Interesting interview by Ralipanawe Pannyasiri Himi about muslims...

[just]

You commit yourself.. then you get it.... just like every other things in Nature works! NO GOD gonna give you salvation... you work for yourself, if you do good deeds it will do good for you and vise-versa

hey buddy maybe im not intelligent as you are , but would be glad if you can clarify this to me with regard to above your statement itself.

NO GOD gonna give you salvation

ok fine.

.. you work for yourself, if you do good deeds it will do good for you and vise-versa

1st who decides wats good and wats bad..

2nd who exactly makes sure that ppl who did deed will get good and did bad will face its consequences..

is it just coincidences like science says abt everything? i'm confused, can you clear?

TC man

PS: it was mentioned that thread starter was the one to be blamed. i believe people will decide it when they read the interview. does it fuel anger and hatred or does it help common ppl understand the religion in its proper form

 

[sri_lion]

hey buddy maybe im not intelligent as you are , but would be glad if you can clarify this to me with regard to above your statement itself.

Sure!

As you may know by now NIRVANA is the Highest point of Buddhism as mentioned by Lord Buddha's teachings... and if we analyze it carefully it can be the highest point of HUMAN EVOLUTION as well! NIRAVANA can only be attained by a person whom have given up everything to live for.. yet he is compassionate, clear of all sins and the guidelines have given by Lord Buddha as what they refer to now as the "Eightfold Path"

1. Right View
2. Right Speech
3. Right Intention
4. Right livelihood
5. Right effort
6. Right action
7. Right mindfulness
8. Right concentration

NOW....

Lord Buddha also talks about cause and effect... as long as there is a cause there will be an effect..

Example: As long as you hate someone there will be enemies for you.. as long as there are enemies you will have bad intentions & fear and as long as you have bad intentions and fear you will be opted to do foul things... And if you do foul things there will be an effect... So there's cause and there is effect.. now if you ignore all hate then all the rest will no longer in effect there's no chain reaction...and then you look at the bigger picture...as long as you keep creating causes effects will follow...

Now coming back to how its related to the evolution! Animals are DUMB! Human is more intelligent but still not intelligent enough.. or not evolved enough to avoid SINS.. but they are certainly capable of doing that all it takes is discipline and the correct way! If human evolves into not creating causes or SINS then eventually all humans will come to a state of mind that they will see no reason of being born again and again just to go through the same life process again and again!

What is EVOLUTION? Evolution is a process of getting better, adopting to situations to live better lives... human have evolved thus far.. can they evolve more? Can't they be a set of beings that follows the eight fold path? They certainly can.. and when they do it the effect is called NIRAVANA, the HIGHEST POINT OF EVOLUTION as well, and evolution doesnt happen overnight.. it takes millions of billions of years... so that's why NIRAVANA cannot be archived overnight.. it takes time!

So unlike Animals, humans can take the initiative and start thinking for them selves much deeper, if you need to get to that pinnacle then you start now.. if you wanna start now.. then there is the PATH for you! If not.. fine.. you keep creating causes and you live to suffer the effects!

1st who decides wats good and wats bad..

"Good" and "Bad" are words we use.... the correct term in Buddhism is cause and effect...... so desirable cause create desirable effects and undesirable cause creates undesirable effects!

How it makes you feel desirable or undesirable? is part of human biology and a process of million years of evolution!

So there's no hidden powers or miracles of any sort.. its pure cause and effect!

2nd who exactly makes sure that ppl who did deed will get good and did bad will face its consequences..

is it just coincidences like science says abt everything? i'm confused, can you clear?

Like I just said.... Nobody!! You make it upon yourself and you take ownership of what you do....

Ex: What happened to Sadaam Hussain? He killed then he got killed...

CAUSE AND EFFECT!!

PS: it was mentioned that thread starter was the one to be blamed. i believe people will decide it when they read the interview. does it fuel anger and hatred or does it help common ppl understand the religion in its proper form

I didn't say that you are to be blamed!

I just told Fazaal that you have a habit of discussing religious issues.. are you not?

