What is better: an experiment with winrar winzip and 7zip

mkranga

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jude725 said:
I like WIN RAR from all because it Zips and extracts very quickly
I hate WinZip bcoz It is a very slow compressor and it takes so much time.
bt i most hate is i have to press I agree when i doing anything from WinZip
WinZip SUCKS!

ya hooo .......!
ya ya winrar still growing yahoooo......
Seems to be we got the winner.

Rar=8
7Zip=1
WinZip=0
 

Anusha

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mkranga said:
ya hooo .......!
ya ya winrar still growing yahoooo......
Seems to be we got the winner.

Rar=8
7Zip=1
WinZip=0
The dumbest analysis ever! More people use it != it's better.

"Most people have crappy PCs" - It doesn't mean crappy PCs are cool :P
"Most people use Windows" - It doesn't mean it is better :P
"Most people drive in cheap cars" = It doesn't mean cheap cars are better :P

Very funny how you have blind loyalty towards an application you crack and use...
 

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Anusha said:
The dumbest analysis ever! More people use it != it's better.

"Most people have crappy PCs" - It doesn't mean crappy PCs are cool :P
"Most people use Windows" - It doesn't mean it is better :P
"Most people drive in cheap cars" = It doesn't mean cheap cars are better :P

Very funny how you have blind loyalty towards an application you crack and use...

I expect something more than that from u.
Hoooooo............. Another unsatisfied customer

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    mkranga said:
    I expect something more than that from u.
    Hoooooo............. Another unsatisfied customer

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    mkranga said:

    Another unsatisfied customer.
    Yes its out of proportion,ur judgment and out from you too. Loooooser.;)

    Hooooooooooooo.......................


    The term "unsatisfied customer" can't be applied to Sri Lankans. There is nothing called brand loyality in Sri Lanka. Definetly there is zero potential for brand loyality among Sri Lankan software users. Almost all software used here are cracked pirated copies. Those who use these type of sofware have no respect for it since they got it "free" (you would pay atmost Rs100, If you paid more than that for your pirated disks you are a freakin looser). You can't become an "unsatisfied customer" since you could simply shift to another competiting product which you can obtain "free" cracked and ready to use.

    Say you bought a software (eg Adobe Creative Suite [some $900+]) and you find it doesn't stand up to your expections. Then you have the right to be an unsatisfied customer, because you paid for a software. You may not be able to raise the required amount of money ($900+) to buy a competiting software. You have no money and the product you bought is no good, You now have the right to be unsatisfied, demand your money back from where you bought that product.

    Say you are satisfied of the product you bought, you marvel at how it increases your productivity, happy about it's userfriendliness. Now you are a satisfied customer, You have the right to promote, recommend the product you are using. Say there comes a new product which claims to have better fuctions than the one you are currently using, but unfortunately you don't have money to give it a test. The software you are using serves you well so you decide to use it further and forget the new product. That's genuine brand loyality.

    Now let me take myself as a typical Sri Lankan, software user. I go to my favorite CD shop as "buy" a CD of Photoshop for Rs60. I use it and find it suits my tasks perfectly. Then a friend comes and tell me PaintShop(Corel) is better. I get curious and the eagerness to try out some thing new promptly takes me back to the Cd shop, and I shell another Rs60 for a CD of PaintShop. I don't have to spend over Rs 10 000 to quench my curiousity. Even if I find the new product I "bought" not good, I'll feel no remorse (after all I spend only Rs 60). I have no right to be an unsatisfied customer

    But take an average American/European (hoping he is not a torrent guzzler :lol:) He can't afford to spend 1000s of dollars/euros just for quenching is curiosity to test new software. Those type of people stick to a product they use and use it even new versions of the same thing is available. He is helpless but also satisfied with the product he use.


    I hope you got the fact that we can't apply "customer satisfaction" to ourself atleast in case of software.

