Wiccans and Witches!

coolioWiZ

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    vishva8kumara said:
    Why balls are involved in it...

    The earth is a sphere. If you drop a water drop at zero gravity it shapes in to a ball. Many fruits and vegitable fruits are spherical in shape. Why... It is because sphere is the three dimentional shape with highest Volume to Surface area ratio. If you make a pyramid or a Cube or a Sphere with the same amount (volume) of a substance. Sphere has the least surface area. Least surface area means least drainage of energy. If you make the same amount of iron in to those different 3D shapes and heat to the same temperature and let them cool on same environment, Sphere will take the longest time and cool slower than the rest.

    There may be complex logic behind the theories of magick. Those are always connected to nature. Now we are able to explain many of those in terms of science. Those days, the ancients discovered them through intuition and from nature. Even without much detailed knowledge on the magickal theories, still you can learn and use it...

    LOL i was not thinking about the properties of a sphere, that it got the highest surface to volume ratio . . damn me i should have got it at first chance coz in my biology course they state the reason why cells are spherical or near spherical.

    I also agree that many traditional beliefs can now be explained by science, but still the vast majority is out of bounds and mysterious . . that mystic nature is what attracts ppl to it and also it's the same thing which will make ppl fear it. . and fear brings suppression.
     

    coolioWiZ

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    vishva8kumara said:
    Visualization is one of the basic and most important skill in Magick and Witchcraft. When you Visualize something with perect concentration your mind and energy shapes accoring to your minds picture. Mind and its energy is what we basically use. The universe also shapes according to it.

    I attended a workshop on healing this weekend. We actually practiced on something very simillar to what you have said. We Visualized and Energized a fire, and actually it gave off heat, But not sufficient to burn a twig. But we were warned to extinguish it before leaving the place because if we leave the place without extinguishing the fire we energized in visualization later it would manifest actually and do harm...

    If the power of a group of people joined together it will be possible to manifest a real pyre on thy twig... :)

    involving the mind here is far fetched IMO, coz i can't get the fact how the mind which is the "organ" to control our own self can be an organ to influence anything beyond our body limits. I might be thinking too scientifically or maybe it's the limit enforced my my current study field, but i can't get how the mind can influence anything beyond.
    The energy in our body is obtained from the food we eat and is used for metabolism (read it as ultimate survival of the individual life) and other that the energy came from the nature (food) how can u explain it being used to influence the beyond limits world. Using mindpower to control stuff like this is beyond the bounds of science.
    And if u'r aware about the LHC (AWOL for 2 months :lol:), do u think the force it generates during experiments can have a adverse effect to the normal natural forces which drive the world.

    BTW that workshop seems to be interesting
     

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    u'll not find me shouting GLORIA AETERNA LUCIFER :lol: but satanism can be taken in a different taste too . . .imo satanism is just another alternative to the bible, the words in the bible follow a certain path, and the satanic bible follow the opposite. What i see there is a parody of the bible. When Anton LaVey wrote that book he intended to show the emptyness of then church practices, it was his personal experiences with the church behavior whic made him go alternative.
    Satanism calls for materialism while most religions focus on spiritual gain. If u read the satanist bible u'll see u can just take it as a parody, a light read. If anyone is gonna attempt those sacrifice rituals there need to be serious checks about the mentality. There should be limits and within those limits satanism exisiting is not a problem. I may earn many flames if i drag buddhism into this but i'm ready for anything, in buddhism we do certain rituals such as boodhi pooja, katine and blah blah. . .i don't feel anything spiritual in it. The true spirit lies in the teaching and u don't need to go to the temple everyday and recite gaatha as long as u'r true and follow the path. (that's where i see the limit should be enforced on religion(belief) and ritual douches)
     
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    coolioWiZ said:
    involving the mind here is far fetched IMO, coz i can't get the fact how the mind which is the "organ" to control our own self can be an organ to influence anything beyond our body limits. I might be thinking too scientifically or maybe it's the limit enforced my my current study field, but i can't get how the mind can influence anything beyond.
    The energy in our body is obtained from the food we eat and is used for metabolism (read it as ultimate survival of the individual life) and other that the energy came from the nature (food) how can u explain it being used to influence the beyond limits world. Using mindpower to control stuff like this is beyond the bounds of science.

