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zaymhd

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    Peradeniya,,,,Colombo,,,,Moratuwa ...danata Msc karanna puluwan BCS HEQ wali...balagena innoooooooo......thawa tika dawasakin mokada wenne kiyala..hama uni ekama BCS oneeeeeeee kiyanawa aniwa defaaaaaa

    oh thanks , M,sc karanda 300,000 withara yaida :):shocked:
     

    gunemalli

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    Bro I know that BCS is a professional Qualification. I want do job in lanka for two years and after that only I wanna do the M.Sc Some one told me tha BCS PGD in IT has less job oppuurtunities kiyala.. ekai, :( And In lanka as i know morotuwa uni withatrai, i think M.sc entry ekata BCS illanne... I am asking this things I dont know much stuff abt that ekai :)

    Machan mae kathawa hondatama waradii. Ada godakma professional qualification walati experience walati thama ida thiyenne. Paper adverts balanna, hama ekakakama waage illanawa ekko microsoft, cisco, java, oracle wage daewal. mae okkoma prfessional quali's. Man umbata honda example ekak dennam.

    If there were two guys applying for a networking post, one has done a BSc, MSc and spent good time on researching for is PhD and the other has no degrees but holds a CCNP/CCIE qualification he'll get the job.
     

    zaymhd

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    Machan mae kathawa hondatama waradii. Ada godakma professional qualification walati experience walati thama ida thiyenne. Paper adverts balanna, hama ekakakama waage illanawa ekko microsoft, cisco, java, oracle wage daewal. mae okkoma prfessional quali's. Man umbata honda example ekak dennam.

    If there were two guys applying for a networking post, one has done a BSc, MSc and spent good time on researching for is PhD and the other has no degrees but holds a CCNP/CCIE qualification he'll get the job.


    Matcha uba bcs da kare... BCS mona modules da kare?.... because, i am going to use diploma level this time... matcha BCS eke hardware da hoda nettan software side da beacause, me term eke ne mata select karanda wenne...dekama mata shape..
     

    gunemalli

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    Matcha uba bcs da kare... BCS mona modules da kare?.... because, i am going to use diploma level this time... matcha BCS eke hardware da hoda nettan software side da beacause, me term eke ne mata select karanda wenne...dekama mata shape..

    Mama BCS kare machan. Mage field eka networking, so aekata relate wena subjects thama kare.

    Diloma walata kare Core, OOP, Internet Technology, DBMS. Netwroking kare naththe teach karanna hitapu pora hari nae.

    PGD walata kare MIS, NIS, Web Engineering and RUI.

    Subjects thoraganna ooni umbata yanna ooni field eka anuwa. mama networking and web development side eka target karala thama mae subjects thoragaththe.
     

    zaymhd

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    Mama BCS kare machan. Mage field eka networking, so aekata relate wena subjects thama kare.

    Diloma walata kare Core, OOP, Internet Technology, DBMS. Netwroking kare naththe teach karanna hitapu pora hari nae.

    PGD walata kare MIS, NIS, Web Engineering and RUI.

    Subjects thoraganna ooni umbata yanna ooni field eka anuwa. mama networking and web development side eka target karala thama mae subjects thoragaththe.


    Matcha matat networking tamaa yanda one but.. matcha CCNP/MCTS vage ewaa tiyana kota. BCS job market ekata?? man den Al karana gaman tamaa meka karagena yanne . ekai ?
     

    gunemalli

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    Matcha matat networking tamaa yanda one but.. matcha CCNP/MCTS vage ewaa tiyana kota. BCS job market ekata?? man den Al karana gaman tamaa meka karagena yanne . ekai ?

    Machan malli, mata umba ahana dae hariyatama clear nae. Anyways what ever additional qualifications you have will get you to a good place. but the issue is with training for MCTS/CCNA courses. It is costly and you have to pay for exams as well.

    Since you're doing a/l's i'd say go with BCS and finish it off. then you can start with the rest.
     

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    Mama BCS kare machan. Mage field eka networking, so aekata relate wena subjects thama kare.

    Diloma walata kare Core, OOP, Internet Technology, DBMS. Netwroking kare naththe teach karanna hitapu pora hari nae.

    PGD walata kare MIS, NIS, Web Engineering and RUI.

    Subjects thoraganna ooni umbata yanna ooni field eka anuwa. mama networking and web development side eka target karala thama mae subjects thoragaththe.

    Is MIS difficult? cz this time i also do. can we do without going classes.
    I have the study materials but this lectures are boring. so i was thinking about to do without going classes
     

    isuru143

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    No brother you're wrong. Employers have a great recognition towards BCS. If you say they don't know then they must be not in the IT trade.

