Interesting interview by Ralipanawe Pannyasiri Himi about muslims...

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daddyimmo said:
That's one of examples too I wanted say so! also other examples like Neil Armstrong heard the Azan on the moon, But according to science, that the moon has no air and sound cant be travelled through air. BUT Neil Armstroing heard the azan on the moon! but how? anybody found? then what do you called that incident is? You hate to call it is miracle because you dont believe it!

First of all this is not the answer to the question I asked! and as for your Neil Armstong heard Aazn theory I found these references.. I suggest you read them..

Reference 1
Reference 2

daddyimmo said:
Oh Another thing I forget to tell is that I noticed one thing about you is that you catch grammar mistakes and such words like i posted some replies! So Yes fairly true means as I told before you hate to call it is a miracle, So I wanted to tell is that other relevant informtion says some important facts about science and Islam! So that you will understand that (according to you) the information about science and Islam is true! Right Am I?

I catch grammar mistakes?:lol: :lol: Dude.. I only read what you typed... you said fairly true... well.. fairly true is quite a distance from absolutely certain!!!

So If you know the facts please present.. we'll take it from there shall we?

daddyimmo said:
Do you know Gary Miller? Do you Know What he says about the Al Q'Ran? Why Didnt you ask me the Question anything about Dr. Maurice Bucaille as I stated before!

Actually I'm puzzled to what exactly are you trying to prove here? are you telling me because Gary Miller or Dr. Maurice Bucaille is saying GOD exist, so he really does exists? what is the relevance of both them in this topic? can you explain a bit?

daddyimmo said:
About Lord Budhha, I appreciate his teachings! He is a human, but a super natural human! so it fair enough that he said that It is not my business or yours to find out whether there is God – our business is to remove the sufferings of the world! That where the point he gave out in his teaching!

Lord Buddha is not a super natural human.. he is just human who understood how the world works (as simple explanation as it gets)

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But Al' Q'Ran Which is divine revealed state clearly who is god! So it doent mean to me as Al Q'ran state that there is god to believe Islam! I took my own time and studied about it! Did you do it?

Actually I dont like to go into this area.. but since you read it and understood it may I ask who wrote Al Q'Ran? Please enlighten me!

daddyimmo said:
NOTICE: Another thing you said to refer to the thread of Islam, It's difficult to find what you were telling, so didnt do it! if you could point out to me pls?

Ok! let me summarize that thread for you, "just" said that Shariah law works and because of Shariah Law the countries implement that law has lower crime rate.. TRUE ENOUGH!!!!

But it is not possible to adopt shariah law in democratic countries, as in chopping off hand and legs because in democratic countries even criminals has their rights!

For more info.. you'll have to go thorough that thread, I have no time to type all those all over again!!! Sorry!!!

P.S: My replies may come in late, due to the busy week ahead!!:)
 

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First of all this is not the answer to the question I asked! and as for your Neil Armstong heard Aazn theory I found these references.. I suggest you read them..

Reference 1
Reference 2

The reference you gave is true, then why he said that he heard the azan on the moon during the last decades? why he became a muslim?
Armstrong denied the statement! then why did the NASA Destroyed the video cassete interveiw of Neil Armstong which in that vdeo it says the he heard the azan! did he tell lies after the visit to the apollo journey! Then it is not true that he heard the azan on the moon is what he is telling! OMG! What a game he played after 75 years of this debate of hearing the azan on moon!

I catch grammar mistakes?:lol: :lol: Dude.. I only read what you typed... you said fairly true... well.. fairly true is quite a distance from absolutely certain!!!

So If you know the facts please present.. we'll take it from there shall we?

Tht what I was trying to say! (expressing is only problem) that you catch what we type, does it mean what we are trying to express according to the word V type! so dont do that ask what he trying to express in the correct manner!

Also didnt read what teenstar posted about science and Islam! didnt read out what Dr. Maurice Bucaille' speech!

Actually I'm puzzled to what exactly are you trying to prove here? are you telling me because Gary Miller or Dr. Maurice Bucaille is saying GOD exist, so he really does exists? what is the relevance of both them in this topic? can you explain a bit?

What they are telling is about, How amazing the Q'Ran is wht they have seen in it! They said that how 1400 years ago the Al Q'Ran clearly shows about science tht been exist today! They didnt tell about god and stuff! The Al Q'Ran Itself Says It All!

Lord Buddha is not a super natural human.. he is just human who understood how the world works (as simple explanation as it gets)

Ok OK OK! SRI Only A small mistake, Lord Buddha is not super natural but a human! who have found buddhist! that fine! and next!