 

[Hunter]

This you must tell to the thread starter! Because this is not the 1st time he wanted to discuss about religious issues.. check his posts and see what I mean!

By putting a religion related thread especially directed at Buddhist and Muslims will lead to a discussion along those avenues..... it is invetible... So if you think that is SHIT then you should know who's been SHITTING!

i would like to reply to this
Nope the thread starter is not to be blamed at all
Yes agree.Religious talks shuold be done here. But there is a way of doing it you know.There's a way of talking.

Total lot of crap. We don't belive in miracles of Quran or any miracles at all, unless it appears in a scientific text, these go down in the toilet with shit.

Muslims adhere according to the Al-Quran. Thats what they implement. Look at the above comment. Who cares whether u beleive it or not. You gotta respect it. Because its another religion. So whos the one with the bad attitude?
Its the peoples attitude in this thread that has made this a shit i would say.
Look at walbada's attitude. He's talkin like a pundit as if he knows everything in this world.

So Mr. Sri Lion u and some others also have explained some stuff about your religion. We never told anything against ur beleifs. We Beleive in something and u beleive in another thing.

Originally Posted by pusa07
Man u knw wt? before the Buddha was born, He looked at five different things including Continent & country. To be born in a better country, u hav to hav "Pera kala kusal".. those ppl are sinners who are in those countries.

What if I say thats total crap and it goes down in the toilet with shit? Wheres the respect?So some people gotta know to respect each other while talking. The PUNDITS i mean.
Even Buddhism says to respect other religions ryt?Islam says that too!

 

[fanci]

K.. so well Cleanliness.... Hmmm well i will reply to this if you reply to this..

Well the Monks used to wear Saluwa.. Do you know from what the Saluwa is made on those days... Just search it and get me the reply...

After that we will see weather you are eligible to talk about Cleanliness...

Ha Ha This is like Yanne Koheda Malle Poll,

Talk to the point dude. We have discussed the cleanliness at the OT, not the cleanliness of monks or mullas.

It's eram1334 is the one try to compare that cleanliness to a Muslim who clean himself before praying.. Don't run away from the issue..:

This is a pure ignorance to medical definition of "cleanliness" under the cover of religion.

 

[fanci]

After a microscopic investigation to a microbe plant for those who regularly performing ablution and those who are not regularly performing it, the modern science confirmed that the noses of those who perform ablution regularly remained clean, pure and empty from any microbes. Therefore, the microbe plants established for them, appeared clean and empty from any microbe. Whereas, the microbic plants of those who do not perform ablution exposed a huge amount of different types of harmful microbes such as cluster microbes, rosary microbes which spread quickly and organic microbes which cause many kinds of diseases. Some cases of self poisoning results from the harmful microbes which stays in the nose cavity. These microbes enter into the digestive system and the blood circulation and create inflammations and diseases. Therefore, Islam, asked Muslims to inhate water into the nose three times during each ablution. As far as the rinsing-out the mouth is concerned it is proofed that it protects mouth and throats from inflammations, gingivitis and teeth decay and erosion by removing the remaining of food. It is medically confirmed that 90% of those who lose their teeth, they face this because they don’t clean their mouth & teeth. The pus material and the rottenness get mixed with the slaver and food. The stomach and the digestive system suck them. Then they get distributed to different parts of the body by the help of blood, consequently it causes many types of disease. It is proved that the rinsing-out of mouth strengthens some muscles of the face and makes the face circled. Rather, the sport teachers mention this fact because they concentrate on the big muscles of the body. Washing of hands and legs also is very useful. It removes dust, germs and cleans the body from oily materials which come out through the skin glands. It also eliminates sweating. It is medically proved that microbes cannot attack human skin unless he neglects its cleaning. If man does not clean his body regularly then various harmful secretions remains on the surface of the skin and create severe scratching in addition it also becomes a fertile plant of microbes. Unclean fingers nails scratch and injure the skin and open entries to the microbes. Therefore, ablution helps cleaning the body regularly. Bacteriology scientists who examined Bacteria and funguses which can be transferred to the mouth and nose. Therefore, hands should be cleaned properly before cleaning other parts of the body. This has already been explained by the prophet Mohammed (PBUH) who said, “When a person wakes up from sleeping, he should not dip his hand into the vessel (food – water) before washing it thrice” It is also found that blood circulation at limbs is weaker because they are far from the center of blood pumping (the heart). Therefore, its washing will be a kind of a massage which helps to activate the blood circulation at these remote areas of the body consequently makes the person more vigorous. All these show the value of ablution that a Muslim performs. Source: Scientific Miracles in Islam and Sunna Nabaweya” By: Mohammed Kamil Abdel Samad. Dr. Ahmed Shawqi Ibraheem the member of the Royal Medical Association in London and the consultant of International and heart diseases says that scientists came to know that the fall of the light in the water during ablution and also on the dots of water on the body gives birth to negative Ions and reduces the positive Ions and consequently it relaxes the nervous and muscles pain as well as tension and anxiety. This fact is confirmed also by an American scientist who says: “water has a magic effect Even the dazzle of water on face and hands – he means ablution – is the best means of achieving relaxation and eliminating tension.

