LTTE ekta kade yane eun!!!

[mayooresan]

I really like this discussion. Thank you guys for keeping it civilized and to the point.

Yeah! you are correct once any one go unciviliced I'll go out of the discussion. Since I don't found anyone like that I'll like to continue. In this democratic country each and everyone have the right to speak wat ever they like without hurting others.

 

[amila325]

LTTE 1ta Kade yana sinhala untika allagaththe natnam mulinma me rate sithiyamath
Thawa tika kalekin wenaswei but LTTE guys are also the humans but they don't behave like that so they must get punnish somehow now or later Thats my opinion

 

[kasshapa]

Wat I say is Tamils living in this country as Sinhalese from the ancient time. So they have the right to ask to make the tamil as the official language. Is there any thing wrong with it?

Do you have any evidences to say like this?

The history what I know was, this is a Sinhala motherland and if you read about history of Sri Lanka you can find out if.

See this

The country's written history is almost exclusively Sinhalese-Buddhist, but since the earliest times the presence of Tamil-speaking people in the island is mentioned in the chronicles[citation needed]. There is no clearly established date for the arrival of Dravidian people on the island, which is thought to have occurred soon after that group reached South India. While there is no mention of wars between the Sinhalese and Tamils of Sri Lanka, there are many reports of conflicts between the Sinhalese and South Indian kingdoms which invaded Sri Lanka on several occasions because of the prosperity of the country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_lanka

This part I got form web and you can see why Tamils came to Sri Lanka...

I got some friends via internet they says it. My school teacher went to Singapore said he found the tamil language in Sign boards. If you look at the bhasha india web portal it says notice bords are in Tamil, Hindi, Chinese & Malay.

Ok I’ll gave you a simple example

This photo I had taken in front of the Singapore management university and this is there name board

But really sorry I don’t have image of the name board of University of Kelaniya ,Sri Lanka, but hope you have seen it every day when you enter form the kandy road to university , so hope you can find out the different between these two

Most of the notice boards in Singapore are English, and I can sure that

That your favorite country Singapore started 1956 before that it was under the Malaysia and they have separate it because they thought it better to keep it like what it have now. And allow to any nation to come and do business there.

So please don’t try to compare Sri Lanka and Singapore as a same

...

 

[ravana]

Uddeda? Jeevitha Arakshawada?? Minimarana kotingen asaran ayage jeevitha beraganne kohomada?

Ekata ape soldaduwo unge pawulwala heta dawasa ape ada dawasa vennuwen pujakaranawa!

Katada bola udde ona? American dollar walata walikana unta misa?
Uddayak nethnam thopi jeevath wenne kohomada?
American $$$$$$ munge bada gosthare!

 

[sld]

Uddeda? Jeevitha Arakshawada?? Minimarana kotingen asaran ayage jeevitha beraganne kohomada?

Ekata ape soldaduwo unge pawulwala heta dawasa ape ada dawasa vennuwen pujakaranawa!

Katada bola udde ona? American dollar walata walikana unta misa?
Uddayak nethnam thopi jeevath wenne kohomada?
American $$$$$$ munge bada gosthare!

Udde????
Macho isn't it yudde??
katada mae oya baninne???

 

[chanaka_1987]

The problem with war is its aftermath. We might support it thinking that its the right thing to do. But no one sees the bigger picture of war. If we start a war, We'll have to live our lives with fear and Suspicion. Any government who wants to start a war does it because it's failing to rule the country. For example the present government does'nt care about the people. They might have even not thought about the high cost of living.

Though our army found ways of gaining territory, it's not easy for them to guard it. If our army goes in to war and defeat the whole LTTE then thats a good thing. But the problem is, is it possible? We are not talking about an other army here, It's a terrorist group which uses gurrilla fighting strategies.

But anyway when a war starts a lot of innocent lives will be taken. A lot of blood will be shed. And it could last for along time. I'm not against the people who patriotically and in love for our country, support the war. But what I'm asking is think about the aftermath.

