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SAITM අදාලම නැත
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Courts do not make laws! what they do is interpret the law and they are given that power by the fucking constitution! nobody cares whether you or GMOA like those decisions so try to appeal to supreme court if not successful shut up and obey the law.
Courts did not disable anyone they said according to current law SLMC has no legal premises to deny SAITM registrations.
Stop spreading misinformation no anyone can't just start giving MBBS certificates. they first have to get necessary permissions from ministry of education and UGC which is the authority responsible for regulation higher education in sri lanka. please don't talk about things that you have no idea.
First Gov should introduce a standard for all not just for private led institutions. Just because Gov it does not mean they are above the law. I bet most are below SAITH quality in terms of the quality and level of English.. etc..
Secondly this called scaremongering, basically scared of loosing monopoly they held taking poor’s for a ride
Thirdly tertiary education is not right and only elementary and secondly until 12 is a right. I do not want my tax money for these protesting students and we should have referendum about tax money spent on universities spending on these morons as the first step toward education liberalisation.
It’s right of every student to get a decent education if Gov can not provide it and no country has been able to provide it without private sector support. Remember private sector is you and I too... not aliens as stupid JVP point out
Secondly this called scaremongering, basically scared of loosing monopoly they held taking poor’s for a ride
Thirdly tertiary education is not right and only elementary and secondly until 12 is a right. I do not want my tax money for these protesting students and we should have referendum about tax money spent on universities spending on these morons as the first step toward education liberalisation.
It’s right of every student to get a decent education if Gov can not provide it and no country has been able to provide it without private sector support. Remember private sector is you and I too... not aliens as stupid JVP point out
It's been fucked up from the very beginning. SLMC has ho legal premises!!
. It's correct according to the current law. What the court did was just point it out!. Those judges disregarded the country's future and just gave the decision in favor of the parties that the case involved. According to you , you are accepting that the decision of the court. So SLMC has no authority on SAITM or any other medical faculty in country to decide whether they are up to standard or not. Then who are going to regulate those medical faculties? ministry? UGC?. according to the court it seems that the sole authority of the decision is up to the health minister..
whatever it's, it seems our country is deviating from the internationally recognized pathway on the regulation of these PMCs. I think the GMOA will bring up this issue to the international level because we are not the only people will affect by this.
It's true that this loophole in the constitution should be closed before going to a court case again.
This is not over yet. People who are getting mbbs from foreign universities has to pass the Act16 exam before they get the SLMC provincial registration. So they are going to file a case against SLMC to challenge SLMC authority on those foreign universities too..
It seem logical that why do foreign mbbs students need Act 16? According to the this law they can just start internship in here without an Act 16
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Government should introduce regulations to mantain the quality of the universities. It should not only for private universities but also for all the univesities in the country.
But think gov. Universities never challenged the SLMC s authority on them. Not only the universities but also entire health sector including the doctors, nurses, MLT and the whole systems did regulated by the SLMC. If there are any medical related issues on doctors, nurses, hospitals were brought on to the SLMC at court and their decision was the final one. SLMC held the power to register or cancel the registration of doctors, nurses, ect..
Yes There is a monopoly of gvt. Doctors. We can agree on that. Yes it should be broken. But not in this way. Accepting the SAITM is not the way to revenge from doctors. If we want to revenge from docs then we have to make new legistlations. SAITM is not the anwswer to break the GMOA. Otherwise people with vicious intents will take advantAge on this oppotunity.
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වෛද්ය පීඨ ප්රධානීන්ගෙන් සයිටම් අර්බුදයට යෝජනා
මාලබේ සයිටම් පෞද්ගලික වෛද්ය විද්යාල අර්බුදයට විසඳුම් යෝජනාවලියක් වෛද්ය පීඨ අටේ පීඨාධිපතිවරුන් විසින් රජයට ඉදිරිපත් කර තිබේ.
සයිටම් ආයතනයට සිසුන් බඳවා ගැනීම තාවකාලිකව නතර කිරීම, දැනට සිටින සිසුන්ට සායනික පුහුණුවකින් පසු ලියාපදිංචිය ලබා දීම, වෛද්ය පීඨවල නිර්නායක නීතිගත කිරීම එම යෝජනාවල ඇතුළත් වේ.
http://www.lankadeepa.lk/index.php/top_story/506210
මාලබේ සයිටම් පෞද්ගලික වෛද්ය විද්යාල අර්බුදයට විසඳුම් යෝජනාවලියක් වෛද්ය පීඨ අටේ පීඨාධිපතිවරුන් විසින් රජයට ඉදිරිපත් කර තිබේ.