Actually I dont like to go into this area.. but since you read it and understood it may I ask who wrote Al Q'Ran? Please enlighten me!

YOU Said I dont like to go to this area! Ok it's enough to show that you dont want to know every aspects of Islam! Fine No PRoblem! it's ur choice!

As I said Before The Quran is Divine revealed to this world through the Angel Jibreil to the messenger of god Muhammad (PBUH)! It's the word of the Almighty God! (ALLAH!) It's not a written by anyone or Muhammad (PBUH)!

And it's shown clearly by Gary Miller too! in the ariticle of the Amazing Q'Ran! You can check his readings!

Ok! let me summarize that thread for you, "just" said that Shariah law works and because of Shariah Law the countries implement that law has lower crime rate.. TRUE ENOUGH!!!!

But it is not possible to adopt shariah law in democratic countries, as in chopping off hand and legs because in democratic countries even criminals has their rights!

For more info.. you'll have to go thorough that thread, I have no time to type all those all over again!!! Sorry!!!

P.S: My replies may come in late, due to the busy week ahead!!

K! I take another full time to check the thread as u r busy (May be!). Sharia law cannot be implemented in a country like SL the one which is related to criminal acts!

Religous practices are put into law? NO! I'm telling some sharia laws like the concept of Islamic banking etc... Which is a contribution to banking management!

Look Sahria law is bad or good? U can argue it in both ways! (You know Max Weber's Theory, THe Beaucary) what kind of a contribution it has given to the world! Top seniors sees sharia laws as a global opportunity toward achieving startegic goals!
 
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Sorry I was late to reply..

daddyimmo said:
The reference you gave is true, then why he said that he heard the azan on the moon during the last decades? why he became a muslim?
Armstrong denied the statement! then why did the NASA Destroyed the video cassete interveiw of Neil Armstong which in that vdeo it says the he heard the azan! did he tell lies after the visit to the apollo journey! Then it is not true that he heard the azan on the moon is what he is telling! OMG! What a game he played after 75 years of this debate of hearing the azan on moon!

So lesson learned? Dont believe everything you hear.. investigate yourself first!

daddyimmo said:
What they are telling is about, How amazing the Q'Ran is wht they have seen in it! They said that how 1400 years ago the Al Q'Ran clearly shows about science tht been exist today! They didnt tell about god and stuff! The Al Q'Ran Itself Says It All!

Science today says World began from BIG BANG and Human Evolution, does Islam believe this?

daddyimmo said:
YOU Said I dont like to go to this area! Ok it's enough to show that you dont want to know every aspects of Islam! Fine No PRoblem! it's ur choice!

As I said Before The Quran is Divine revealed to this world through the Angel Jibreil to the messenger of god Muhammad (PBUH)! It's the word of the Almighty God! (ALLAH!) It's not a written by anyone or Muhammad (PBUH)!

And it's shown clearly by Gary Miller too! in the ariticle of the Amazing Q'Ran! You can check his readings!

I said I dont like to go into this area not because I dont care about it, it is because I dont feel comfortable digging deep into someone else's faith, So you say prophet Mohommed found Q'ran which was written by god and thus you follow it to this date? fine! lets leave it at that.

For one personal reason I dont like to talk about god related to any religion, its just I feel like walking in the dark! I'd rather like to focus on area which we can actually witness on day to day lives and the impact of our religions maybe!

daddyimmo said:
K! I take another full time to check the thread as u r busy (May be!). Sharia law cannot be implemented in a country like SL the one which is related to criminal acts!

Religous practices are put into law? NO! I'm telling some sharia laws like the concept of Islamic banking etc... Which is a contribution to banking management!

Look Sahria law is bad or good? U can argue it in both ways! (You know Max Weber's Theory, THe Beaucary) what kind of a contribution it has given to the world! Top seniors sees sharia laws as a global opportunity toward achieving startegic goals!

Yes! I agree with you, Sharia Law works.. there's no doubt about it BUT, depending on the background its implemented on! that's a big BUT to certain communities.. Sharia Law cannot be implemented with all rights secured!
 

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oh the thread continues so...i guess its a good thing.

as long as posters dont turn it into a religion bashing one (just a request from me...:))

Machan sri got somethings to clarify..

i know we've talked about this before but just thought of making sure.

did budda talk anything about punishments? or is there
any statement from him supporting punishing in order to keep things under control..
i just want to know anything budda said with regard to it.or he din talk about it at all..

also is there any other personality that buddism recognizes equel to budda or his in the peak of it? like buddist know that he achieved nirvana for sure
(or i think they believe, correct me if wrong).so he's the only one to achieve it?

if you busy its k take your time...
 