 

[sld]

The problem with war is its aftermath. We might support it thinking that its the right thing to do. But no one sees the bigger picture of war. If we start a war, We'll have to live our lives with fear and Suspicion. Any government who wants to start a war does it because it's failing to rule the country. For example the present government does'nt care about the people. They might have even not thought about the high cost of living.

Though our army found ways of gaining territory, it's not easy for them to guard it. If our army goes in to war and defeat the whole LTTE then thats a good thing. But the problem is, is it possible? We are not talking about an other army here, It's a terrorist group which uses gurrilla fighting strategies.

But anyway when a war starts a lot of innocent lives will be taken. A lot of blood will be shed. And it could last for along time. I'm not against the people who patriotically and in love for our country, support the war. But what I'm asking is think about the aftermath.

I understand your point of view... but what's your solution??? You agree there is a problem and you don't like the path the current government is taking. Critisism is good but a solution will be better. What should the government do now if not go to war???

 

[chanaka_1987]

You are right. Well the government can get foreign aid, and put some sort of direct pressure upon the LTTE and force them to Take part in peace talks. The United states is against terrotism. And most of the other countries are aswell. So why not take this oppertunity to put some pressure on the LTTE.

And the peace talks should be held very seriously. (because the last time some ministers practiucally cracked jokes during talks). And this would create an enviroment where north and south people can come in contact, and get rid of any hate they have on each other.

The government should let the LTTE leaders see the world. The last time this happened, the LTTE broke down to 2 sides.
Well these are the options I see other than war.

 

[mayooresan]

Do you have any evidences to say like this?

The history what I know was, this is a Sinhala motherland and if you read about history of Sri Lanka you can find out if.

See this

The country's written history is almost exclusively Sinhalese-Buddhist, but since the earliest times the presence of Tamil-speaking people in the island is mentioned in the chronicles[citation needed]. There is no clearly established date for the arrival of Dravidian people on the island, which is thought to have occurred soon after that group reached South India. While there is no mention of wars between the Sinhalese and Tamils of Sri Lanka, there are many reports of conflicts between the Sinhalese and South Indian kingdoms which invaded Sri Lanka on several occasions because of the prosperity of the country.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sri_lanka

This part I got form web and you can see why Tamils came to Sri Lanka...





Ok I’ll gave you a simple example

This photo I had taken in front of the Singapore management university and this is there name board

But really sorry I don’t have image of the name board of University of Kelaniya ,Sri Lanka, but hope you have seen it every day when you enter form the kandy road to university , so hope you can find out the different between these two

Most of the notice boards in Singapore are English, and I can sure that

That your favorite country Singapore started 1956 before that it was under the Malaysia and they have separate it because they thought it better to keep it like what it have now. And allow to any nation to come and do business there.

So please don’t try to compare Sri Lanka and Singapore as a same

...

I accept that Sri Lankan Context is completely different from Singapore context.....

I Strongly oppose your idea about the Tamils. Even before vijeya came to Sri Lanka Dravidan people lived in This land (nagar, Iyakar). This wikipedia article may be written by Sinhalese... Wat is the evident you have???? Even in the Ramayana story it's says about the Hindu King Ravana of the sri Lanka. The only evidence you have is mahavamsa, which we don't belive in. None of the Sri Lankan Tamils belive in your statement.

I talked about Air port. but you got some university board. The problem arises when one language given priority compare to other native language. See this boad it's in english. Not in Malay or Chineese or Tamil so the natives have no problem regarding this. If there are only Chineese or Tamil or Malay then It'll lead to problem.

 

[sld]

You are right. Well the government can get foreign aid, and put some sort of direct pressure upon the LTTE and force them to Take part in peace talks. The United states is against terrotism. And most of the other countries are aswell. So why not take this oppertunity to put some pressure on the LTTE.

And the peace talks should be held very seriously. (because the last time some ministers practiucally cracked jokes during talks). And this would create an enviroment where north and south people can come in contact, and get rid of any hate they have on each other.