Source: Reformation Magazine No. 296, year 1994 From the symposium of the Association of the scientific Miracles in Quran , Cairo

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Another piece of BullS**t, Science is always base on facts according to the science, there is no miracle in it.

These type of articles trying to push people's mindset back to the stone age. And we can see already there are some.

 

[fanci]

Hehe... yeah but im not trying to make any problm here bro..

we alll are Srilankans ... just tryng to clarify there misconfusions....

ARE YOU A SRI LANKAN ??

Ahhh ela ela... Ehenam Asian Cup eka... its gonna b in srilanka i guess .. if so asian cup wil b startin in June rite..........

Anyway Pakistan Zindaabaad......

 

[fanci]

Well thats d dumbest thin i ever heard...

If i Support Pakistan does that means my Nationality is Pakistani....

If it would a be a great ay of getting the citizenship of the countries we need by just supporting the country cricket team..

Im @ class nw ... i got loads of nd lots of points to make clear 4 u both....

Ill catch u soon bros...

Till dat... Keep Smilin......

Mekata Thamai Kiyanne Mokakda ekak thiyagena Thawa ekakkin Kelinna yanawa kiyala!!

Kata Boru kiwwata Diva Boro kiyanne Nae..

I wonder why any of our Muslim brothers not migrating to Pakistan, iran, or any other country where Islam strictly practiced, rather than trying to go to countries like UK or USA ..

 

[sachithmax]

maxxa macha

 

[fanci]

hmmm why so bashing going against religions...

Those who deserved, to be bashed!!

 

[fanci]

I Hoped for something peaceful here...As always in ElaKiri its going to a bad end...I thought this thread would give some positive points to think..but it was transformed into some shit..And i expected some respect towards religions.nothing happened in the end..!

At one place a fellow says stick to the topic while its already out of the topic..

And another thing is that some questions were omitted in this conversation...It was nt qouted at all...

And someone said that the positive points will be appreciated...But the good was also nt qouted (why?becus u dnt want to admit it)...All were only finding faults..!By this what i came to know is some guys are never to appreciate nor to agree some points..

And the pakistan cricket thing....i duno what the hell was running on his mind...I never supported pakistan and some do support pakistan...But i dnt think it is bcuz for wateva so called person meant....There was nothin deep like that in supporting the team..!


And useless arguing anymore coz wateva said.., u neva eva agree some points..u omit it and start another topic......Sad abt it..and have witnessed this in EK b4 too...!

.:: PEACE-OUT::.

*U=thoppiya hari nam daganna

It's all depend on the intention of the person who post the thread. When one can clearly see what his ulterior motivation is, this is the respond you get.

 

[eram1334]

You cannot critisize the givernment without knowing what is politics, you cannot critisize doctors. because you do not know medicine, you cannot critisize atrist, because you have not perfected it.

What a joke! have a life!

eka waradak kerana menihakuta baa ea waradama kerane thawa minihekwa vivachanaya karanna.

mas kane boudayakuta baa mas kana muslim kenekwa vivachanaya karanna.

mas nokan boudayak palamuwa vivachanaya kalayouthe mas kana boudayanwai, ehama nathuwa mas kana muslim waru gana pamanak vivachanaya karala wadak natha.

