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First temptation:

(Mat 4:1-11 NIV) Then Jesus was led by the Spirit into the desert to be tempted by the devil. {2} After fasting forty days and forty nights, he was hungry. {3} The tempter came to him and said, "If you are the Son of God, tell these stones to become bread." {4} Jesus answered, "It is written: 'Man does not live on bread alone, but on every word that comes from the mouth of God.'"

This temptation is aimed at Jesus physical hunger, his humanity.

Second temptation:

{5} Then the devil took him to the holy city and had him stand on the highest point of the temple. {6} "If you are the Son of God," he said, "throw yourself down. For it is written: "'He will command his angels concerning you, and they will lift you up in their hands, so that you will not strike your foot against a stone.'" {7} Jesus answered him, "It is also written: 'Do not put the Lord your God to the test.'"

Third temptation:

{8} Again, the devil took him to a very high mountain and showed him all the kingdoms of the world and their splendor. {9} "All this I will give you," he said, "if you will bow down and worship me." {10} Jesus said to him, "Away from me, Satan! For it is written: 'Worship the Lord your God, and serve him only.'" {11} Then the devil left him

Satan also likes worship (he will just ask your worship) so he even ask Jesus (God in Human flesh) to worship him but Jesus gave him a nice anwser :)
 
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Riz, you show anything Christians are never going to trust but only what their church says and their poor logic.i stopped arguing with Christians for sometime as they have very weak points, and lack of understanding. i left it to Jesus him self, in his second coming he will testify he will chase this guys out saying who asked you to pray me...I even don't know u... imagine how losers they will be on that day...

 

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Riz, you show anything Christians are never going to trust but only what their church says and their poor logic.i stopped arguing with Christians for sometime as they have very weak points, and lack of understanding. i left it to Jesus him self, in his second coming he will testify he will chase this guys out saying who asked you to pray me...I even don't know u... imagine how losers they will be on that day...


Hey we you are talking about a Muslim Jesus
Our Jesus will removed all Crescent moons, yeah he will reject some of the false churches as well but He will stand against any evil

Evil persons (such as Mohomed), rituals & religions (religions claimed to be peaceful bt violant) can not stand before him

We should Kick the rascals out! May his kingdom come!

True Christians will be saved :love:

Do not think that Muslims people are wiser than any other .... real fools think like that, I am not telling i am wise infront of Jesus I am such a fool but his teaching is simple if you are a average person , and his teaching is so deep if you are a tough person

May God bring glory to all true christians
 
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Hey we you are talking about a Muslim Jesus
Our Jesus will removed all Crescent moons, yeah he will reject some of the false churches as well but He will stand against any evil

Evil persons (such as Mohomed), rituals & religions (religions claimed to be peaceful bt violant) can not stand before him

We should Kick the rascals out! May his kingdom come!

True Christians will be saved :love:

Do not think that Muslims people are wiser than any other .... real fools think like that, I am not telling i am wise infront of Jesus I am such a fool but his teaching is simple if you are a average person , and his teaching is so deep if you are a tough person

May God bring glory to all true christians


As I discussed with you earlier many times, I knew your arguments are very illogical & boring, I don't want to drag once again with you. as you replied for my post, i am in a situation to reply you now.

Jesus is same, there is no Muslim jesus separately, you can't call him even Jesus. His name was Eisha, No one in the history ever called him as Jesus when he was alive. of course I don't deny he was good. but absolutely deny he is son of God. if i agree with you that he is son of God, even I have to call Adam as son of God..now you will say Jesus is only begotten son..Then I am asking you what about Adam he is not begotten?he should be double begotten isn't it..

Just to call Mohammed is evil person is subjective..even well learned honest non Muslims praised him apart from the bias people like you.

True Christians will be saved, who is true Christians? I understand person who follow Jesus is true Christians right..then even we follow Jesus more than you Christians and we pray father as Jesus did.