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So lesson learned? Dont believe everything you hear.. investigate yourself first!

That's wat I'm doing man! and I Now know Where am I and Wat's my duty!

But Neil's Journey is a mystery! because actully before joining for the Apolla journey he never heard the Adhan in earth and what he heard in the moon was not clear what was is! so returning back, he went for a trip to Egypt which was his first visit to Egypt. In there when see was roaming about he heard something which was heard in the moon so he ask his guider what was is, so replied as it's the Adhan from the Mosque! and so he wondered what how come such a thing he heard like that in the moon! and this is how he wanted to know about Islam and he embraced! So though Neil denies the hearing of the Adhan in the moon,but this is how he came to Islam!

Science today says World began from BIG BANG and Human Evolution, does Islam believe this?

In the first place itself U dont believe there is god! and also if I ask you that scientists who have read the Quraan have said that it's amazing to see how such facts in the 7th century that today are shown to be in keeping with the modern scientific knowledge! Then what do think about the scientists statement? Do U beleive then what the Quraan mentions facts are true? or what?

Big Bang means according the scientists says that how the universe was formed! You know the man's knowledge of the origin of the universe is very limited! Scientists have proposed theories of evolution that are centred around one theme is the original fireball and the original era of matter and anti matter.

But in the Quran itself mentions

"Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession: He created the sun, the moon, and the stars, (all) governed by laws under His command. Is it not His to create and to govern? Blessed be Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds" (V, 7:54)

and there are even more verses from the Quraan to mention about the creation of the earth and heaven! the above are one of the verses! These are all the speech of the Almighty Allah!

If u want to know much about science and Q'Ran here the link!



I said I dont like to go into this area not because I dont care about it, it is because I dont feel comfortable digging deep into someone else's faith

You no need to know someone's fath! if u have a problem try finding the solution for urself! it's up to u!​

For one personal reason I dont like to talk about god related to any religion, its just I feel like walking in the dark!

You dont like to talk about god! But religion without god? then why are you asking about Islam! normally Muslims are the followers of Islam and Islam teaches through Quraan which is the speech of the Almighty God! (Allah)! So the more u ask about is Islam! Only proof is the Speech of Allah, the Almighty! i.e. the Quraan! So then?​

I'd rather like to focus on area which we can actually witness on day to day lives and the impact of our religions maybe!

Look! sitting and waiting a side and watching what is happening is better than go and search for what is happening! that is how most people embraced Islam! They wondered who is Allah!, Who is Mohammad(PBUH)! What is This Q'ran! and they wanted to study about it! But some ignores to! Why?

You like to focus on ONE area, this is what Lord Buddha also was doing right? as he said It is not my business or yours to find out whether there is God – our business is to remove the sufferings of the world! OK! it's up to u!

Yes! I agree with you, Sharia Law works.. there's no doubt about it BUT, depending on the background its implemented on! that's a big BUT to certain communities.. Sharia Law cannot be implemented with all rights secured!

Of course When Certains laws are implemented, it is upto the parliment to decide wheter to change it or not! So how come every laws of Sharia will be implemented as in todays world they see as it is wrong like you see!

Actually you may be talking the one relating to the criminal act how sharia law can be implemented. that is impossible. But the way it work is perfect! but it's too late!




 
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Science today says World began from BIG BANG and Human Evolution, does Islam believe this?

The Big Bang
By Zaghlool El-Naggar, Ph.D.
24/10/2002
pic11-a.jpg
Scientists are now certain that the universe came to being by a big bang

In the Holy Quran we read:
"أولم ير الذين كفروا أن السماوات والأرض كانتا رتقا ففتقناهما.." a (الأنبياء:30)
"Haven't the unbelievers seen that the heavens and the earth were joined together (in one singularity), then we clove both of them asunder.” (21:30)
This verse reflects the unity of creation as a dominating factor in the orderly form of the universe throughout its evolutionary history from one stage to another.
However, long before discovering the established phenomenon of the red shift, and its logical consequence of describing our universe as an expanding one, scientists used Einstein's theory of general relativity to extrapolate back in time and came to the striking conclusion that the universe had actually emerged from a single, unbelievably small, dense, hot region (the Hot Big Bang Model of the universe).

