What is Buddhism ?

kosandpol

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    Sunanda820 said:
    Kastiyama mè tread eka balando0...
    http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=199960&page=1
    mental atula (muslim) mèkedit buddhism ekata abuse karanda gihin paraduna.
    Dan mè alut tread ekak hadala apahu buddhism ekata abuse karanda.
    stop your nonsense in this thread. This is the PRO section. Not the talk section where you can post your drivel.
    If you post any more crap here, I'll report you to the admins.
     

    shan4max

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    its neither. Its a philosophy that explains the existence of life.

    But I think to be a budhist we should beleive some things that we can not prove. It is kind of religious characteristic ri8 ??

    Things are Reincarnation ("punaruthpaththiya" harida manda?) and Nivana. On other hand Buddha had only talk about the sadness. We have happy times as well.

    Macho i wanna get a clear idea. pls explain me dude
     

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    But I think to be a budhist we should beleive some things that we can not prove. It is kind of religious characteristic ri8 ??

    Things are Reincarnation ("punaruthpaththiya" harida manda?) and Nivana. On other hand Buddha had only talk about the sadness. We have happy times as well.

    Macho i wanna get a clear idea. pls explain me dude

    Proof as in things you see, touch ...etc can't always be taken as actual ways of proving something but..if you look at some cases there is enough evidence to take reincarnation seriously a normal "scientific" proof may be available or not but there is evidence and it cannot be treated as "mythical" same goes to nirvana, but proof of it existence is not easy. Because nivana means "non existance" -- not going to heaven!
     

    kosandpol

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    But I think to be a budhist we should beleive some things that we can not prove. It is kind of religious characteristic ri8 ??
    wrong. Nothing in Buddhism is based on pure faith. Everything is practical.

    Things are Reincarnation ("punaruthpaththiya" harida manda?) and Nivana.
    All of these are explain well in the doctrine.

    On other hand Buddha had only talk about the sadness. We have happy times as well.
    this is a wrong assumption. The sadness you refer to is not the sadness The Buddha is referring to.

    Macho i wanna get a clear idea. pls explain me dude
    IF you really wanna get a clear idea on the core of Buddhism, read this thread from page 1.
     

    twisted

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    when i think about it, most things in buddhism come to one quite naturally by instincts any human possess. from the first day forth we learn how our desirous human nature consequently leads us to agony or happiness...thru that happiness we learn that what suffices for one desire which caused such happiness does not surve for all eternity..happiness is a form of sorrow...happiness that consequents laughs and longing for life always reflects, in more subtle a way, the unforeseen agony. happiness that drapes our sight from insights of life keeps our minds less applicable to the core of living as opposed to the sorrow that shows us depths we can fall in....when one is in such a depth, one knows the quintessence of living...one who is sad enough not to praise the good nor to blame the evil lives life in its primitive essence. that sadness gets over with..leaves us in the middle way, inclined to embrace those depths or reach out to sunshine....the numb state of mind one reaches when there have been enough of pain and gladness is the middle way? how can we travel on without succumbing to inclinations?

    life is amaznigly annoying....we are born with senses that crave satisfaction..we have a sense to taste..but we should not...we have a taste to see..but we should not..we have a taste to feel ..but we should not..i know not how we came to existence, but we are born then all rules are set in opposite..and we are asked to get along with them..isn't that the ultimate joke of all time.

    is buddhism the path to end of all this ironical masquerade ..why have we been given such tools of sensation if we are to keep ourself from using them...
     

    sri_lion

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    life is amaznigly annoying....we are born with senses that crave satisfaction..we have a sense to taste..but we should not...we have a taste to see..but we should not..we have a taste to feel ..but we should not..i know not how we came to existence, but we are born then all rules are set in opposite..and we are asked to get along with them..isn't that the ultimate joke of all time.

    is buddhism the path to end of all this ironical masquerade ..why have we been given such tools of sensation if we are to keep ourself from using them...

    You are generalizing it a bit too much, there's nothing stopping you from entertaining your senses, issue here is not to get lost in them and succumb to them, the key word is middle path, we see it from our perspective because we always seek the better, richer, luxurious life... from that perspective even middle path seem so far!

    No matter how you would like to put it, the physical aspect of us will always remains a burden, no matter how much you entertain your senses the senses will not last forever, Buddhism starts from there... so how long you would want to go through the same cycle?