    Comming to the topic of WinRar,7Zip etc. . .If there is a better product, you can simply shift to it. You don't need to spend a load of bucks to transfer to the new software. You can download it free, or try your local software dealer. :P
    If I find something better than 7zip, I'll shift to it. WinRK seems to be good. (it's commercial but the crack is available). I don't have to pay anything to shift a better product. :lol:
    Same in the case of browsers, after using Firefox for sometime, I shifted to Opera since it's better. If something even better comes, I don't think twice to jump the fence.(after all it costs me nothing).

    It's really unbelievable how you became a "satisfied content and calmed [read brainwashed] customer" of WinRar. Did you pay for your copy of WinRar, or do you have any "association :P" with Alexander or Eugene Roshal.
     

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    coolioWiZ said:
    The term "unsatisfied customer" can't be applied to Sri Lankans. There is nothing called brand loyality in Sri Lanka. Definetly there is zero potential for brand loyality among Sri Lankan software users. Almost all software used here are cracked pirated copies. Those who use these type of sofware have no respect for it since they got it "free" (you would pay atmost Rs100, If you paid more than that for your pirated disks you are a freakin looser). You can't become an "unsatisfied customer" since you could simply shift to another competiting product which you can obtain "free" cracked and ready to use.

    Say you bought a software (eg Adobe Creative Suite [some $900+]) and you find it doesn't stand up to your expections. Then you have the right to be an unsatisfied customer, because you paid for a software. You may not be able to raise the required amount of money ($900+) to buy a competiting software. You have no money and the product you bought is no good, You now have the right to be unsatisfied, demand your money back from where you bought that product.

    Say you are satisfied of the product you bought, you marvel at how it increases your productivity, happy about it's userfriendliness. Now you are a satisfied customer, You have the right to promote, recommend the product you are using. Say there comes a new product which claims to have better fuctions than the one you are currently using, but unfortunately you don't have money to give it a test. The software you are using serves you well so you decide to use it further and forget the new product. That's genuine brand loyality.

    Now let me take myself as a typical Sri Lankan, software user. I go to my favorite CD shop as "buy" a CD of Photoshop for Rs60. I use it and find it suits my tasks perfectly. Then a friend comes and tell me PaintShop(Corel) is better. I get curious and the eagerness to try out some thing new promptly takes me back to the Cd shop, and I shell another Rs60 for a CD of PaintShop. I don't have to spend over Rs 10 000 to quench my curiousity. Even if I find the new product I "bought" not good, I'll feel no remorse (after all I spend only Rs 60). I have no right to be an unsatisfied customer

    But take an average American/European (hoping he is not a torrent guzzler :lol:) He can't afford to spend 1000s of dollars/euros just for quenching is curiosity to test new software. Those type of people stick to a product they use and use it even new versions of the same thing is available. He is helpless but also satisfied with the product he use.


    I hope you got the fact that we can't apply "customer satisfaction" to ourself atleast in case of software.

    Comming to the topic of WinRar,7Zip etc. . .If there is a better product, you can simply shift to it. You don't need to spend a load of bucks to transfer to the new software. You can download it free, or try your local software dealer. :P
    If I find something better than 7zip, I'll shift to it. WinRK seems to be good. (it's commercial but the crack is available). I don't have to pay anything to shift a better product. :lol:
    Same in the case of browsers, after using Firefox for sometime, I shifted to Opera since it's better. If something even better comes, I don't think twice to jump the fence.(after all it costs me nothing).

    It's really unbelievable how you became a "satisfied content and calmed [read brainwashed] customer" of WinRar. Did you pay for your copy of WinRar, or do you have any "association :P" with Alexander or Eugene Roshal.

    :shocked:

    amboooooo.....................:shocked:



    kauda mewa kiyawanne.


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    Anusha

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    mkranga said:
    I expect something more than that from u.
    Hoooooo............. Another unsatisfied customer

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    Sorry to disappoint you :rolleyes::rolleyes:
    You are the unsatisfied customer because you say WinRAR is better because more people use it without giving any useful analysis.
     
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    Anusha

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    mkranga said:
    :shocked:

    amboooooo.....................:shocked:



    kauda mewa kiyawanne.


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    No point arguing with this guy, coolioWiZ. We won't get anything in return anyway. Let him live in his fancy dream world...
     

    coolioWiZ

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    Anusha said:
    No point arguing with this guy, coolioWiZ. We won't get anything in return anyway. Let him live in his fancy dream world...