සයිටම් ආයතනයට සිසුන් බඳවා ගැනීම තාවකාලිකව නතර කිරීම, දැනට සිටින සිසුන්ට සායනික පුහුණුවකින් පසු ලියාපදිංචිය ලබා දීම, වෛද්ය පීඨවල නිර්නායක නීතිගත කිරීම එම යෝජනාවල ඇතුළත් වේ.
http://www.lankadeepa.lk/index.php/top_story/506210
අද හෙටම පව් බන් උඹ
කහින බහුතරයක් ලක්ෂ 120ක් ඇහැටවත් දැකලා නතූව ඇති.
කෝ වැහුවේ නෑනේ
It's been fucked up from the very beginning. SLMC has ho legal premises!!
According to you , you are accepting that the decision of the court. So SLMC has no authority on SAITM or any other medical faculty in country to decide whether they are up to standard or not. Then who are going to regulate those medical faculties? ministry? UGC?. according to the court it seems that the sole authority of the decision is up to the health minister..
whatever it's, it seems our country is deviating from the internationally recognized pathway on the regulation of these PMCs. I think the GMOA will bring up this issue to the international level because we are not the only people will affect by this.
It's true that this loophole in the constitution should be closed before going to a court case again.
This is not over yet. People who are getting mbbs from foreign universities has to pass the Act16 exam before they get the SLMC provincial registration. So they are going to file a case against SLMC to challenge SLMC authority on those foreign universities too..
It seem logical that why do foreign mbbs students need Act 16? According to the this law they can just start internship in here without an Act 16
First of all accept that you lied when you said anyone can give a mbbs now. second no foreign mbbs holders can't say that because those universities aren't started under permission of our ministry of education and UGC. please stop lying.
lol are you high? you acknowledge that what court did was pointing out according to the current law slmc has no legal premises to deny saitm registrations and still you blame judges for "disregarding future"? Do you understand that courts systems constitutional duty is to interpret law?
Courts did their job. Their job is interpreting current law, pandering to gmoa or your feelings is non of their concerns. If you think courts should disregard law and rule against saitm because gmoa and you think it's better, then you are mentally retarded beyond recovery.
ok.. here is what I want to say. we are now getting this thing beyond our primary topic. What I am saying is this court decision entirely wrong and it was done according to their internal agenda. What you are saying is correct but only with facts.
If this judges wanted to give such a big decision they should allow GMOA to participate in this case. The court rejected the GMOA's reguest. It was a planned one. If the court did have a good intention then they should call for all the affected parties and the parties that will affect. you can say that judges acted according to the order of constitution. But If judges needed they could have found a pathway around it.
Whatever it is now they gave a decision. Don't try to say that the judges are innocent. I am not saying that the GMOA is right. GMOA have some sort of bad habit on intervening everything they can see. I am not saying that the everything done by the GMOA is correct but in this situation they should act. someone should act.
this is the most idiotic court judgement ever.. It doesn't matter that whether the judges acted according to constitution or not. They have made a decision that will affect badly on country's health sector.
You have no proof that court did have an internal agenda plus you agreed what they did was correct according to the law so no. Yes i'm factually correct thanks for admitting and only facts matter not anecdotes.
No. This is matter between SLMC and SAITM. GMOA is just a trade union nothing more. Since when courts let trade unions to interfere with courts proceedings? GMOA might think they have special privileges but in reality no they don't.
Courts do not want to prove their innocence to GMOA or you
it's other way around. As you agreed they did their constitutional duty as it should be. no they did not pander to GMOA as you want but that's how it should be. it's just your opinion. nobody cares. get a life.
You are stupid beyond recovery mate. did you just say acting according to the highest law of the country don't matter? Courts sole responsibility is to act according to the law and they did it.
You have no proof that court did have an internal agenda plus you agreed what they did was correct according to the law so no. Yes i'm factually correct thanks for admitting and only facts matter not anecdotes.
No. This is matter between SLMC and SAITM. GMOA is just a trade union nothing more. Since when courts let trade unions to interfere with courts proceedings? GMOA might think they have special privileges but in reality no they don't.