    If you think "it doesn't matter, let it take as long as it takes"... then you don't have to worry about Buddhism!
     
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    when i think about it, most things in buddhism come to one quite naturally by instincts any human possess. from the first day forth we learn how our desirous human nature consequently leads us to agony or happiness...thru that happiness we learn that what suffices for one desire which caused such happiness does not surve for all eternity..happiness is a form of sorrow...happiness that consequents laughs and longing for life always reflects, in more subtle a way, the unforeseen agony. happiness that drapes our sight from insights of life keeps our minds less applicable to the core of living as opposed to the sorrow that shows us depths we can fall in....when one is in such a depth, one knows the quintessence of living...one who is sad enough not to praise the good nor to blame the evil lives life in its primitive essence. that sadness gets over with..leaves us in the middle way, inclined to embrace those depths or reach out to sunshine....the numb state of mind one reaches when there have been enough of pain and gladness is the middle way? how can we travel on without succumbing to inclinations?

    life is amaznigly annoying....we are born with senses that crave satisfaction..we have a sense to taste..but we should not...we have a taste to see..but we should not..we have a taste to feel ..but we should not..i know not how we came to existence, but we are born then all rules are set in opposite..and we are asked to get along with them..isn't that the ultimate joke of all time.

    is buddhism the path to end of all this ironical masquerade ..why have we been given such tools of sensation if we are to keep ourself from using them...

    We are not prohibited to enjoy things as long as we are not attached to the sensations they create...
    What ever we get attached.. that is for the sensations they create... Food, Women, Alcohol... movies.. anything.... we are not after them in reality...
    We are after the sensations they create.
    Sensation - tanha - attachment.
    Pleasent Sensation - tanha - craving ....(Craving)
    Unpleasent Sensation - tanha - aversion..(Dwesha)
    if we can have upeksha toward the pleasentness or unpleasentness of a sensation
    Sensation - Upeksha......
    the chain is broken.

    The way to do that is Vipassana...
    Practice it for ten days... and world won't be the same again
    www.dhamma.org
    Best of luck.
     

    twisted

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    You are generalizing it a bit too much, there's nothing stopping you from entertaining your senses, issue here is not to get lost in them and succumb to them, the key word is middle path, we see it from our perspective because we always seek the better, richer, luxurious life... from that perspective even middle path seem so far!

    No matter how you would like to put it, the physical aspect of us will always remains a burden, no matter how much you entertain your senses the senses will not last forever, Buddhism starts from there... so how long you would want to go through the same cycle?

    If you think "it doesn't matter, let it take as long as it takes"... then you don't have to worry about Buddhism!

    hmm lets say we don't seek better...richer and luxurious a life is highly dependent. what one finds in rich as in money or wealth another might find in something else, something, lets say, less richer or luxurious. still the idea does not differ. i think the trick is not to keep from seeking for better but keep ourselves from seeking anything don't you think.

    my question was, if we are not to get attached to sensations that those given senses produce upon us, why have we been given them?..are we to go against that physical sensualities we are born capable of?
     

    twisted

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    We are not prohibited to enjoy things as long as we are not attached to the sensations they create...
    What ever we get attached.. that is for the sensations they create... Food, Women, Alcohol... movies.. anything.... we are not after them in reality...
    We are after the sensations they create.
    Sensation - tanha - attachment.
    Pleasent Sensation - tanha - craving ....(Craving)
    Unpleasent Sensation - tanha - aversion..(Dwesha)
    if we can have upeksha toward the pleasentness or unpleasentness of a sensation
    Sensation - Upeksha......
    the chain is broken.

    The way to do that is Vipassana...
    Practice it for ten days... and world won't be the same again
    www.dhamma.org
    Best of luck.

    first of all good to have you back mate :P try not to get yourself banned again lol.

    that i understand... but i would like to know why we were created capable of sensing things and getting attached to them if we were not supposed to in the first place. or am i not to over analyze it?
     

    kosandpol

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    first of all good to have you back mate :P try not to get yourself banned again lol.

    that i understand... but i would like to know why we were created capable of sensing things and getting attached to them if we were not supposed to in the first place. or am i not to over analyze it?
    ok, now you're getting out of topic.
    Buddhism does not divulge in to the question of creation. It explains only why we exist and how to get out of existence.

    As to how we were created ? is there a purpose ?
    Big bang, Theory of evolution, $Deity created it, etc. Take your pick.