    :yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
    Looks you are correct Anusha.
    He needs more than his current brain quotient to understand such a simple thing :(
     

    mkranga

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    Anusha said:
    No point arguing with this guy, coolioWiZ. We won't get anything in return anyway. Let him live in his fancy dream world...

    The truth that you can’t accept is we all like short and sweet.
    That’s why winrar got 8 and 7zip got * 
    Sooner (or later) 7zip will get handy (like linux). Then i'll be there too

    u btr Reed next too
     

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    coolioWiZ said:
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    Looks you are correct Anusha.
    He needs more than his current brain quotient to understand such a simple thing :(
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    moda joduwa

    Let me tell u something
    When I came ek I put thread about file sharing
    I tried to glorify free service
    and someone tried to say rapidshare is better.
    So now we r hear. Don’t u see something == hear.
    More simplifying, Fact doesn’t change but the persons.


    Don’t loose so easily. I’m getting bored.
     
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    Anusha

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    You are the one who don't want to read an explanation, saying it's too long....:P

    You are really funny. :rolleyes:

    Tell us one good reason why you think WinRAR is better, except the fact that you THINK most people use it.

    1. I've shown7-zip compressed certain files at 3-10 times faster on a 64bit platform and faster in 32bit platform as well, but not as much as in 64bit. What more do you need? It's not compressing only that matters. Every archive I download, extracts faster in 7-zip. Only time when WinRAR and 7-zip performance is equal is when I extract a 700MB movie, because the hard disk has a lot to do in that case.

    2. 7-zip is free (maybe not a big importance)

    3. 7-zip one of the few (3?) archivers that natively comes in 64bit
     
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    7zip is faster... the 64 bit version is even faster... WinRAR is nice...

    No need to argue... Install both.... :P:P:P
     

    coolioWiZ

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    mkranga said:
    moda joduwa

    Let me tell u something
    When I came ek I put thread about file sharing
    I tried to glorify free service
    and someone tried to say rapidshare is better.
    So now we r hear. Don’t u see something == hear.
    More simplifying, Fact doesn’t change but the persons.


    Don’t loose so easily. I’m getting bored.

    I'm really waiting until you get bored with this thread.

    now since that "someone" you refer above is me, I must clarify my stance. the reason I said rapidshare is better is due to it's reliability in file hosting.
    file hosting is a real serious business, it's a process needing extreme dedicated bandwidth and large volumes of storage space, a good multiserver environment to prevent deadlocks, resistance to DDOS is a must. Rapidshare has those. So it's reliable. I can host a file and not worry about it going down (let's say the file is not illegal content) as long as it's active.

    All the above doesn't mean I'll not dump rapidshare if a better service comes out. Everything I said in this thread and your thread is valid and not contradictory. :)

    I must ask you again, why do you say winrar is better. I'll agree with you if you can provide some reasonable statistics on why it's better. I still seriously think, that you may have some deal with the brothers Alexander and Eugene Roshal :lol:
     
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    mkranga

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    Anusha said:
    You are the one who don't want to read an explanation, saying it's too long....:P

    You are really funny. :rolleyes:

    Tell us one good reason why you think WinRAR is better, except the fact that you THINK most people use it.

    1. I've shown7-zip compressed certain files at 3-10 times faster on a 64bit platform and faster in 32bit platform as well, but not as much as in 64bit. What more do you need? It's not compressing only that matters. Every archive I download, extracts faster in 7-zip. Only time when WinRAR and 7-zip performance is equal is when I extract a 700MB movie, because the hard disk has a lot to do in that case.

    2. 7-zip is free (maybe not a big importance)

    3. 7-zip one of the few (3?) archivers that natively comes in 64bit

    First at all, I read all of it and you **** guys cant see true.u Can’t accept it. (Native human’s core.)So sad

    Tell us one good reason why you think WinRAR is better
    Y should I. Ask from others. There should be a good reason.

    1.On 32 bit, there is no dif on 7zip and rar performance.
    (2.Of curse I can crack it my self)