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[Anusha]

you are correct i have no idea on how vista works! but my basic point is loading and unneeded module to memory will take some space in your RAM which is wasted because it can be utilized for someother purpose which is really important....

yes yes yes! linux and all the nix systems were using window managers from some long time back. and now only windows people thought of coping that into there OS hehe..

Well, Vista learns user's usage patterns for sometime. It will load the most likely things a user is supposed to do at a given time. For example, say as soon as you boot into Vista, you load Firefox and Outlook. It will load the required modules to the RAM so that these things load faster. Say you go to lunch at 1PM every day and come back at 1:30. When you come, you usually load Windows Media Player and listen to music. It will have all the required things cached in RAM to give you lightning speed. This sort of speed could only be noticed in XP if you disabled pagefile, optimized RAM for more cache, and had loaded the program once before in the same user session.
You are not running out of RAM because of these things. Vista is so aggressive with its memory management. When a new program requires RAM, Vista can always give that program that RAM.

 

[dineitdark]

Well, Vista learns user's usage patterns for sometime. It will load the most likely things a user is supposed to do at a given time. For example, say as soon as you boot into Vista, you load Firefox and Outlook. It will load the required modules to the RAM so that these things load faster. Say you go to lunch at 1PM every day and come back at 1:30. When you come, you usually load Windows Media Player and listen to music. It will have all the required things cached in RAM to give you lightning speed. This sort of speed could only be noticed in XP if you disabled pagefile, optimized RAM for more cache, and had loaded the program once before in the same user session.
You are not running out of RAM because of these things. Vista is so aggressive with its memory management. When a new program requires RAM, Vista can always give that program that RAM.

AI stuff sounds cool... may be someone will code that stuff to the linux kernel as well... but may be they already have it... but eh, vista require so much RAM for that little GUI!!!(when compared with 3D stuff in beryl, Compzi ) so its wasting RAM... i mean look at the minimum specs for a vista PC...

 

[Anusha]

AI stuff sounds cool... may be someone will code that stuff to the linux kernel as well... but may be they already have it... but eh, vista require so much RAM for that little GUI!!!(when compared with 3D stuff in beryl, Compzi ) so its wasting RAM... i mean look at the minimum specs for a vista PC...

Sure it requires somewhat higher specs. And I don't like it that much either.
But it's not the GUI that's using all those RAM. Mostly the services. Even if you turn off the GPU accelerated GUI, it will not lower the RAM consumption a lot.

You know, OSX can't do well with 512MB either. It requires 1GB or more smooth operation.

 

[dineitdark]

Sure it requires somewhat higher specs. And I don't like it that much either.
But it's not the GUI that's using all those RAM. Mostly the services. Even if you turn off the GPU accelerated GUI, it will not lower the RAM consumption a lot.

You know, OSX can't do well with 512MB either. It requires 1GB or more smooth operation.

haha... but not linux

 

[Anusha]

haha... but not linux

*nix uses less RAM doesn't necessarily mean it's a good thing. It only means that lower-end PCs can run such OSes.

If *nix systems could be programmed to use more RAM, it might give better performance. It's much better than using only 256MB of 1GB RAM and running slower than which could otherwise deliver much better performance by utilizing 512MB of 1GB RAM. Don't you think so?

 

[shamike]

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[dineitdark]

*nix uses less RAM doesn't necessarily mean it's a good thing. It only means that lower-end PCs can run such OSes.

If *nix systems could be programmed to use more RAM, it might give better performance. It's much better than using only 256MB of 1GB RAM and running slower than which could otherwise deliver much better performance by utilizing 512MB of 1GB RAM. Don't you think so?

well yar if the system really needs the RAM it will utilize it... i mean if u take a sys with 512, when the sys is doing stuff... it moves the less used processes to the swap part(virtual mem, in the hard).. so if u have 1GB then that stuff which was moved to swap will remain in RAM that will increase the speed.

and if linux can do more with less that means it can utilize RAM better... i mean if windows can handle 10 apps pararearly linux can do 15 or even more... i mean linux will not stop using the extra RAM if it really needs it. there is no such limit...