 
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As I discussed with you earlier many times, I knew your arguments are very illogical & boring :) , for me I always love your questions I don't want to drag once again with you. as you replied for my post, i am in a situation to reply you now.

Jesus is same, there is no Muslim jesus separately, you can't call him even Jesus. His name was Eisha, No one in the history ever called him as Jesus when he was alive. of course I don't deny he was good. but absolutely deny he is son of God. if i agree with you that he is son of God, even I have to call Adam as son of God..now you will say Jesus is only begotten son..Then I am asking you what about Adam he is not begotten?he should be double begotten isn't it..

My Dear friend do not worry about Jesus The son of God he will come soon then you can know for sure ok I do not want to fight with you , but Bible clearly warns us about another Gospel and another Jesus actually bible tells us many will come in his name so be carefull so our Jesus is not Eissa our Jesus died our Jesus raise from the Dead our Jesus spoke with great authority unfortunately you do not B'live Well are are right you can say we all sons of God just like I can call you are son as "son" but the truth is my real son is my Own son with my own charaseristics so don'e get confused

Just to call Mohammed is evil person is subjective..even well learned honest non Muslims praised him apart from the bias people like you. again I ask you did you know that he kills thousands? he took many peoples lives so how can you say your prohet is truely a phophet? ha so I am not going to talk his sex life

True Christians will be saved, who is true Christians? I understand person who follow Jesus is true Christians right..then even we follow Jesus more than you Christians and we pray father as Jesus did.

you guys are following Jesus Christ (my God ?) hey man do not tell lies as i told you before for Muslims he is just a man but for us he is more than a man

Actually you took his true identity , today you are crusifying him you dishonore him but I honor him as a son of god (God in Human flesh) so please do not spoil his name yeah true christians are the one who b;live Jesus is son of God (God in Human Flesh) and follow his commandments

More Than Conquerors

31 What, then, shall we say in response to these things? If God is for us, who can be against us? 32 He who did not spare his own Son, but gave him up for us all—how will he not also, along with him, graciously give us all things? 33 Who will bring any charge against those whom God has chosen? It is God who justifies. 34 Who then is the one who condemns? No one. Christ Jesus who died—more than that, who was raised to life—is at the right hand of God and is also interceding for us. 35 Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? Shall trouble or hardship or persecution or famine or nakedness or danger or sword? 36 As it is written:
“For your sake we face death all day long;
we are considered as sheep to be slaughtered.”[j]

37 No, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him who loved us. 38 For I am convinced that neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons,[k] neither the present nor the future, nor any powers, 39 neither height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God that is in Christ Jesus our Lord.


"it is better to die for the truth than living for a big lie" - y2K :love:
 
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y Dear friend do not worry about Jesus The son of God he will come soon then you can know for sure ok I do not want to fight with you , but Bible clearly warns us about another Gospel and another Jesus actually bible tells us many will come in his name so be carefull so our Jesus is not Eissa our Jesus died our Jesus raise from the Dead our Jesus spoke with great authority unfortunately you do not B'live Well are are right you can say we all sons of God just like I can call you are son as "son" but the truth is my real son is my Own son with my own charaseristics so don'e get confused

I'm not confused at all. Christians are confused. neither i want to fight with you, coz it never ends ultimately. based on experience, you are the person who prove with your own explanation. so only some points i need to note here that.

01-No where he was called as Jesus, but Eisha.
02-Even moses had great authority,did many miracles? can he be god? not at all
03- If Jesus was only begotten son? what about Adam




again I ask you did you know that he kills thousands? he took many peoples lives so how can you say your prohet is truely a phophet? ha so I am not going to talk his sex life

I will only agree with you based on the anti Islamic website that quote wrong allegation with false hadiths. but it is untrue. if u want to base he took many people lives, Im ready to bring some of the quotation from bible that even jesus did so.but i don't want to.


you guys are following Jesus Christ (my God ?) hey man do not tell lies as i told you before for Muslims he is just a man but for us he is more than a man
Actually you took his true identity , today you are crusifying him you dishonore him but I honor him as a son of god (God in Human flesh) so please do not spoil his name yeah true christians are the one who b;live Jesus is son of God (God in Human Flesh) and follow his commandments

Yes of course we follow more than you..see below my personal lists

01- Jesus prayed father, we pray father but you pray Jesus

02- Jesus said father is greater than him, for us Father is Greater than him, but for you equal.