 

[eram1334]

You have become the king numpty of the thread. Do you know what is scrubbing, and why it is done prior to a surgery? Why they wear gloves? can that dirty beard pushed in to a glove, or can it be scrubbed? I am ROFL.

I am not trying to disrespect any ones believing, but fact you point out cannot be ignored

What a lousy example you have provided!!

Now you are bringing the religion in to this topic, involve with cleanliness at the OT. That is what exactly Walbada was trying to point out.

I have witnessed how those pilgrims clean themselves before entering the mosque for Jumma. And Where they get water to wash there hands.

As a person who lives in 21st century, if you define it as clean, man, I am sorry for you..

Muslims may clean their bodies 5 times a day.. but none of us dip our whole body in the antiseptic 5 times a day right?

Especially a simple wash at the door step of the mosque is not sufficient for a surgeon! I hope you can understand it.. the point here is the more facial hair you have the more dust particles it retains... can you control it? I don't think so! The more alien particles it gathers the more it becomes dirty this is as simple as that! are you denying it?

A normal human being probably could neglect it, but for a surgeon these things are very important because they are responsible of someone's life! You've got to admit that there is a risk here in this case!

As for a normal Muslim I guess according what they believe its fine!

I know Muslims respect their religion, but there are certain situations in life that the risk is just not worth it.. and for surgeons this applies everyday.. that's the difference!

what mean is

becous of five time cleaning normal muslims are cleaner than others

all doctors know what to do before entering to OT,muslim doctors are take more care about it becouse clenness is a must in the islam.

so many ppl explain about this but if you can not trust a muslim surgon complain to the hospital management or health ministrythey will take necessary actions

 

[eram1334]

Also I thought its worth mentioning one of my real life experience... Last time when I was in SL, I took my grandmother for an eye operation she could not see because her eye was covered by the whitish substance (I dont know the real name) anyway next to my grand mother's bed was another old man, probably same age as my grandmother and he is a Sinhalese from Anuradhapura he had beard probably a foot long... and he has come for the same operation..

And on the day that the doctor visited the patients he said to that old man that he MUST shave before the eye operation, and ofcourse he wasn't happy because it is his appearance which is according to him is very important.... and he was wondering what an eye operation got to do with a beard.. and there I am thinking what if this was a Muslim patient...

I know Muslims respect their religion, but there are certain situations in life that the risk is just not worth it.. and for surgeons this applies everyday.. that's the difference!

if doctor says's "the patients must shave before the sugary otherwise not possible to do the surgary" then islam allows to do shaving.

 

[eram1334]

PANATHI PHATA WERA MANI SIQQAPDAN SAMADIYAMI
MAMA PRANA GHATHNAYEN WALAKEE SITIMI

1

MALU, KUKULLU Prane noveda?.ea gana katha nokaranne manda?

2

wature wale giveen giwathwey ea wathura unu karanawita ea giveen ge pranaya ghathanaya kara unu watura ho tea bonnemu.
unuwatura ho tea bona kenekuta NIVAN labiya nohakida?

3

apa kawruth dannemu gass/wal walatah pranayak thibe esenam
goyam gasse pranaya ghathanayakara haal labagena bath kame kese dakkinneda?
elawalu kame kese sadaranikaranaya keranneda?



4

oba ediriye L.T.T.E. maragena marena ghathakeyek siti, obata ohu bombaya pipiraweemata pera ohuwa ghathanaya kirime hakiyawk athai sithamu.

oba ohuwa gathanaya karranneda?
nathinam
"mama prana ghathanaya nokarami" "sathuratatha maithri karami" pawasa
ohuta bombaya piparaweemate ida harinneda?

 

[Hunter]

Originally Posted by sri_lion
Also I thought its worth mentioning one of my real life experience... Last time when I was in SL, I took my grandmother for an eye operation she could not see because her eye was covered by the whitish substance (I dont know the real name) anyway next to my grand mother's bed was another old man, probably same age as my grandmother and he is a Sinhalese from Anuradhapura he had beard probably a foot long... and he has come for the same operation..