Plz Visit This link to read the full article
http://www.islamonline.net/english/Science/2002/10/article11.shtml
 

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A.K ramson said:
The Big Bang
By Zaghlool El-Naggar, Ph.D.
24/10/2002
pic11-a.jpg
Scientists are now certain that the universe came to being by a big bang

In the Holy Quran we read:
"أولم ير الذين كفروا أن السماوات والأرض كانتا رتقا ففتقناهما.." a (الأنبياء:30)
"Haven't the unbelievers seen that the heavens and the earth were joined together (in one singularity), then we clove both of them asunder.” (21:30)
This verse reflects the unity of creation as a dominating factor in the orderly form of the universe throughout its evolutionary history from one stage to another.
However, long before discovering the established phenomenon of the red shift, and its logical consequence of describing our universe as an expanding one, scientists used Einstein's theory of general relativity to extrapolate back in time and came to the striking conclusion that the universe had actually emerged from a single, unbelievably small, dense, hot region (the Hot Big Bang Model of the universe).

Plz Visit This link to read the full article
http://www.islamonline.net/english/Science/2002/10/article11.shtml

A quick question for the brother!

I've read your link through and through, I'm really sorry I was unable to find conclusive scientific relativity within that article to Q'ran

So May I ask you, if Q'ran believes in BIG BANG and Human Evolution where does God fit in all of this? How did he originated?


P.S: just and daddyimmo, will reply to you later!
 

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hmmm i waz just reading diz thread and it waz pretty intresting!! hmm daddyimmo well i gota little question for you.. um just a lyl bit curious.. as to my science knowledge for a sound wave to travel it needs a medium.. but in moon its almost as if there`s no atmosphere sooo if there is no medium to travel sound cannot be heard!! thus making me think how the heck did niel hear that sound??? just wanted to know dat!! if u could enlighten me on dat matter??? :D
 

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Machan!

RaguXt said:
hmmm i waz just reading diz thread and it waz pretty intresting!! hmm daddyimmo well i gota little question for you.. um just a lyl bit curious.. as to my science knowledge for a sound wave to travel it needs a medium.. but in moon its almost as if there`s no atmosphere sooo if there is no medium to travel sound cannot be heard!! thus making me think how the heck did niel hear that sound??? just wanted to know dat!! if u could enlighten me on dat matter??? :D

Of course wat ur telling is true! If The is no Air in the moon, sound cant travel! But according to neil during the last decades his journey to the moon, he heard something unusual! He didnt even know what was it! Actually looking at this situation, How did actually Neil Hear a sound though in the moon there is no air! That like a mystrey! But After so many years of this debate in US, finally he denies! wat a joke he have been playing! But however one thing! this how he wondered what is Islam and embraced!

 
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well may be he thought he heard something??? people alwayz make ridiculous excuses for their actions!! and any1 who wantz 2 get some clear ideaz about big bang theory i suggest they check diz page which is maintained by the CERN one of the world`s largest labz working in deciphering mysteries of the universe + itz in simple language sooo any1 can understand da theory :D
 

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and about the article which is posted i totally disagree with the interviewer.. nobody`s blaming muslims for eating meat?? even buddhists eat meat and muslims are not the only people who are eating beef ( cow meat ) catholics christians and even some buddhists eat it. i neva really heard any1 blaming muslims for that. i hav 2 admit that this is the 1st tym i heard abt it :S
 

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all of u guys,

think first.for a example in ur aria how many meat shops are there.exm.10 kiyala hithamu ko.eka kadayaking dawasakata harak 10ha denek maruwoth kadawal 10yenma harak 100k maranawa dawasakata.ethakota masekata,awruddakata harakun kiyak eka ariya ekeking marenawada.ehama baluwama mulu lankawema harakun kee denek maranawada.may harak marune nathnam ape gewal wala,ape paarewalwala minissunta wada harak pirila indee.dont blem any relgns.think logicaly.
 

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True! BUT!

RaguXt said:
and about the article which is posted i totally disagree with the interviewer.. nobody`s blaming muslims for eating meat?? even buddhists eat meat and muslims are not the only people who are eating beef ( cow meat ) catholics christians and even some buddhists eat it. i neva really heard any1 blaming muslims for that. i hav 2 admit that this is the 1st tym i heard abt it :S

1 important thing I noticed that about did interview is that all the doubts are cleared out by the buddhist monk between the contradiction most ppl had about Islam! So I hope they understood! and there will be no blamings about it! So let's limit this thread to that understanding! and not start other topics in this thread and u eventually u wants to know send PM to a particular EK Member! e'g' like the big bang topic asked by Sri Lion, some of the quran and science articles posted by Teenstar etc... So let's stop from here arguing about other aspects between religion and stuff each of the members wants to have! Give comments about this! and personally i think is a gud idea too!
 