03-He never claimed divinity in bible, so we don't worship him, but you say he claimed divinity

04- Jesus said, "not my will but thy will be done, we submit our will to God.but you don't.

05- trinity word is not even exist in your whole bible, we say he never claimed trinity, you say NO,NO he claimed based on your own interpretation of your bible versus, you fail to produce an direct verse.


06-His first commandment was "Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord." [The Bible, Mark 12:29], we say God is One, but you say God is 3 in one.

07-Jesus said, another comforter will come we trust that as prophet mohemmed, you say it is holy spirit even though it can't be holy spirit as it was existed even at the time Jesus time, also that verse talked about a person.."HE" not 'IT'...you don't trust prophet mohammed

08-in Song of Solomon 5 verse 16:
"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem." mohammed name is mentioned clearly, we trust mohammed, u dont.

09- Jesus circumcised, we muslim circumcised , you most of the Christians don't circumcised

10-Jesus had beard, we most muslim grow beard, you most don't.

11- Jesus said don't have pork,alcohol , we dont have, but you most have

very simple thing...
 

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y Dear friend do not worry about Jesus The son of God he will come soon then you can know for sure ok I do not want to fight with you , but Bible clearly warns us about another Gospel and another Jesus actually bible tells us many will come in his name so be carefull so our Jesus is not Eissa our Jesus died our Jesus raise from the Dead our Jesus spoke with great authority unfortunately you do not B'live Well are are right you can say we all sons of God just like I can call you are son as "son" but the truth is my real son is my Own son with my own charaseristics so don'e get confused

I'm not confused at all. Christians are confused. neither i want to fight with you, coz it never ends ultimately. based on experience, you are the person who prove with your own explanation. so only some points i need to note here that.

01-No where he was called as Jesus, but Eisha.

please see my next reply seperately, by the wya who is this Eissa?


02-Even moses had great authority,did many miracles? can he be god? not at all

hey did he raised people from the dead? did he forgive sins? I don't think so

03- If Jesus was only begotten son? what about Adam




again I ask you did you know that he kills thousands? he took many peoples lives so how can you say your prohet is truely a phophet? ha so I am not going to talk his sex life

I will only agree with you based on the anti Islamic website that quote wrong allegation with false hadiths. but it is untrue. if u want to base he took many people lives, Im ready to bring some of the quotation from bible that even jesus did so.but i don't want to.


Hey do not tell lies Jesus loves us he didn't sin

you guys are following Jesus Christ (my God ?) hey man do not tell lies as i told you before for Muslims he is just a man but for us he is more than a man
Actually you took his true identity , today you are crusifying him you dishonore him but I honor him as a son of god (God in Human flesh) so please do not spoil his name yeah true christians are the one who b;live Jesus is son of God (God in Human Flesh) and follow his commandments

Yes of course we follow more than you..see below my personal lists

01- Jesus prayed father, we pray father but you pray Jesus

Jesus himself is our father but you dishonor him

02- Jesus said father is greater than him, for us Father is Greater than him, but for you equal.

Yeah his original state is always greater than being a human, but most impotant thing is why he came down?

03-He never claimed divinity in bible, so we don't worship him, but you say he claimed divinity

That is your interpretation, if you praise yourself or honor yourself that honor worth nothing but other people even worshiped him but since that do not surpport Islam Issa they said there is no such a verses how terrible is that I can't help you on that

04- Jesus said, "not my will but thy will be done, we submit our will to God.but you don't.
Jesus is the way , the truth and the life whoever b'lives in him shall never die I honestly follow Jesus I know him personally bt can not even think abt it


05- trinity word is not even exist in your whole bible, we say he never claimed trinity, you say NO,NO he claimed based on your own interpretation of your bible versus, you fail to produce an direct verse.