And on the day that the doctor visited the patients he said to that old man that he MUST shave before the eye operation, and ofcourse he wasn't happy because it is his appearance which is according to him is very important.... and he was wondering what an eye operation got to do with a beard.. and there I am thinking what if this was a Muslim patient...

I know Muslims respect their religion, but there are certain situations in life that the risk is just not worth it.. and for surgeons this applies everyday.. that's the difference!

Jus cmon. Frankly tell what were u thinking? He'll go and slam the Surgoen?or wat?

You just taking some incident and applying it to the whole muslim community. This is what arouse religious problems in this country. One or two people with views like this can cause a huge problem.

Does islam say that shaving is prohibited?
If the patients beard has to be shaved and theres no choice. What else can the patient do?He has to shave it ryt? He's free to think. Its his choice. he can shave it and do the sugery or he can avoid it. Thats his choice.

 

[just]

Lord Buddha also talks about cause and effect... as long as there is a cause there will be an effect..

actually my question was if you didnt understand "who makes sure that particular affect will only occur for that particular couse. in another way why doesnt this system get messedup"..we all know cause and affect in fact all religions and science based on it.

Now coming back to how its related to the evolution! Animals are DUMB! Human is more intelligent but still not intelligent enough.. or not evolved enough to avoid SINS.. but they are certainly capable of doing that all it takes is discipline and the correct way! If human evolves into not creating causes or SINS then eventually all humans will come to a state of mind that they will see no reason of being born again and again just to go through the same life process again and again!

interesting!!! you are assuming Evolution is a law here and taking it as the base, can i know is this your personel view or view of buddism?no its not its a theory made by human being obviousely can go wrong.

in fact Alfred Russel Wallace leading evalutionist in 19th century who proposed natural selection theory before darwin, and considered the "father of biogeography" said "the unseen universe of Spirit" had interceded at least three times in history: The first was the creation of life from inorganic matter. The second was the introduction of consciousness in the higher animals, and the third was the generation of the higher mental faculties in mankind
source:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alfred_Russel_Wallace#Differences_between_Darwin.27s_and_Wallace.27s_ideas_on_natural_selection

if you need i can give you names of evolutionist who think otherwise than darwin.so if one days its proved evalutions wrong then would you think "NIRVANA" also cannot be achieved - answer please

do you or buddism accepts survival of the fittest, as part of the evalution theory as well - answer please

Ex: What happened to Sadaam Hussain? He killed then he got killed...

ok if that explains. then how would explain what happened to innocent little monks when LTTE massacered in anuradapura sri maha bodiya. we saw the effect but where was the cause?you say we just think they deserved it?- answer please

I just told Fazaal that you have a habit of discussing religious issues.. are you not?

yes i do.is that wrong to discuss religion within the boundries? i never insulted or intended to insulted to any religion including yours. if so please show me and i'm not ashamed to apoligize for it publicly in the forum from each and every person follows that religion. we all make mistakes..

It's all depend on the intention of the person who post the thread. When one can clearly see what his ulterior motivation is, this is the respond you get.

dont blame the person who made the knife cos some idiot used it to murder someone.there are lots of good things all can get from the interview.and please share your secret of reading other ppls minds if can

 

[Hunter]

Lord Buddha has shown a path for you to live free, but as for his teachings.. This life how long it may take will and must end in Niravana!

That is.. if and when you are ready to work towards it... So Lord buddha has shown 2 paths....

1. For people whom are ready to take the path where you can attain Niravana

2. For people whom are not ready yet but thinking more of surviving their current life

So its up to the Individual, Buddhism's teachings will not change... if you are living in North Pole or South Pole if you must kill to live you may kill but it will still have consequences and it is still considered as a SIN!!

Because you chose the path that you do not wish to attain NIRVANA just yet.. but to survive your current life!!! And if somebody wants to attain NIRVANA then it doesn't matter he is in the North or South pole he can always make a commitment and travel to a place where he can full fill the criteria of what's required to attain NIRAVANA!