Courts do not want to prove their innocence to GMOA or you
it's just your opinion. nobody cares. get a life.
You are stupid beyond recovery mate. did you just say acting according to the highest law of the country don't matter? Courts sole responsibility is to act according to the law and they did it.
OK. According to you court is right and it seems like the constitution is the ultimate power on everything. Remember that the constitution is also made by humans. It need constant optimizations with time to adapt on people's demands. That is why there is a parliament to make those changes on the constitution. But instead of closing those loopholes of this old constitution what they did was that they took advantage of those points and used it on their private benefits. That is how SAITM won the case.
First of all new Act should be introduced to empower the SLMC and then SAITM should be kept under regulation. if they are withing the regulated rules then they can ask for provincial registration or whatever they want
Constitution is the ultimate law if you don't like it can't help.
All the above mentioned rants are none of the courts concerns. Do you understand that courts can't change the law? their sole duty is to work according to the current law. Who took the advantage instead of closing loopholes?
Do you understand that courts did not do anything wrong? or still delusional?
ok that's a proposal from you so go to a representative that you like and try to get that proposal to the parliament. if majority agrees then that will become the law and courts will act accordingly. if not stop whining and accept the reality. that's democracy for you.
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වෛද්ය උපාධිය සම්බන්ධ ලොකුම මිථ්යා මතය තමයි වෛද්ය උපාධියක් කරන්න A3 දාල, Z අගය 1.9-2.0ක් වත් තියෙන්න ඕන කියන එක.
නෑ! සම්පූර්ණයෙන්ම වැරැදියි! ලංකාවෙ උසස් පෙළ සමත් වෙලා S3 ලැබීම තමයි වෛද්ය අධ්යාපනය ලැබීමේ එකම සහ අවම සුදුසුකම. බොරුනම් UGC අත්පොත බලන්න.
එතකොට Z අගය?
ඒක තියෙන්නෙ මෙඩිකල් කරන්න සුදුසුකම් ලබන සියලු දෙනාටම උගන්නන්න ආණ්ඩුවට සල්ලි නැති නිසා, වැඩිම ලකුණු ලබන සුළු ප්රතිශතයකට නොමිලේ දෙන ශිෂ්යත්ව ගාණ තීරණය කරන්න. කොටින්ම කියනවනම් රජයේ මෙඩිකල් ෆැකල්ටි යන සියලුම දෙනා, දක්ෂතා පදනම මත ශිෂ්යත්ව දිනාගත්ත අය. මිසක් ඇතුළෙ ඉන්නෙ සුදුස්සො, එළියෙ ඉන්නෙ නුසුදුස්සො කියල කතාවක් නෑ.
මෙඩිකල් කරන්න A3 ඕනෙ, Z එක 2.0+ වෙන්න ඕන කියල කවුරුහරි කිව්වොත් අන්න ඒ කෙනාට මේක කොපි පේස්ට් කරලම පෙන්නන්න.
නෑ! සම්පූර්ණයෙන්ම වැරැදියි! ලංකාවෙ උසස් පෙළ සමත් වෙලා S3 ලැබීම තමයි වෛද්ය අධ්යාපනය ලැබීමේ එකම සහ අවම සුදුසුකම. බොරුනම් UGC අත්පොත බලන්න.
එතකොට Z අගය?
ඒක තියෙන්නෙ මෙඩිකල් කරන්න සුදුසුකම් ලබන සියලු දෙනාටම උගන්නන්න ආණ්ඩුවට සල්ලි නැති නිසා, වැඩිම ලකුණු ලබන සුළු ප්රතිශතයකට නොමිලේ දෙන ශිෂ්යත්ව ගාණ තීරණය කරන්න. කොටින්ම කියනවනම් රජයේ මෙඩිකල් ෆැකල්ටි යන සියලුම දෙනා, දක්ෂතා පදනම මත ශිෂ්යත්ව දිනාගත්ත අය. මිසක් ඇතුළෙ ඉන්නෙ සුදුස්සො, එළියෙ ඉන්නෙ නුසුදුස්සො කියල කතාවක් නෑ.
මෙඩිකල් කරන්න A3 ඕනෙ, Z එක 2.0+ වෙන්න ඕන කියල කවුරුහරි කිව්වොත් අන්න ඒ කෙනාට මේක කොපි පේස්ට් කරලම පෙන්නන්න.
