila325]

Cummon guys we wont say that windows is nothing and sicks. but we want to say is that now linux is the best and ubuntu is one of that

 

[asangalk]

oh yeah we are talking about ubuntu. machan 1st tell me do you have a original cd of XP or Vista if you have, you have all the right to talk like this

Ha ha ! That is unfair machang (and kind of negative) , "LADA DEYIN SATHUTU WEEMA" is not applicable when you assess things. You should have an open mind and you should equally see the pros and cons in both the products , just hating something cos it is not affordable is like "Nariya Midi Thithai kiuwa wage".

GOOD is GOOD ! weather it is FREE or PAID

 

[amila325]

Ha ha ! That is unfair machang (and kind of negative) , "LADA DEYIN SATHUTU WEEMA" is not applicable when you assess things. You should have an open mind and you should equally see the pros and cons in both the products , just hating something cos it is not affordable is like "Nariya Midi Thithai kiuwa wage".

GOOD is GOOD ! weather it is FREE or PAID

Yeah dat is something like nariya midi thiththai kiuwa wage thama oh yeah and ubuntu is good and it is free

 

[mlakmal]

Cummon guys we wont say that windows is nothing and sicks. but we want to say is that now linux is the best and ubuntu is one of that

i dnt believe lynx is da best .... its one of da best same as windows

 

[asangalk]

Thank you

I thank you all (including dineitdark,djmlog103,amila325,etc) for making this thread a meaning full one, hence it let me learn somthing new today. It was such a pleasure to have a discussion with you guys !

See you later and Good luck with what ever the OS you are using .Have fun.
Bye 4 now.

 

[djmlog103]

Whoa!!!

I thank you all (including dineitdark,djmlog103,amila325,etc) for making this thread a meaning full one, hence it let me learn somthing new today. It was such a pleasure to have a discussion with you guys !

See you later and Good luck with what ever the OS you are using .Have fun.
Bye 4 now.

i was out for like 1 or 2 hours, what progress you guys made. im simply seechless..!!!
thanks all you guys to making my first post a sucess, and hey asanaga, machan you gave a fine start too...

guys. im we're doing progress here.
in sri lanka most of the people are living on xp, i was one too, wel anyways cant forget our past ne? xp has done a great job in day to day life, but i think we should not limit our minds to just that, we should search for new things and try others OS's... should be open minded about what we use.
in my university, we have 55 people in Software Engineering batch, and some of them are really hard users of XP, and some of them didnt know what linux was. and we were asked to program in linux bu our lecturers. so we did.. now all those xp lovers are beginnig to like linux as well. so you see, if you try linux a little bit youll fall in love with it. if not (you get a problem) please use this wondrful forum to clear your problem, cuz there is a solution somewhere!!!

what do you guys think?