    Metabolism and Mana (or Prana) are two different things. Metabolism is a factor of our body. But what gives the life to this body is not only the metabolism. There is an electricity ion our nerves. There is a difference between a dead body and a living being. When there is no absolute reason for a person to live, his life ends.

    And yes, it is beyond science. Ron Hubbard have said to be experimented on this area of subject. He was one of the first few students of Quantum physics. But I'm not interested on Scientology. That means I don't seek scientific reasoning for occult phenomina. I am experimenting and experiencing the Occult beyond the scientific approach. ;)
     
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    coolioWiZ said:
    u'll not find me shouting GLORIA AETERNA LUCIFER :lol:
    Luciferianism and Satanism are two different things. I have a couple of friends who are Luciferians who would get pi**ed off if you speak thinking Luciferianism and Satanism are same :lol: :lol:

    The word "Witch" is used in Satanism as a rank for the Second Degree Female Member; and the word "Warlock" is the rank for the Second Degree Male Member. But Satanism has nothing to do with Witchcraft. Besides in Wicca and Witchcraft both Male and Female members are called "Witch". Never use the word "Warlock" for a Male Witch or they would get offended.
     

    coolioWiZ

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    vasana.pathirana said:
    Luciferianism and Satanism are two different things. I have a couple of friends who are Luciferians who would get pi**ed off if you speak thinking Luciferianism and Satanism are same :lol: :lol:

    i was basing it on the fact that lucifer is identified as satan in some context. never heard of luciferianism before, hmm if lucifer is satan doesn't the beliefs of luciferians go close with satanism
     

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    vasana.pathirana said:
    Metabolism and Mana (or Prana) are two different things. Metabolism is a factor of our body. But what gives the life to this body is not only the metabolism. There is an electricity ion our nerves. There is a difference between a dead body and a living being. When there is no absolute reason for a person to live, his life ends.

    And yes, it is beyond science. Ron Hubbard have said to be experimented on this area of subject. He was one of the first few students of Quantum physics. But I'm not interested on Scientology. That means I don't seek scientific reasoning for occult phenomina. I am experimenting and experiencing the Occult beyond the scientific approach. ;)

    I think u want to point out that things that's explainable with science is very few and the concepts of "magic" is something beyond it.

    BTW that electricity thing in our nerves can be explained by science ... in physiology we call it membrane potential and the passing of current as action potential. (can explain how it works, but i might bore u off)

    about scientology . . it's a pure invented religion by Ron Hubbard . . .and currently it's being ridiculed online and offline for it's beliefs in thetans and the money draining practices of the church of scientology.
     
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    coolioWiZ said:
    i was basing it on the fact that lucifer is identified as satan in some context. never heard of luciferianism before, hmm if lucifer is satan doesn't the beliefs of luciferians go close with satanism
    This "Lucifer" name seems to be used for more than one person.

    The name Lucifer also comes in Dianic Wicca. Diana made Lucifer out of her light half. So Lucifer fled away with Diana's light. Lucifer means the Light Bearer. Lucifer is the other half of the Goddess Diana. Diana had a daughter for Lucifer. Their daughter was Aradia, the Queen of the Withes.

    In Christianity, Lucifer is also an angel. He may be associated with Satan, but not Satan. I also want to believe that Dianic Lucifer and Christian/Satanic Lucifer are two different entities with the same name.

    One could make a conspiracy theory out of it...

    I'm not interested on Satanism or Luciferianism at all!
     

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    vasana.pathirana said:
    On what...?
    Hey, I started this thread to get to know with people of my kind... :)

    Sorry 4 screwing ur thred
    That's only ma openion and im nly 1 mem of ek no:D