Well Its thier in the bible in one place but I am not wasting my time brother no point of argueing further cause we had enogh


06-His first commandment was "Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord." [The Bible, Mark 12:29], we say God is One, but you say God is 3 in one.
yeah Tri-Unity not three seperate Gods unfortunately you can not comprehend there is only one God, Jesus Christ is "God with us"

07-Jesus said, another comforter will come we trust that as prophet mohemmed, you say it is holy spirit even though it can't be holy spirit as it was existed even at the time Jesus time, also that verse talked about a person.."HE" not 'IT'...you don't trust prophet mohammed

IT or He .... I think since it is non material thing you can use "IT' but since you can have personal experience with Christian God you can use even "HE"
as I told you before I have experience the holy spirit .... so I damn sure that spirit can not be Mohomed the child abuser , Such immoral person can not be the spirit of GOD .... do not insult his holy spirit :love:


08-in Song of Solomon 5 verse 16:
"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem." mohammed name is mentioned clearly, we trust mohammed, u dont.

which language is this ? you can find a verse abt False prophet in the bible

09- Jesus circumcised, we muslim circumcised , you most of the Christians don't circumcised

HEy that is the old testament ritual , have you ever heard of circumcision in heart ? I don't think so ... it is difficut me to explain it here anyway remember Jesus made all things new . OT is strickly GOD's law NT is full of mercy ....

10-Jesus had beard, we most muslim grow beard, you most don't.

Hey do not be such a idiot it is nothing to do with his beard see how narrow minded you guys are ... it is not his external / physical appearance matters the most . it is his teachings and his great love & mercy what matters the most

11- Jesus said don't have pork,alcohol , we dont have, but you most have

very simple thing...

Hey pork is not good for human scientifically that has been proved .... so I do not eat pork I b'live majority don't ( majority means all people not only christians)

I can give you one advised first try to find out his teachings then you tell me what is the core concept of Christianity

nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God. 1 Corinthians 6:10
 

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Names of Jesus - The Significance
What's in a name? Do the titles and names of Jesus hold a significance? In the days when the Bible was being written, the Israelites often chose names for their babies based on the child's character or appearance, i.e. Esau (hairy) and Korah (bald). Some babies were named because of an incident at their birth or their names were based on some hope or prayer of the parent, as in Zechariah's name (God has remembered). Sometimes babies received the name of an everyday object, like Tamar (palm tree), and Tabitha (gazelle). Parents often named their children by the time of day they were born. For example: Shaharaim (dawn), Hodesh (new moon). The condition of the mother also frequently inspired a name: Leah (exhausted) and Mahli (sick).

Jesus was named prophetically. Matthew 1:20-23 says, "But after he had considered this, an angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, 'Joseph son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary home as your wife, because what is conceived in her is from the Holy Spirit. She will give birth to a son, and you are to give him the name Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins.' All this took place to fulfill what the Lord had said through the prophet: 'The virgin will be with child and will give birth to a son, and they will call him Immanuel' - which means, 'God with us.'"

Names of Jesus - The List
Why are there so many different names of Jesus? The names serve as a description of who Jesus is and how He works in the lives of individuals. Some scholars have located over 700 titles and different names for Jesus in the Bible. Let's study a few of them here.

God - Jesus is called God in several passages in the Bible. Along with His sinless life, miracles, and resurrection from the dead, His claims to be God stand firm (John 20:28).

Lord - In the New Testament, this term is used as a salutation to honor a man of distinction. The disciples used this term to salute Jesus as their teacher and master (Matthew 22:43-44).

Word - This title was used by the apostle John to describe the mission of Jesus. The title states Jesus' Godhead and eternal and absolute deity (John 1:1, 14).