The government should let the LTTE leaders see the world. The last time this happened, the LTTE broke down to 2 sides.
Well these are the options I see other than war.

Well we had peace talk 3-4 times and the ltte used them to arm themselves under the guise of peace talks. Even this time they were trying to buy weapons until the US FBI busted 8 people trying buy surface to air missles and rifles. They are at a really weak point they have ever been. So I think that's why the government is pushing them more. It's easier to deal with a weak opponent than a strong one. If they are desparate enough the deal we get through the negotiations could favor us more than them. Just my 2 cents.

I do agree that we need to send some tough negotiators to the table rather than some uneducated morons.

 

[mayooresan]

You are right. Well the government can get foreign aid, and put some sort of direct pressure upon the LTTE and force them to Take part in peace talks. The United states is against terrotism. And most of the other countries are aswell. So why not take this oppertunity to put some pressure on the LTTE.

And the peace talks should be held very seriously. (because the last time some ministers practiucally cracked jokes during talks). And this would create an enviroment where north and south people can come in contact, and get rid of any hate they have on each other.

The government should let the LTTE leaders see the world. The last time this happened, the LTTE broke down to 2 sides.
Well these are the options I see other than war.

Both India and US will never support LTTE. Why these people don't understand this???
If Sri Lankan gov go for war then It'll give a bad image to International community and It'll damage the image of Sri Lanka.

It's my personal openion but Ranil takled well with LTTE. At that time we never had the fear of war...
Even at that time several parties shouted that army people are getting killed but now wat happening in Contry? Still lots of army more the early time getting killed by LTTE.

 

[sld]

Both India and US will never support LTTE. Why these people don't understand this???
If Sri Lankan gov go for war then It'll give a bad image to International community and It'll damage the image of Sri Lanka.

It's my personal openion but Ranil takled well with LTTE. At that time we never had the fear of war...
Even at that time several parties shouted that army people are getting killed but now wat happening in Contry? Still lots of army more the early time getting killed by LTTE.

Still you have to agree even during the so call peace talks ltte were killing people. So what's the point of peace if people are dying. I believe that unless the ltte is at a really really weakened state they will never allow a peaceful resolution to the issue. the only powere they have is through weapons and why would you think they'll give it up for sake of peace.

 

[kasshapa]

You are right. Well the government can get foreign aid, and put some sort of direct pressure upon the LTTE and force them to Take part in peace talks. The United states is against terrotism. And most of the other countries are aswell. So why not take this oppertunity to put some pressure on the LTTE.

And the peace talks should be held very seriously. (because the last time some ministers practiucally cracked jokes during talks). And this would create an enviroment where north and south people can come in contact, and get rid of any hate they have on each other.

The government should let the LTTE leaders see the world. The last time this happened, the LTTE broke down to 2 sides.
Well these are the options I see other than war.

Yes that was really good if it happen as you wish,

But I’m sure it won’t be like that, because we have more that 5, 6 times experience, what happened after peace talk, LTTE get some more moneys and weapons form countries who help for this war and they LTTE will get a free trip to Norway and collect money, but for there trip we have to pay as a Sir Lankans.

What else past all the time happened so do we want to do the same again?

USA was against terrorists but they won’t agents LTTE, if they really want to stop all these activities of LTTE all over the world, we can simply solve this problem but I can’t see that they help in that way. Only just announce some message asking come to talk that only.


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[mayooresan]

Still you have to agree even during the so call peace talks ltte were killing people. So what's the point of peace if people are dying. I believe that unless the ltte is at a really really weakened state they will never allow a peaceful resolution to the issue. the only powere they have is through weapons and why would you think they'll give it up for sake of peace.

