IESL for Software Engineers

[Arcadian]

That's why I call it the Wackypedia....

you got a better reference?

PS: Refer to the word Engineer in Wikipedia first...

I did, and it has Software Engineering under engineering branches, which redirects to the above definition.

 

[imhotep]

you got a better reference?

I did, and it has Software Engineering under engineering branches, which redirects to the above definition.

Check the meaning for Wacky in the dictionary....

This is what Wikipedia lists...

Engineers, as practitioners of engineering, are professionals who invent, design, analyze, build and test machines, complex systems, structures, gadgets and materials to fulfill functional objectives and requirements while considering the limitations imposed by practicality, regulation, safety and cost.[1][2] The word engineer (Latin ingeniator[3]) is derived from the Latin words ingeniare ("to create, generate, contrive, devise") and ingenium ("cleverness").[4][5] The foundational qualifications of an engineer typically include a four-year bachelor's degree in an engineering discipline, or in some jurisdictions, a master's degree in an engineering discipline plus four to six years of peer-reviewed professional practice (culminating in a project report or thesis) and passage of engineering board examinations.

The work of engineers forms the link between scientific discoveries and their subsequent applications to human and business needs and quality of life.[1]

 

[Arcadian]

The work of engineers forms the link between scientific discoveries and their subsequent applications to human and business needs and quality of life.[1]

The work of Software Engineers does not?

And as I mentioned, Software Engineering is listed under the Engineering branches. So we can say that is a fact.

 

[imhotep]

The work of Software Engineers does not?

And as I mentioned, Software Engineering is listed under the Engineering branches. So we can say that is a fact.

Nobody argues that software engineering doesn't exist. It's got to meet up to certain educational standards. That's all. Not every programmer, software developer or a software architect can be considered as a SE.
Professional qualifications are not assessed by what's listed in Wackypedia.

 

[Pitihum]

bmp

 

[gihann6]

All details in the IESL web. Briefly if you do have a four year degree from a recognized institution included in the Washington Accord list then you can.

This argument about Software Engineering is going on for the last couple of decades in many countries. I am not going to start an argument all over again, but most of the guys who call them Software Engineers are not. They are programmers, software developers and on a level up are the software architects. Quite often persons with a MCSE call themselves SEs.
There are SEs, the real ones who builds things like in Avionics, Missles & Guidance systems. Instrumentation, Medical equipment etc. Engineers have to have a broader skill set. Programming is an implementation tool.
With half-baked degrees popping out everywhere it's hard to give recognition to everything just by looking at the title of the qualification.

So a guy works at google building frontend frameworks like Angular.... ok they are not Software Engineers
I am also a Software Engineer in a reputed company in Sri Lanka. So I guess I have the right to answer for this. Yes I agree ,you need to have an Engineering degree to get an IESL membership, but your knowledge on 'Software Engineer' definition is very narrow

 

[imhotep]

So a guy works at google building frontend frameworks like Angular.... ok they are not Software Engineers
I am also a Software Engineer in a reputed company in Sri Lanka. So I guess I have the right to answer for this. Yes I agree ,you need to have an Engineering degree to get an IESL membership, but your knowledge on 'Software Engineer' definition is very narrow

You can call yourself with any fancy title....But the recognition from a professional body is different.

 

[Arcadian]

Nobody argues that software engineering doesn't exist. It's got to meet up to certain educational standards. That's all. Not every programmer, software developer or a software architect can be considered as a SE.
Professional qualifications are not assessed by what's listed in Wackypedia.

So what's your point? The definition of 'Engineer' is accurate, and when it comes to 'Software Engineer', its Wackeypedia? Isn't that double standard?

I agree on every programmer can't be considered a SE. But there is a majority who carries out all the processes from analyzing the specification to documentation, and it takes a great deal of analytical skill. Don't you think what you are trying to generalize is unfair for them?

 

[hancok]

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washington accord nadda eke

 

[raman2]

IESL consist of SL university graduates so they want to create a micro elite club.. same as gmoa's hate on the construction of any private medi unis

the underline problem is IT professionals in SL have no association or at least a club to standout from others.. ex.. BCS in UK
if they have such association then easily can apply for loans and all those facilities which IESL enjoy..
normal software professional makes lot more money than a typical IESL member. just need a proper association to get the privileges.

 

[S.GUNE]

දැනට iesl දෙන්න රජයේ ප්‍රධාන campus තුනේ (මොරා,පේරා,රැහුණ) ඉංජිෙන්රු උපාධියක් හරි ousl Btech හරි තියෙන්න ඕනේ. ඉංජිනේරු කවුන්සිලය බලන්න. ඒත් computer science bsc එකට දෙනවා ද දන්නේ නැහැ.

 

[CoolMan88]

Waiting for @BruceWayne92 to come

 

[hancok]

IESL consist of SL university graduates so they want to create a micro elite club.. same as gmoa's hate on the construction of any private medi unis

the underline problem is IT professionals in SL have no association or at least a club to standout from others.. ex.. BCS in UK
if they have such association then easily can apply for loans and all those facilities which IESL enjoy..
normal software professional makes lot more money than a typical IESL member. just need a proper association to get the privileges.

so washington accord is a madeup getaway lie made up by IESL to enjoy eliteness ?

 

[Nisala88]

You can try CSSL

 

[gurulugomi]

Even in Canada, 'Engineer' is a protected term. Similar to doctors, a professional body of engineers decides who can use the term and in what situations. Also, this professional body decides who can be members of their organization. Similar to that, IESL can decide who can be the members of their organization.

In the province of Ontario in Canada according to their Professional Engineers Act, there can be fines in the $10k-$50k range per instance representing yourself as a licensed engineer (PEng) when you're not.

https://www.ontario.ca/laws/statute/90p28

They have similar strict guidelines if you want to join The Canadian Council of Professional Engineers (CCPE).

Here's an example where even Microsoft had to give up the term engineer in their professional certifications in Canada because they went against the guidelines of CCPE:
https://www.canadianconsultingengin...s-up-the-title-engineer-in-canada/1000000701/

I guess this is similar in other countries (UK, Australia, Germany) as well.

According to the International Engineering Alliance (IEA), International Professional Engineering Agreement (IPEA) and Washington Accord (WA), IESL is the official body representing professional engineers in Sri Lanka. (So IESL can decide who can be members and who can get charted status.)

 

[avjayarathne]

machan IESL ganna puluwanda mata