Court didn't do anything wrong I can agree for that, but also they didn't do the right thing too. The judges didn't take the responsibility and instead they gave that responsibility to the fucking years old constitution. It was done deliberately.
If we are doing a government job we can do it in two ways. One way is just doing the job by avoiding the legal issues, or trying to do it as it stated at constitution. In this way that person do not do a service he just doing his job to get his monthly wage.
Other way is the person who do the government job can do his job as a service to the public. By this way he may need to work against the constitution and he may take some additional unwanted risk. But he is the one who are truly giving the service to the public. He is working beyond the salary he gets.
So we both can agree that to what catagory those judges are belongs to. They just did their job but not as a service..
GMOA is doing the arrangements to bring an act on changing the constitution in order to Give SLMC to some authority on medical facalties in country.
Dude you are mentally retarded.
Prime responsibility of a judge of any kind is work according to the law and facts while keeping the emotions away. You are upset because in this case courts did not bent the law to get your desired out come.
Their is only one right way. that is work according to the current law. second method you are suggesting is plain wrong and criminal. law is their for a reason. you don't like law? can't help find a another country.
You don't like SAITM and you think their graduates should not get registration. that's your personal opinion. nobody cares.
you are upset because courts followed the law instead of your personal opinion. dude get a life.
You are so ignorant dude. changing constitution is done by amendments. acts can't change the constitution.
all that aside how the hell GMOA can bring an act to the parliament? when did they stared working on law making process? i thought MP's are their for that job.anyway until such act is passed by the majority of the parliament and becomes the law (which i highly doubt) what courts did was 100% correct.
Dude you are mentally retarded.
Prime responsibility of a judge of any kind is work according to the law and facts while keeping the emotions away. You are upset because in this case courts did not bent the law to get your desired out come.
Their is only one right way. that is work according to the current law. second method you are suggesting is plain wrong and criminal. law is their for a reason. you don't like law? can't help find a another country.
You don't like SAITM and you think their graduates should not get registration. that's your personal opinion. nobody cares.
you are upset because courts followed the law instead of your personal opinion. dude get a life.
You are so ignorant dude. changing constitution is done by amendments. acts can't change the constitution.
anyway until such act is passed by the majority of the parliament and becomes the law (which i highly doubt) what courts did was 100% correct.
According to your statement I m not the only one who upset due to this decision. Most of the doctor as well as 99% of university students and some sane people of this country are upset too. In other hand you and some of the shortsighted idiots along with those money hungry ministers and some of the wealthy people of the country are happy with it. All can see that your side consist of more and more bastards and not the people who truely love the country.
We are not saying that SAITM should be closed. Bu it should be regulated and should rise it's quality.
Those SAITM students should complete their education too. but they need to rank against the gvt students before they enter the hospitals to do their internship. If they can sit on final mbbs then they can mix with gvt students to obtain a higher rank. If they are willing to do Act 16 then they will rank after the gvt students and will mixed with foreign student.
If they don't do any exam, where would they rank? After all gvt and foreign students?
GMOA is not making an Act. They are discussing with the relavant ministers about the issue. What are you really thinking?
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According to your statement I m not the only one who upset due to this decision. Most of the doctor as well as 99% of university students and some sane people of this country are upset too. In other hand you and some of the shortsighted idiots along with those money hungry ministers and some of the wealthy people of the country are happy with it. All can see that your side consist of more and more bastards and not the people who truely love the country.
We are not saying that SAITM should be closed. Bu it should be regulated and should rise it's quality.
Those SAITM students should complete their education too. but they need to rank against the gvt students before they enter the hospitals to do their internship. If they can sit on final mbbs then they can mix with gvt students to obtain a higher rank. If they are willing to do Act 16 then they will rank after the gvt students and will mixed with foreign student.
If they don't do any exam, where would they rank? After all gvt and foreign students?
GMOA is not making an Act. They are discussing with the relavant ministers about the issue. What are you really thinking?
I agree with your opinion and statement, this is an advice from me bro, don't waste your valuable time to argue with these kind of people, they never understand what 's going on there and what is the reality of this and what will happen in the future,
But i have sure bro high percentage of sri lankan people know real situation about this incident