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Machan sri got somethings to clarify..

i know we've talked about this before but just thought of making sure.

did budda talk anything about punishments? or is there any statement from him supporting punishing in order to keep things under control..
i just want to know anything budda said with regard to it.or he din talk about it at all..

Lord Buddha wanted people to understand what they are doing he saw punishment as one's own karma!

There was no need to talk about punishments in particular like every other occurrences in the world it too generates by a cause

just said:
also is there any other personality that buddism recognizes equel to budda or his in the peak of it? like buddist know that he achieved nirvana for sure (or i think they believe, correct me if wrong).so he's the only one to achieve it?

Lord Buddha is special because at a time where people use to worship trees and rocks and fire for their miseries, lord Buddha went against the norm because he believed that trees and rocks cannot change your lives.. only you have the power to change it! And he sorted out everything by himself and told people to look into themselves rather than sitting ducks until it comes from above!

That's why he is spacial because he was the one to understand it, BUT lord Buddha never said he is the highest.. he always said "Dhamma" is the highest point... he himself said "my teacher is Dhamma, so does yours, after my death it is Dhamma that will continue to be your guidance!"

So to answer your question, did he (Lord Buddha) archived Nirvana? We all believe he has.. and from what we've heard, most of his disciples from his time did archive it too (maybe because Buddhism was not corrupted like now).. well if you ask me how do we know whether they've really achieved Nirvana?Well I can only tell you if I live long enough to see if any of them will ever be born again!
 

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That's wat I'm doing man! and I Now know Where am I and Wat's my duty!

But Neil's Journey is a mystery! because actully before joining for the Apolla journey he never heard the Adhan in earth and what he heard in the moon was not clear what was is! so returning back, he went for a trip to Egypt which was his first visit to Egypt. In there when see was roaming about he heard something which was heard in the moon so he ask his guider what was is, so replied as it's the Adhan from the Mosque! and so he wondered what how come such a thing he heard like that in the moon! and this is how he wanted to know about Islam and he embraced! So though Neil denies the hearing of the Adhan in the moon,but this is how he came to Islam!

Actually, I did some survey about Neil Armstrong and I did not find any hard evidence to back the fact that he is even a Muslim right now! I would really be thankful to you could give me a proper link to see it!

daddyimmo said:
In the first place itself U dont believe there is god! and also if I ask you that scientists who have read the Quraan have said that it's amazing to see how such facts in the 7th century that today are shown to be in keeping with the modern scientific knowledge! Then what do think about the scientists statement? Do U beleive then what the Quraan mentions facts are true? or what?

Do I believe them? Well.. it depends on what kind of scientists they are, and what kind of scientific methods they took into account to compare Q'ran and science!

daddyimmo said:
Big Bang means according the scientists says that how the universe was formed! You know the man's knowledge of the origin of the universe is very limited! Scientists have proposed theories of evolution that are centred around one theme is the original fireball and the original era of matter and anti matter.

But in the Quran itself mentions

"Your Guardian-Lord is Allah, Who created the heavens and the earth in six days, and is firmly established on the throne (of authority): He draweth the night as a veil o'er the day, each seeking the other in rapid succession: He created the sun, the moon, and the stars, (all) governed by laws under His command. Is it not His to create and to govern? Blessed be Allah, the Cherisher and Sustainer of the worlds" (V, 7:54)

So here your statements contradicts!

So was it Allah who created the SUN and the Planets or BIG BANG? And I would like to ask the question again which I've asked from the other friend, if Q'ran said this in a scientific manner did it say where does GOD come from? what are his origins?

daddyimmo said:
You dont like to talk about god! But religion without god? then why are you asking about Islam! normally Muslims are the followers of Islam and Islam teaches through Quraan which is the speech of the Almighty God! (Allah)! So the more u ask about is Islam! Only proof is the Speech of Allah, the Almighty! i.e. the Quraan! So then?

What proof?

daddyimmo said:
Look! sitting and waiting a side and watching what is happening is better than go and search for what is happening! that is how most people embraced Islam! They wondered who is Allah!, Who is Mohammad(PBUH)! What is This Q'ran! and they wanted to study about it! But some ignores to! Why?

