sri_lion said:Thanks for pointing out the mistake
And I did not claim to be experiencing what I'm typing.. I dont think even you do, even you are still a "Pruthagjana"
I typed what I understood!
Perhaps you can answer your own questions with the correct explanations if mine isn't right!
I respect your humility.
That shows further that
you are closer to the track.
If we try to understand
Dhamma using our mind only we are bound to misunderstand.
Especially because it is about both mind and body.
Buddha's teaching is about ourselves,
if we relate Dhamma to us.
You are correct about my pruthagjana state.
I am not even Sotapanna.
My interest is not about them.
I want to purify my mind as possible as I can.
I have experienced the 3 kleshas as physical sensations,
just before they turn in to tanha.
Vedana pachchaya tanha.
Vedana is the only cause we can experience in this moment.
Vipassana has taught me how to be aare of the sensations
and how to be equanimous toward them
eradicating Kleshas.
I will tell what I understood
in relation to my Vipassana experience.
Do not accept or reject them without relating them
to your own experience some day.
Once someone start looking at his/her own self
he/she can see that
all the things you typed are there.
They are symptoms.
It is not possible to eradicate
the symptoms like dasa sanyojana
or nievarana.
We have to act at the base level.
Base is the 3 kleshas.
everything else stems out from them.
If the mind is free from them
there will be only
Metta, Muditha, Karuna and Upekkha.
In every moment one of these kleshas are present,
in a gross or subtle way.
Dislike is a subtle form of dwesha.
Hatred is a gross form of dwesha.
Romance is a subtle form of Raga.
Rape is a gross form of raga.
Sleepiness is a subtle form of Moha.
Unconsciousness is a subtle form of Moha.
An action is a result of a thought.
A thought is a result of an emotion.
An emotion is a result of a sensation.
Though we are not able to feel
whole body is full of sensations.
If you lie down
after breaking sleep for a whole night
you may feel tingling all over the body.
And when you feel a strong emotion
you would feel lot of related sensations in the body.
Vedana - Sensation is the link between body and mind.
If we can be aware of the sensation
and be equanimous toward it
the samskaras arose will be eradicated.
As I understand,
Samskara is the dynamic state of Klesha.
They are bound to decay.
vaya dhamma sankhara.
When we allow Samskaras to arise
which will be felt as sensations of the body
by maintaining Upeksha toward these sensations
sanskaras gets eradicated
weakening Pancha nievarana,
Dasa Sanyojana and all the other symptoms.
From the very first moment you start doing this
results occur.
Dhammo Akaliko
The journey from A to B begins
as we start to be aware of
Body
Sensations in the body.
Mind
What arises in mind.
Buddha says in the beginning of Satipatthana Sutta
The one and only way
Ekayano maggo
to Purify the being
Sattanan visuddhiya.
is being aware of
Body
Sensations in the body.
Mind
What arises in mind.
Chattaro satipatthana.
I hope you will study Satipatthana sutta too,
and start practicing soon.
I recommend with my 18 years of experience in this technique
www.dhamma.org.
I hope to reply my questions as you suggested,
as I was planning even before,
but inspired a lot by your suggestion.
Thanks for carrying out the discussion,
I tend to understand my experiences more
when I discuss.
That shows further that
you are closer to the track.
If we try to understand
Dhamma using our mind only we are bound to misunderstand.
Especially because it is about both mind and body.
Buddha's teaching is about ourselves,
if we relate Dhamma to us.
You are correct about my pruthagjana state.
I am not even Sotapanna.
My interest is not about them.
I want to purify my mind as possible as I can.
I have experienced the 3 kleshas as physical sensations,
just before they turn in to tanha.
Vedana pachchaya tanha.
Vedana is the only cause we can experience in this moment.
Vipassana has taught me how to be aare of the sensations
and how to be equanimous toward them
eradicating Kleshas.
I will tell what I understood
in relation to my Vipassana experience.
Do not accept or reject them without relating them
to your own experience some day.
Once someone start looking at his/her own self
he/she can see that
all the things you typed are there.
They are symptoms.
It is not possible to eradicate
the symptoms like dasa sanyojana
or nievarana.
We have to act at the base level.
Base is the 3 kleshas.
everything else stems out from them.
If the mind is free from them
there will be only
Metta, Muditha, Karuna and Upekkha.
In every moment one of these kleshas are present,
in a gross or subtle way.
Dislike is a subtle form of dwesha.
Hatred is a gross form of dwesha.
Romance is a subtle form of Raga.
Rape is a gross form of raga.
Sleepiness is a subtle form of Moha.
Unconsciousness is a subtle form of Moha.
An action is a result of a thought.
A thought is a result of an emotion.
An emotion is a result of a sensation.
Though we are not able to feel
whole body is full of sensations.
If you lie down
after breaking sleep for a whole night
you may feel tingling all over the body.
And when you feel a strong emotion
you would feel lot of related sensations in the body.
Vedana - Sensation is the link between body and mind.
If we can be aware of the sensation
and be equanimous toward it
the samskaras arose will be eradicated.
As I understand,
Samskara is the dynamic state of Klesha.
They are bound to decay.
vaya dhamma sankhara.
When we allow Samskaras to arise
which will be felt as sensations of the body
by maintaining Upeksha toward these sensations
sanskaras gets eradicated
weakening Pancha nievarana,
Dasa Sanyojana and all the other symptoms.
From the very first moment you start doing this
results occur.
Dhammo Akaliko
The journey from A to B begins
as we start to be aware of
Body
Sensations in the body.
Mind
What arises in mind.
Buddha says in the beginning of Satipatthana Sutta
The one and only way
Ekayano maggo
to Purify the being
Sattanan visuddhiya.
is being aware of
Body
Sensations in the body.
Mind
What arises in mind.
Chattaro satipatthana.
I hope you will study Satipatthana sutta too,
and start practicing soon.
I recommend with my 18 years of experience in this technique
www.dhamma.org.
I hope to reply my questions as you suggested,
as I was planning even before,
but inspired a lot by your suggestion.
Thanks for carrying out the discussion,
I tend to understand my experiences more
when I discuss.
why cant u post like everybody else ? its a fuking pain in the ass to read your comments because of this pathetic shit.....