You commit yourself.. then you get it.... just like every other things in Nature works! NO GOD gonna give you salvation... you work for yourself, if you do good deeds it will do good for you and vise-versa

Like they say... Nothing great has ever archived without a little SWEAT!!

So most of the buddhists are Half Buddhists is it? They can take wateva they want from the religion and throw away the unnecessary ?
Even liquor is prohibited i Buddhism ryt? But who consumes liqour the most in Sri Lanka?

And to attain nirvana he has to travel to another country where he can do it. What about the people who cannot afford it. Oh poor them.

And some ppl think that killing animals is only the cow. There are so many.

Fish, Chicken too..!!

And even egg..! I have seen people saying that theyre vegitarian.but they eat egg. Thats also killing an animal. ISnt it??

And there are more than that , that we should consider abt Killing animals.

 

[Hunter]

ok if that explains. then how would explain what happened to innocent little monks when LTTE massacered in anuradapura sri maha bodiya. we saw the effect but where was the cause?you say we just think they deserved it?- answer please

and What about Mahathma Gandhi?Did he Kill anyone

yes i do.is that wrong to discuss religion within the boundries? i never insulted or intended to insulted to any religion including yours. if so please show me and i'm not ashamed to apoligize for it publicly in the forum from each and every person follows that religion. we all make mistakes..

Its not u the one who should be blamed.
Its The Respective person who started talking in a Shitting Way.
You'll see his attitude the way he has commented throughout the thread

 

[Hunter]

PANATHI PHATA WERA MANI SIQQAPDAN SAMADIYAMI
MAMA PRANA GHATHNAYEN WALAKEE SITIMI

1

MALU, KUKULLU Prane noveda?.ea gana katha nokaranne manda?

2

wature wale giveen giwathwey ea wathura unu karanawita ea giveen ge pranaya ghathanaya kara unu watura ho tea bonnemu.
unuwatura ho tea bona kenekuta NIVAN labiya nohakida?

3

apa kawruth dannemu gass/wal walatah pranayak thibe esenam
goyam gasse pranaya ghathanayakara haal labagena bath kame kese dakkinneda?
elawalu kame kese sadaranikaranaya keranneda?



4

oba ediriye L.T.T.E. maragena marena ghathakeyek siti, obata ohu bombaya pipiraweemata pera ohuwa ghathanaya kirime hakiyawk athai sithamu.

oba ohuwa gathanaya karranneda?
nathinam
"mama prana ghathanaya nokarami" "sathuratatha maithri karami" pawasa
ohuta bombaya piparaweemate ida harinneda?

haha..maxxa machan...

Ai maalu kukullu witahrak nemei.Bithtarath Prana gaathanayak ne.Eth eewa lokuwata penne nehe. Paw wade.
Prana Gathanaya kiyala baluwoth machan mokuth karanna behe.Ai wathura unu karannath behe. Prana gathanaya wenawa oona tharam.

 

[TΞΞNSTAR™]

PANATHI PHATA WERA MANI SIQQAPDAN SAMADIYAMI
MAMA PRANA GHATHNAYEN WALAKEE SITIMI

1

MALU, KUKULLU Prane noveda?.ea gana katha nokaranne manda?

2

wature wale giveen giwathwey ea wathura unu karanawita ea giveen ge pranaya ghathanaya kara unu watura ho tea bonnemu.
unuwatura ho tea bona kenekuta NIVAN labiya nohakida?

3

apa kawruth dannemu gass/wal walatah pranayak thibe esenam
goyam gasse pranaya ghathanayakara haal labagena bath kame kese dakkinneda?
elawalu kame kese sadaranikaranaya keranneda?



4

oba ediriye L.T.T.E. maragena marena ghathakeyek siti, obata ohu bombaya pipiraweemata pera ohuwa ghathanaya kirime hakiyawk athai sithamu.

oba ohuwa gathanaya karranneda?
nathinam
"mama prana ghathanaya nokarami" "sathuratatha maithri karami" pawasa
ohuta bombaya piparaweemate ida harinneda?

Maxxxxxxxxxxaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa machn...................