So have they found who are they?

daddyimmo said:
You like to focus on ONE area, this is what Lord Buddha also was doing right? as he said It is not my business or yours to find out whether there is God – our business is to remove the sufferings of the world! OK! it's up to u!

If there is actually a GOD so powerful that can create planets and give birth to SUN etc. why not he help all the Muslims who suffer in those WAR torn countries? If you seek GOD all the time why go to hospital when you are sick? Why you can't seek divine intervention to sought it out? after all for GOD who created life on earth it should not be a problem right?!

daddyimmo said:
Of course When Certains laws are implemented, it is upto the parliment to decide wheter to change it or not! So how come every laws of Sharia will be implemented as in todays world they see as it is wrong like you see!

Actually you may be talking the one relating to the criminal act how sharia law can be implemented. that is impossible. But the way it work is perfect! but it's too late!

Yes mainly I'm talking about criminal related laws, others like banking and stuff could be implemented I guess! (provided that it is lucrative for the country)
 

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Hello Sri Cub!

So here your statements contradict!

This is a common statement most non-Muslims as well as the Muslims make when they study the Islam religion! So goes on!


Actually not contradiction but contradistinction! This is a single Surah which has been taken from the Quran! As looking at all the Quran chapters and verses at the same time you won’t find any contradiction but contradistinction


If there is a contradiction in the Quran, then it cannot be the word of Allah (SWT)! Then I would be fooled! As in the Quran says


“Do they not consider the Quran (with care)? Had it been from other Than Allah, they would surely have found therein much discrepancy” {SurahAn-Nisa, V 4:82}

So was it Allah who created the SUN and the Planets or BIG BANG? And I would like to ask the question again which I've asked from the other friend, if Q'ran said this in a scientific manner did it say where does GOD come from? What are his origins?

Alone apart from stating from the Al Q’ran if I ask like this, you were born from the mother’s womb! She is a great asset to this world know? And our hearts calls her a God! She is such great that every morning before you go out you worship her and respect her well right? Why? Because she is such great! Then If I ask is there anybody greater than the mother? And if so will you respect who is greater than the mother? (But don’t ask me about the father as both are equal!) This is how God is, there is no one greater than God, he is the sustainer and the originator and further I can explain according to the Al Q’ran and on!

Looking at the question you asked actually the origin of God! I wonder why you ask about the origin of God than about God! And really it makes me asking you what you know then about God! So Answer me that!

Ok Then what is the meaning of the word God is? God, the word is most often conceived of as the creator and overseer of the universe! Does that mean there is someone who has accomplished God to be the creator and overseer? No, it is God Alone is the originator as to the meaning shows! And if so there was someone who accomplished God to create the universe and the beings, who is he, is he the originator before God? There should always be a start and an end! So If ones believe there is no God then I would have to ask what is the origin of the universe, the sun and the moon, People believe the universe, the sun and the moon are been! And if so anyone conceived themselves that God exist, He or she believes God is been then!

God can’t be begotten as the meaning of the word God shows he is the creator and overseer! Then can he be inherent? Can he stand in need of an accomplisher when he is the creator and overseer? Can he share his dominion when he is the creator and overseer? Does it mean there is origin of God? No, He is the sustainer and the originator!

The lord Buddha is not God, and every one of the followers of Buddhism sees him as special and adores him and his teachings! During the last decades then did anyone accomplish him to find to remove suffering in this world and stay away from reborn? No, he alone for years with great sacrifices has achieved Nirvana! So then how can we ask the origin of his knowledge of his teachings? It’s been right? There is always a start and an end!

Once again The Lord Buddha is not God as everyone knows and Buddhism the religion is no longer a religion but its philosophy which teaches the Dharma! So these Buddhism teachings are all about focusing on getting Nirvana and go to Nibbana! So in here there no such thinking comes around to discuss about the existence of God! So Buddhism did not discuss about the existence of God, does it means that God don’t exist? No, to know then we need to search! So who ever wants to, it’s their choice!

The Quran is the speech of Allah (SWT). It is not a creation. It is one of the fundamental sources of Islamic teachings. The chapters and verses are concerned with basic issues of belief, signs of the existence of god, resurrection, the life after death, the Day of Judgment, the acts of worship and actions related to all aspects of life! So in the Quran it explains who Allah (SWT) is!