Messiah - The long awaited "anointed one" who would deliver Israel. Jesus came to deliver mankind from sin and death (John 4:25-26).

Alpha and Omega - These two characters were the first and last letters of the Greek alphabet. This descriptive title expresses the eternal nature of God - the beginning and the end (Revelation 1:8; 22:13).

Savior - Jesus is the person who rescues mankind from an eternity in hell.

Redeemer - "One who frees or delivers another from difficulty, danger, or bondage, usually by the payment of a ransom price." In the New Testament, Jesus is viewed as the ultimate Redeemer who gave His life as a ransom (Mark 10:45, Titus 2:14).

Light of the World - Jesus is the Person who brings true knowledge of God. Those who reject this light bring judgment upon themselves (John 8:12; 3:19-21).

Lamb of God - This title refers to the Old Testament sacrificial system where God accepted the blood of animals as atonement for sin (John 1:29, 36). Jesus' blood made atonement for sin!

Ruler of Creation - Christ existed before the creation of the world and He is sovereign over it (Revelation 3:14).

Mediator - Because Jesus is fully God, He can represent God to man. Because He is fully man, Jesus can represent man to God. Reconciliation is possible (1 Timothy 2:5).

Bread of Life - Jesus is the one and only supplier of true spiritual nourishment (John 6:35). Way, Truth, and Life - Jesus is the only way to heaven, the only source of truth, and the foundation of all life (John 14:6)!

Names of Jesus - Personal Meaning
What do the names of Jesus mean to you? Do they have personal significance? Is Jesus your Savior, your Mediator, your Redeemer? If not, we encourage you to learn more about Him and accept the gift of salvation He has offered to you.

If Jesus is your Savior, are you overcome with thankfulness for what God has done for you? Take a moment and praise Him using His various names. "Jesus, You are the Way, the Truth, and the Life. You are my Life, for without You my life would be worth nothing. You are my Savior and my King, the Lamb of God who atoned for my sin. You are the Alpha and Omega and You control the beginning and end of each circumstance in my life. You are the Bread of Life and I can feast on Your spiritual nourishment to keep me in perfect peace. You are my Lord and my God. In Your holy name, amen."
 

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Yes of course we follow more than you..see below my personal lists

01- Jesus prayed father, we pray father but you pray Jesus

02- Jesus said father is greater than him, for us Father is Greater than him, but for you equal.

03-He never claimed divinity in bible, so we don't worship him, but you say he claimed divinity

04- Jesus said, "not my will but thy will be done, we submit our will to God.but you don't.

05- trinity word is not even exist in your whole bible, we say he never claimed trinity, you say NO,NO he claimed based on your own interpretation of your bible versus, you fail to produce an direct verse.


06-His first commandment was "Hear, O Israel; The Lord our God is one Lord." [The Bible, Mark 12:29], we say God is One, but you say God is 3 in one.

07-Jesus said, another comforter will come we trust that as prophet mohemmed, you say it is holy spirit even though it can't be holy spirit as it was existed even at the time Jesus time, also that verse talked about a person.."HE" not 'IT'...you don't trust prophet mohammed

08-in Song of Solomon 5 verse 16:
"Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem." mohammed name is mentioned clearly, we trust mohammed, u dont.

09- Jesus circumcised, we muslim circumcised , you most of the Christians don't circumcised

10-Jesus had beard, we most muslim grow beard, you most don't.

11- Jesus said don't have pork,alcohol , we dont have, but you most have

very simple thing...
Jesus: My Father greater than I(John 14:28)
Christians: Jesus and God are equal

Jesus:I can of myself do nothing(John 8:28)
Christians: Jesus is as sovereign and as powerful as God

Jesus: I do not know of the Hour(Math 24:36)
Christians: Jesus is all knowing

Jesus: why do you call me good, No one is good but God alone.(Mark 10:17-18)
Christians: Jesus god and Good anyway.