 

[gayannr]

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machan this is not the thread u should be in

 

[dineitdark]

machan this is not the thread u should be in

yeah right... i was wondering what the heck is this??? hehe

 

[Anusha]

well yar if the system really needs the RAM it will utilize it... i mean if u take a sys with 512, when the sys is doing stuff... it moves the less used processes to the swap part(virtual mem, in the hard).. so if u have 1GB then that stuff which was moved to swap will remain in RAM that will increase the speed.

and if linux can do more with less that means it can utilize RAM better... i mean if windows can handle 10 apps pararearly linux can do 15 or even more... i mean linux will not stop using the extra RAM if it really needs it. there is no such limit...

Can you recommend a Live CD to check Linux? I wanna see how it performs compared to Vista in my PC.

 

[The_Ace]

you cannot check performance from LiveCDs. You can only check features, apps available and stuff like that. Main reason is since its runing off the CD, it's going to take time to uncompress the apps in to memory and run it.

However if you do want to try Linux out, PCLinuxOS, Mandriva , Mepis, Knoppix & Ubuntu will be good distros to try.

 

[Anusha]

you cannot check performance from LiveCDs. You can only check features, apps available and stuff like that. Main reason is since its runing off the CD, it's going to take time to uncompress the apps in to memory and run it.

However if you do want to try Linux out, PCLinuxOS, Mandriva , Mepis, Knoppix & Ubuntu will be good distros to try.

Well, I thought that would be a problem. Maybe I will install it on dad's PC.

 

[The_Ace]

Recommend you give PCLinuxOS a try. Has a good hardware detection system and drivers for new video cards. Just download the version for your Video card and give it a spin.
Its a LiveCD so you can run it and see if everything is working before actually installing it.

 

[dineitdark]

Recommend you give PCLinuxOS a try. Has a good hardware detection system and drivers for new video cards. Just download the version for your Video card and give it a spin.
Its a LiveCD so you can run it and see if everything is working before actually installing it.

yeah i downloaded it recently and its nice... open suse is a another good os...

 

[dineitdark]

Can you recommend a Live CD to check Linux? I wanna see how it performs compared to Vista in my PC.

apart from other stuff... i think knoppix is a another good one. but eh! macho u cant compare how it performs from a liveCD!!! hehe.. a live CD has approx 2Gigs of software in it.. packed together... so it is decompressing them on the fly... so obveicely it will be a bit slow... and you will need some RAM as your HD is not toched at all...

 

[dineitdark]

if u want 100% out of your PCs hardware... and if u are ready to sacrifice sometime for it... get gentoo and install it... u will learn a lots of things about ur computer while installing it... and u will compile a OS with all the other stuff just for your computer! that mean the compilation is optimized for your hardware, processor.... man ur computer will be ultra fast!

 

[amila325]

dudes i have put ubuntu 6.10 hi hi hi and configured wine as well it's just look like vista now im trying to get xp within linux

 

[The_Ace]

if u want 100% out of your PCs hardware... and if u are ready to sacrifice sometime for it... get gentoo and install it... u will learn a lots of things about ur computer while installing it... and u will compile a OS with all the other stuff just for your computer! that mean the compilation is optimized for your hardware, processor.... man ur computer will be ultra fast!

Gentoo is not for the faint of heat! Suggest you try this if you have 2 PCs (or virtual PCs) connected to the internet. You'll be spending quite a bit of time surfing and trouble shooting plus the time it takes to download source packages and compile them.

 

[amila325]

apart from other stuff... i think knoppix is a another good one. but eh! macho u cant compare how it performs from a liveCD!!! hehe.. a live CD has approx 2Gigs of software in it.. packed together... so it is decompressing them on the fly... so obveicely it will be a bit slow... and you will need some RAM as your HD is not toched at all...

and mahcan ubuntu is also giving live cd

 

[The_Ace]

Dude, Ubuntu isnt the only LiveCD based distro around. There are better options out there.