“They have invented the Jinns as partners with Allah, while He has created them; and they have fabricated for Him sons and daughters without any knowledge. Pure is He, and far more higher than what they describe. (He is) the Originator of the heavens and the earth. How can He have a son when He never had a wife? He created everything, and He knows everything. This is Allah: your Lord, there is no God but He, the Creator of everything; so, worship Him. He is Guardian over everything. No vision can comprehend Him, and He comprehends all visions, and He is Absolutely Subtle, All-Aware” {Surah Al-An`am, V 6:100-103}

If there is actually a GOD so powerful that can create planets and give birth to SUN etc. why not he help all the Muslims who suffer in those WAR torn countries? If you seek GOD all the time why go to hospital when you are sick? Why you can't seek divine intervention to seek it out? After all for GOD who created life on earth it should not be a problem right?!

God created the Angel who without forgoing will obey Allah’s will and obligations! God created the jinn who is free from obeying Allah’s will and obligations! So God created the human being and has written his deeds, time of his death, means of his livelihood, and whether he will be miserable or blessed in the hereafter! God have given the human being the physical feeling and the ability to think! So as you know Lord Buddha said that it’s our mind that decide what we have to do and what we want to do and if we take our mind to the right path and have control we will be merited! So what ever we do in this earth whether it is the bad deeds or the good deeds our physical feeling may lead to suffering or not right?

"Fighting is prescribed for you, and while it is hard on you. But you may dislike something which is good for you, and you may like something which is bad for you. Allah (SWT) knows while you do not know." {Surah Al Baqarah, V 2:216}

As you ask why not help Muslim in those war countries! I don’t know why you are asking the Muslims than the humankind as a whole! So anyway why there are wars, disasters and calamities? It’s we human beings know decide to strife and the suffering to a third party? It’s the mind that decides for such a thing to happen right? So as long as we use our mind for doing the good deeds and avoiding the bad deeds we are away from the suffering right? So should not be a problem in earth is decided by we human beings right? All these happen because of the different people have differences in their faith and society which have damaged them into the most terrible type of infringement!

In this earth we are not blessed with everything we want but we all have got our needs right? This is not the only realm of life! There is a heaven for those who do good deeds and having lived a good life where an ever happy life is spends and a hell for those who do bad or evil deeds where punishments with sufferings are given! If man is to enter to heaven or hell is decided in performing the deeds on earth! So such deeds we perform is decided by we human beings right? So Life in this earthis a test for the hereafter as in the Quran says

“The One (Allah) who created death and life, so that He may test you as to which of you is better in his deeds. And He is the All-Mighty, the Most- Forgiving” {Surah Al Mulk, V 67:2}

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Well if you ask me how do we know whether they've really achieved Nirvana? Well I can only tell you if I live long enough to see if any of them will ever be born again!

I have heard according to Buddhist teaching that a person with an unclean mind of anger, selfish and revenge will be reborn again and who ever has a clean mind will be unborn which in Buddhism is called nibbana! So Lord Buddha had a clean mind and after his death he went straight away to nibbana and never reborn! Am I right?

You are telling if I live long enough to see if any of them will ever be born again! Is that who has achieved Nirvana! What about the people who are not gone to nibbana? Are they are born again? I don’t think so!

One thing would you please explain to me about the hell and heaven in accordance with Buddhist teaching! I want to know something about that in just few!

Actually, I did some survey about Neil Armstrong and I did not find any hard evidence to back the fact that he is even a Muslim right now!

Also you said I would really be thankful to you could give me a proper link to see it!
Actually you didn’t find? Hmmmm let me ask you something! You only know gave me the reference that Neil Armstrong denied that he heard the call to prayers in the moon? So in this link this statement included shown below!

“Armstrong, 75, also denied he had heard the Muslim call to prayer on the moon and had converted to Islam. “

And the link
Reference 1

Do I believe them? Well... it depends on what kind of scientists they are, and what kind of scientific methods they took into account to compare Q'ran and science!
Of course you are right, if the right method is used you can find the truth! So how far is accurate the scientists have used the right method for experiment? You know there are two ways of acquiring knowledge one is by doing scientific experiment! And two is by the divine knowledge! Did scientist apply both methods to compare? Most of them have done it! So how far we are sure they are reliable and accurate!
What proof?
As I said before the Allah’s message and speech is the Al Q’ran which was divinely revealed to this world through the angel Gabriel to Muhammad (PBUH). Also the hadith which is the As-Sunnah (Legal ways etc.) of Muhammad (PBUH)
So have they found who are they?
Of course, no wonder you can see from the States and Europe today Islam is the fastest growing religion! Also you have heard once Denmark have published some insulting cartoon picture of Muhammad (PBUH) and this how about 50 Denmark people wondered who is this Muhammad (PBUH) and came to Islam!
Yes mainly I'm talking about criminal related laws, others like banking and stuff could be implemented I guess! (Provided that it is lucrative for the country)

Actually the sharia law related to criminal act is fair though even in most Arab countries they have not implemented! Sahria law is the source of the divine laws! It includes law as well as moral principles! It is suitable not only for the Muslims, but for all mankind at all times! Man made laws are based on theories and are to be altered when ever there is contradictions!