Jesus: An angel from heaven appeared to him(Jesus) and strengthened him. (Luke 22:43)
Christians: jesus is the source of power
 

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    Hey we you are talking about a Muslim Jesus
    Our Jesus will removed all Crescent moons, yeah he will reject some of the false churches as well but He will stand against any evil

    Evil persons (such as Mohomed), rituals & religions (religions claimed to be peaceful bt violant) can not stand before him

    We should Kick the rascals out! May his kingdom come!

    True Christians will be saved :love:

    Do not think that Muslims people are wiser than any other .... real fools think like that, I am not telling i am wise infront of Jesus I am such a fool but his teaching is simple if you are a average person , and his teaching is so deep if you are a tough person

    May God bring glory to all true christians

    What you mean Muslim Jesus?? There is Buddhist Jesus Hindu Jesus some thing likes this also available?? I believe only one Jesus also I believe he also come back to do his second part, this I learned.
     

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    this Y2K is insane... lol

    "Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."

    Well Y2K. this verse is from the language Jesus spoke from. ( Remember he never spoke english) so this is written in the hebrew bible.



    "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
    of Jerusalem."



    In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
    (pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present.
     

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    Jesus: My Father greater than I(John 14:28)
    Christians: Jesus and God are equal

    Jesus:I can of myself do nothing(John 8:28)
    Christians: Jesus is as sovereign and as powerful as God

    Jesus: I do not know of the Hour(Math 24:36)
    Christians: Jesus is all knowing

    Jesus: why do you call me good, No one is good but God alone.(Mark 10:17-18)
    Christians: Jesus god and Good anyway.

    Jesus: An angel from heaven appeared to him(Jesus) and strengthened him. (Luke 22:43)
    Christians: jesus is the source of power

    This does not vialate anything son

    Please define God according to Islam and what you guys expecting from God :rolleyes:
     

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    this Y2K is insane... lol

    "Hikko Mamittakim we kullo Muhammadim Zehdoodeh wa Zehraee Bayna Jerusalem."

    Well Y2K. this verse is from the language Jesus spoke from. ( Remember he never spoke english) so this is written in the hebrew bible.



    "His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters
    of Jerusalem."



    In the Hebrew language im is added for respect. Similarely im is added after the name of Prophet Muhammad
    (pbuh) to make it Muhammadim. In English translation they have even translated the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) as "altogether lovely", but in the Old Testament in Hebrew, the name of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) is yet present.

    my friend why do you say I am insane? is it because I said Jesus is GOD ?
     

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    What you mean Muslim Jesus?? There is Buddhist Jesus Hindu Jesus some thing likes this also available?? I believe only one Jesus also I believe he also come back to do his second part, this I learned.
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    Hey Arjun When I say Muslim Jesus I mean in Islam teaching abt different Jesus (named Issa) no there is no Buddhist Jesus or Hindu becuase they are not going to re-define my Jesus

    only religion preaching abt different Jesus / Gospel is Islam therefore you can find a very different Jesus in Quran

    so do not get confused :rolleyes:

    Matthew 24:4,5 : "And Jesus answered and said to them, "Take heed that no one deceives you, for many will come in my name, saying, "I am the Christ", and will deceive many."

    Matthew 24:23-27: (this is Jesus speaking): "then if anyone says to you, "Look, here is the Christ", or "There", do not believe it. For false Christs and false prophets will arise and show great signs and wonders so as to deceive, if possible, even the elect. See I have told you beforehand. Therefore, if they say to you, "Look, He is in the desert.", do not go out, or "Look, he is in the inner rooms.", do not believe it. For as the lightning flashes from the East, and flashes to the West, so also will the coming of the Son of Man be."

    Revelation 14: 9-11 “If anyone worships the beast and his image and receives his mark, he himself shall drink of the wine of the wrath of God.”


    luckily we have one hope : both b'live Jesus Christ will come again then we will see who is really this Jesus Christ (Son of Man)

    Revelation 1:7 tells us "Behold, He cometh with clouds, and every eye shall see Him."