    Yes it is a Professional qualification and not an Academic qualification. But you'll be surprised that professional qualification outweigh academic qualification and employers prefer people with professional qualification over academics.

    This is an email I got from the BCS Sri Lanka section:



    So if you want to do any masters program in IT in Sri Lanka, with BCS you can start one. Also you comment is totally wrong. who gave you this idea? All UK universities accept BCS as a Higher Education Qualification, and you can apply for any course with the right credentials.

    The real fact is that BCS is the governing body for IT courses in UK universities and all universities try to make their courses meet the BCS standards. After starting my MSc here in UK, i've heard all my lecturers tell this at one time or the other. So i don't see point you said above is true.

    And oh, it was the Sri Lankan Uni's that had a problem with BCS and not the UK Uni's.

    Well. I went to an interview in Sri Lanka as a PHP developer(internship) and they told they only take Bsc Holders. And for your information I contacted Norweigian(University of Stavanger), Germany and Australian University. But they told me I must hold Bsc degree to do Msc. It is true you can apply Sri Lankan Universities for Msc other than that it is hopeless. :(
     

    amila325

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    IT courses in UK universities and all universities try to make their courses meet the BCS standards

    This is not entirely true...
    Cuz the degree which I'm following, once I finish my degree BCS offer us to take the BCS membership without any exams or anything :S :S.... So what I'm saying is there are some degrees which are recognized higher than BCS :) :)

    BCS is also a good degree equivalent program. but when you do a four year full time degree it will be the best for your future(if you have time and money) :) :)....
    you can believe me or not, but you'll understand one day ;) ;) :D
     

    gunemalli

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    Is MIS difficult? cz this time i also do. can we do without going classes.
    I have the study materials but this lectures are boring. so i was thinking about to do without going classes

    MIS is not that difficult. But i would recommend going to classes cos this the final step you know and you're spending a lot for one exam, just go with it. And you will have to do some work on your own too.

    Well. I went to an interview in Sri Lanka as a PHP developer(internship) and they told they only take Bsc Holders. And for your information I contacted Norweigian(University of Stavanger), Germany and Australian University. But they told me I must hold Bsc degree to do Msc. It is true you can apply Sri Lankan Universities for Msc other than that it is hopeless. :(

    In your case there are some companies who still don't know about BCS. It is just their ignorance and poor advertising of BCS Sri Lanka section to improve the awareness of this qualification. On the latter part, it's true that anything outside UK it's hard to get the recognition but if you have actually made the application after you've done the exams it may have been a different case.

    This is not entirely true...
    Cuz the degree which I'm following, once I finish my degree BCS offer us to take the BCS membership without any exams or anything :S :S.... So what I'm saying is there are some degrees which are recognized higher than BCS :) :)

    BCS is also a good degree equivalent program. but when you do a four year full time degree it will be the best for your future(if you have time and money) :) :)....
    you can believe me or not, but you'll understand one day ;) ;) :D

    I agree with you on this for some extent but i feel that you've got a wrong idea as well. If you hold a relevant qualification ex. an IT degree then you can apply for AMBCS or MBCS possitions and you don't have to do exams. Since UK universities pay for this for the 1st couple of years you get it for free. But i'm not sure what positions you are being awarded.

    BCS accredits over 1,500 University courses in the UK. If you are unsure whether your degree is one of these please use our online accredited course search facility to check.
    To become a Professional Member (MBCS), you will typically have 5 or more years of IT work experience. Relevant qualifications, such as a computing-related degree, reduce this requirement to 2 or 3 years.
    BCS accredited degree with less than 2 years IT experience

    From the answers you have provided we think you may be eligible to apply for the grade Member (MBCS)

    However if your degree is not an honours degree you should apply for the grade Associate (AMBCS)
     

    gunemalli

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    BCS is also a good degree equivalent program. but when you do a four year full time degree it will be the best for your future(if you have time and money) :) :)....
    you can believe me or not, but you'll understand one day ;) ;) :D

    As i said earlier this depends on your career path and the type of professional qualification. If you're a CCIE holder then the world is yours. You could say it is equivalent to a MSc in networking or even to a PhD but it even outweighs the PhD.

    The advantage of a 4 year degree is that if you're going for a masters level outside of UK and several other countries they don't even accept a 3 year BSc degree as a degree.
     

    isuru143

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    This is not entirely true...
    Cuz the degree which I'm following, once I finish my degree BCS offer us to take the BCS membership without any exams or anything :S :S.... So what I'm saying is there are some degrees which are recognized higher than BCS :) :)

    BCS is also a good degree equivalent program. but when you do a four year full time degree it will be the best for your future(if you have time and money) :) :)....
    you can believe me or not, but you'll understand one day ;) ;) :D

    I agree with you. But most IT degrees in UK three years, at least 90%.
     

    gunemalli

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    thanks for the advice.
    but these subject are really boring.. and so much of explanations..