They'll never put their arms down that obvious. They'll say they have no secure without their arms!!!
I don't think government can make them weak. If goverment start the war then they will grow more. I'm not supporting them this is wat hapening from the early time. In 70's they had some rifles but now they have even Taks. So how it's possible. Sampur may give you a good idea that government can easily beat LTTE, but it's more complex issue.
If they are taken into peace process then surely INDIA will rule them and I think that will happen very soon. My prof in campus always say this this conflict will come to halt very soon. LTTE will be demanded by India to come to a settlement and there will be a good situation in this country... We can be the icon of development in the region.

 

[sld]

USA was against terrorists but they won’t agents LTTE, if they really want to stop all these activities of LTTE all over the world, we can simply solve this problem but I can’t see that they help in that way. Only just announce some message asking come to talk that only.


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Actually I don't know what our people have against the US. Every thing that goes wrong is the United States fault.
Machan do you know the us spent about $0.4 million on a sting operation to catch 8 tamils who wanted to buy weapons for ltte. They even wanted to buy surface to air missles. If the US didn't do anything and they got the missles.... just imagine where our Kfirs will be. Ltte is the enemy not the US.

 

[kasshapa]

Actually I don't know what our people have against the US. Every thing that goes wrong is the United States fault.
Machan do you know the us spent about $0.4 million on a sting operation to catch 8 tamils who wanted to buy weapons for ltte. They even wanted to buy surface to air missles. If the US didn't do anything and they got the missles.... just imagine where our Kfirs will be. Ltte is the enemy not the US.

Yes machan this is true but what I want say was, as a very power full county in the world they can do more than this, if they really want to stop this. Yes there may have more than this thing to solve for them, but as Srilanka this was major thing we have to solve.


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[kasshapa]

I talked about Air port. but you got some university board. The problem arises when one language given priority compare to other native language. See this boad it's in english. Not in Malay or Chineese or Tamil so the natives have no problem regarding this. If there are only Chineese or Tamil or Malay then It'll lead to problem.

Do I start comparing Sri Lanka and Singapore?

Does I Start saying all notices board in Singapore have Tamil?

Do I say Singapore notices have Malay or Chinese? I said all in English. And I gave URL to see that there using English for all there administrative work.

After I gave example with all the evidence you talk some thing else??

As I know in Sri Lanka most of administrative notice in Sinhala Tamil and English. But Singapore not likes that.

 

[kasshapa]

But most of the Tamil students study in Tamil. and you can see tamil notice boards in Airport and all the place without a single spelling mistake.
Wat we have in Sri Lanka is a bord and something like tamil. Even in the Entrace of Colombo the Name of colombo in Tamil wrote in a wrong manner.

As I know entrance of Colombo board belong to the municipal council of Colombo, and there the many Tamil council members all came to there with your vote.

So if they can’t correct this simple thing for long time what is the purpose of them keep there?

And do you think this will be problem of Sinhala people did?

 

[mayooresan]

Do I start comparing Sri Lanka and Singapore?

Does I Start saying all notices board in Singapore have Tamil?

Do I say Singapore notices have Malay or Chinese? I said all in English. And I gave URL to see that there using English for all there administrative work.

After I gave example with all the evidence you talk some thing else??

As I know in Sri Lanka most of administrative notice in Sinhala Tamil and English. But Singapore not likes that.

You never compared Sri Lanka with Singapore and you asked me not to compare this.
Nope but I talked about Airport but you came up with university notice board
NO! but the issue is if only enlgish then it'll not be a problem in Sri Lanka either
No I talked regarding this issue.
Yes sure most of the notice boards have 3 languages but wat I said was Tamil is with mistakes. It didn't mean anything it shows how Tamil neglected. Even in Jaffna Sinhala is written clearly but why not Tamil?

 

[mayooresan]

As I know entrance of Colombo board belong to the municipal council of Colombo, and there the many Tamil council members all came to there with your vote.

So if they can’t correct this simple thing for long time what is the purpose of them keep there?

And do you think this will be problem of Sinhala people did?

Tamil politicians specially in These area is selfish! Even in Parliament this issue was taken by tamil politicians but no action has taken.....
But I agree that your argument is fair