Look if a person commits a murder according to sharia law he or she is sentence to death! But if the murder is done due to protect one’s life or before any sinful thing happen to him or her is forgiven! Also other burglary and stuff they are given a chance and if not promised and break it they may take action against the sinner! Anything forbidden by God (Allah, The Almighty) will be forgiven only until he stays away from performing sin and oblige the God’s (Allah, The Almighty) commands!
 

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Sorry for the late reply!

daddyimmo said:
I have heard according to Buddhist teaching that a person with an unclean mind of anger, selfish and revenge will be reborn again and who ever has a clean mind will be unborn which in Buddhism is called nibbana! So Lord Buddha had a clean mind and after his death he went straight away to nibbana and never reborn! Am I right?

Yes! you are correct!

daddyimmo said:
You are telling if I live long enough to see if any of them will ever be born again! Is that who has achieved Nirvana!

As far as I can see this is the only way to see whether they'll be reborn again, any other ideas?

daddyimmo said:
What about the people who are not gone to nibbana? Are they are born again? I don’t think so!

According to Buddhism, as long as you create the cause the effect will be there, you don't think so? why?

daddyimmo said:
One thing would you please explain to me about the hell and heaven in accordance with Buddhist teaching! I want to know something about that in just few!

Yes many people does speak about heaven and hell according to Buddhism, but personally I can't guarantee you that there is such a thing, infact there's no way for me or any other person to know it does exists or not! These are the things that remain to be unknown and even in Buddhism people are advised not to waste time thinking about things that you can't really conceive as a human instead focus on what you can do as a mortal and live a good life and gain all those pre-requisites to achieve Nirvana, as a human that's the best thing you can do... what possible gain one has even if they knew there's hell or heaven? because according to Buddhism everything has an ending.. including hell and heaven!!!

daddyimmo said:
Of course you are right, if the right method is used you can find the truth! So how far is accurate the scientists have used the right method for experiment? You know there are two ways of acquiring knowledge one is by doing scientific experiment! And two is by the divine knowledge! Did scientist apply both methods to compare? Most of them have done it! So how far we are sure they are reliable and accurate!

First you should define what knowledge is.. in science knowledge is based on facts & figures, I don't know how you can classify "divine knowledge", maybe you can help me figure out! In science facts and figures considered reliable and accurate, how about divine issues? how do we know they are reliable and accurate?

If so I ask again, why do Muslims still believe in science at all?

daddyimmo said:
As I said before the Allah’s message and speech is the Al Q’ran which was divinely revealed to this world through the angel Gabriel to Muhammad (PBUH). Also the hadith which is the As-Sunnah (Legal ways etc.) of Muhammad (PBUH)

Why did he had to "divinely reveal"? Why he himself didn't appear and instead of asking another to reveal?

daddyimmo said:
Of course, no wonder you can see from the States and Europe today Islam is the fastest growing religion! Also you have heard once Denmark have published some insulting cartoon picture of Muhammad (PBUH) and this how about 50 Denmark people wondered who is this Muhammad (PBUH) and came to Islam!

So have they found out about proof of GOD's existence which Islam is 100% based on? that was my question!

daddyimmo said:
Actually the sharia law related to criminal act is fair though even in most Arab countries they have not implemented! Sahria law is the source of the divine laws! It includes law as well as moral principles! It is suitable not only for the Muslims, but for all mankind at all times! Man made laws are based on theories and are to be altered when ever there is contradictions!

Look if a person commits a murder according to sharia law he or she is sentence to death! But if the murder is done due to protect one’s life or before any sinful thing happen to him or her is forgiven! Also other burglary and stuff they are given a chance and if not promised and break it they may take action against the sinner! Anything forbidden by God (Allah, The Almighty) will be forgiven only until he stays away from performing sin and oblige the God’s (Allah, The Almighty) commands!

But we have seen cases where innocent people were toured (like Sri Lankan maids) by the Arabs and gotten away with it! so how come? because it is divine law that prevails in those countries! So if divine law fails who will be there to take responsibility? by right the creator of the law.. which means in GOD right? Well.. so far I haven't seen!!