    No problem. The reason i told you to go for classes is that those explanations are the stuff that gets you through the exam. The reason is that until up-to diploma level exams, they ask questions directly and you can give answers directly.

    But inn PGD level, remember you have 3hrs to answer 3 questions. i.e 1hr per question. That is a lot of writing. And the questions are always scenario based and you have to bring up good arguments and examples to support your answers.

    That is why there's a lot of explanations and long classes. just work your way through. it's only for 6 months. then you're home free.
     

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    BCS PGD Vs.BSC In MIS

    machan gunemalli how do you compare BCS Professional Graduate Diploma with the BSc in Management Information Systems.since BCS only got the modules related to IT,but this BSc in MIS got many modules on management too.i know BCS cost less money and less time.what is your opinion on this?what should be the best?Does the completion of BCS PGD allow us to follow stuff like MBA's othe than IT MSC's in sri lanka or out of sri lanka?
     
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    Machan,

    everything depends on what area you want to go for. The thing i like about BCS is that you're able to customise it to your needs. Though BCS is been regarded as a general IT qualification with a focus on software development I managed to tweak it to be more aligned with networking and web. So it enabled me to easily go for a MSc. in Networking.

    That being said, if you really wanna focus on MIS then go for the BSc. in MIS course you've shown. The subjects below are covered by BCS and the rest are not.


    • Database and Information Resource Management
    • Project Management
    • Management of Information Systems
    • Management Support Systems
    • Information System Development and Implementation
    I'm not sure what's being covered from Information Systems Applications cos it doesn't give much details.

    These are not covered in BCS or have different names or covered as a part of a module. Best thing you can do get the full curriculum details and compare it against BCS.


    • Accounting
    • Business Policy
    • Marketing Management
    • Management of e-Commerce Strategy and Operations
    • Management of Organizations
    Rmember this, BCS is more towards a generic IT qualification which acts as a launchpad for you to progress in a career you choose. whereas the above course only focuses you in the MIS direction and you will have a limited field of entry.

    So i would advice you to think where you want to end up in 5 years time, what type of career you want and see if this course fits bill and would actually help you to go there.

    For you final question, yes yuou can follow MBA's after PGD, but remember, to do a MBA you need to have at least 3-5 years of experience in that particular field. There are already 3/4 MBA holders that i know of who gone from the BCS path but they have ~5years of experience in them.

    Hope this helps you.

    Regards,
    Gayan


    machan gunemalli how do you compare BCS Professional Graduate Diploma with the BSc in Management Information Systems.since BCS only got the modules related to IT,but this BSc in MIS got many modules on management too.i know BCS cost less money and less time.what is your opinion on this?what should be the best?Does the completion of BCS PGD allow us to follow stuff like MBA's othe than IT MSC's in sri lanka or out of sri lanka?
     
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    yehank

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    Machan,

    everything depends on what area you want to go for. The thing i like about BCS is that you're able to customise it to your needs. Though BCS is been regarded as a general IT qualification with a focus on software development I managed to tweak it to be more aligned with networking and web. So it enabled me to easily go for a MSc. in Networking.

    That being said, if you really wanna focus on MIS then go for the BSc. in MIS course you've shown. The subjects below are covered by BCS and the rest are not.


    • Database and Information Resource Management
    • Project Management
    • Management of Information Systems
    • Management Support Systems
    • Information System Development and Implementation
    I'm not sure what's being covered from Information Systems Applications cos it doesn't give much details.

    These are not covered in BCS or have different names or covered as a part of a module. Best thing you can do get the full curriculum details and compare it against BCS.


    • Accounting
    • Business Policy
    • Marketing Management
    • Management of e-Commerce Strategy and Operations
    • Management of Organizations
    Rmember this, BCS is more towards a generic IT qualification which acts as a launchpad for you to progress in a career you choose. whereas the above course only focuses you in the MIS direction and you will have a limited field of entry.

    So i would advice you to think where you want to end up in 5 years time, what type of career you want and see if this course fits bill and would actually help you to go there.

    For you final question, yes yuou can follow MBA's after PGD, but remember, to do a MBA you need to have at least 3-5 years of experience in that particular field. There are already 3/4 MBA holders that i know of who gone from the BCS path but they have ~5years of experience in them.

    Hope this helps you.

    Regards,
    Gayan

    THANK YOU Gayan.Your ideas did help a lot.thank you very much:)