POLYGAMY IN ISLAM

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aye_sha90 said:
A reflection on the meanings of the poligamiy regarding of the various social context in which the Muslims live is particularly necessary. It represent the more known Muslim norm, outside of the Umma, and which provokes more abashment in the western women (the men seem more loyal in comprising…), bcoz it comes immediately interpreted as sign of discrimination in the comparisons of the feminine being. ancient cultures, which are based on men, who got the control over evrything.
Made it as a right, which is writtn on that holy Koran. We must interrogate ourselves on the opportunity nd this unfair right these men get.


You always try to find excuses and to justify all yur cruelty!

Sister thanx for your comment ......

firstly you should know that muslim is a person who obey Allah Almighty and His Prophet. a person who submitted his will to Allah Almighty and His Prophet he is a muslim.

you can't be muslim just becoz your parents and ancesters are muslim

you can't be a muslim just becoz your name is muslim

we muslims can obey Allah Almighty by fullfilling his commandment in the Glorious Al Quran and the and the following the sunnah ( ACTIONS , WORDS AND THE APPROVALS OF MY BELOVED PROPHET ). Islam is not responsible for the cruelty of very few so called muslims who indulge in cruelty or what ever..... Islam is a religion of peace there are very few so alled muslims who doesn't know what are the fundements in Islam is being indulge in cruelty. Allah Almighty and His Prophet said not take others soul unjustly but few socalled muslims who deosn't know what is the fundement of of islam killing innocence which is not accepted in islam. becoz of few so called muslims you can't blame on total muslim world and islam. if you want to know islam check Glorious Al Quran and the and the following the sunnah ( ACTIONS , WORDS AND THE APPROVALS OF MY BELOVED PROPHET ).

let's see what Al Quran And The Sunnah Say's about Women

The Qur'an says:

And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women. (2:226)

For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward. (33:35)

The Qur'an admonishes those men who oppress or ill-treat women:

O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should you treat them with harshness, that you may take away part of the dowry you have given them - except when they have become guilty of open lewdness. On the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If you take a dislike to them, it may be that you dislike something and Allah will bring about through it a great deal of good. (4:19)

Islam regards men and women as being of the same essence created from a single soul. The Qur'an declares:

O mankind! Reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you from a single person, created, of like nature, his mate, and from this pair scattered (like seeds) countless men and women. Reverence Allah, through Whom you demand your mutual (rights), and reverence the wombs (that bore you); for Allah ever watches over you. (4:1)

The Prophet of Islam (peace be upon him) said, "Women are the twin halves of men." The Qur'an emphasizes the essential unity of men and women in a most beautiful simile:
They (your wives) are your garment and you are a garment for them. (2:187)

The Shari'ah regards women as the spiritual and intellectual equals of men. The main distinction it makes between them is in the physical realm based on the equitable principle of fair division of labor. It allots the more strenuous work to the man and makes him responsible for the maintenance of the family. It allots the work of managing the home and the upbringing and training of children to the woman, work which has the greatest importance in the task of building a healthy and prosperous society.

It is a fact, however, that sound administration within the domestic field is impossible without a unified policy. For this reason the Shari'ah requires a man, as head of the family, to consult with his family and then to have the final say in decisions concerning it. In doing so he must not abuse his prerogative to cause any injury to his wife. Any transgression of this principle involves for him the risk of losing the favor of Allah, because his wife is not his subordinate but she is, to use the words of the Prophet (peace be upon him), 'the queen of her house', and this is the position a true believer is expected to give his wife. In contrast to these enlightened teachings of Islam in respect of women, Western talk of women's liberation or emancipation is actually a disguised form of exploitation of her body, deprivation of her honor, and degradation of her soul!

if you want to know more deeply click below

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109103


When it comes to polygyny it is not a rule in Islam but it is a exception

 

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saharaz said:
Sister thanx for your comment ......

firstly you should know that muslim is a person who obey Allah Almighty and His Prophet. a person who submitted his will to Allah Almighty and His Prophet he is a muslim.

you can't be muslim just becoz your parents and ancesters are muslim

you can't be a muslim just becoz your name is muslim

we muslims can obey Allah Almighty by fullfilling his commandment in the Glorious Al Quran and the and the following the sunnah ( ACTIONS , WORDS AND THE APPROVALS OF MY BELOVED PROPHET ). Islam is not responsible for the cruelty of very few so called muslims who indulge in cruelty or what ever..... Islam is a religion of peace there are very few so alled muslims who doesn't know what are the fundements in Islam is being indulge in cruelty. Allah Almighty and His Prophet said not take others soul unjustly but few socalled muslims who deosn't know what is the fundement of of islam killing innocence which is not accepted in islam. becoz of few so called muslims you can't blame on total muslim world and islam. if you want to know islam check Glorious Al Quran and the and the following the sunnah ( ACTIONS , WORDS AND THE APPROVALS OF MY BELOVED PROPHET ).

let's see what Al Quran And The Sunnah Say's about Women

The Qur'an says:

And for women are rights over men similar to those of men over women. (2:226)

For Muslim men and women, for believing men and women, for devout men and women, for true men and women, for men and women who are patient and constant, for men and women who humble themselves, for men and women who give in charity, for men and women who fast, for men and women who guard their chastity, and for men and women who engage much in Allah's praise, for them has Allah prepared forgiveness and great reward. (33:35)

The Qur'an admonishes those men who oppress or ill-treat women:

O you who believe! You are forbidden to inherit women against their will. Nor should you treat them with harshness, that you may take away part of the dowry you have given them - except when they have become guilty of open lewdness. On the contrary live with them on a footing of kindness and equity. If you take a dislike to them, it may be that you dislike something and Allah will bring about through it a great deal of good. (4:19)

Islam regards men and women as being of the same essence created from a single soul. The Qur'an declares:

O mankind! Reverence your Guardian-Lord, who created you from a single person, created, of like nature, his mate, and from this pair scattered (like seeds) countless men and women. Reverence Allah, through Whom you demand your mutual (rights), and reverence the wombs (that bore you); for Allah ever watches over you. (4:1)

The Prophet of Islam (peace be upon him) said, "Women are the twin halves of men." The Qur'an emphasizes the essential unity of men and women in a most beautiful simile:
They (your wives) are your garment and you are a garment for them. (2:187)

The Shari'ah regards women as the spiritual and intellectual equals of men. The main distinction it makes between them is in the physical realm based on the equitable principle of fair division of labor. It allots the more strenuous work to the man and makes him responsible for the maintenance of the family. It allots the work of managing the home and the upbringing and training of children to the woman, work which has the greatest importance in the task of building a healthy and prosperous society.

It is a fact, however, that sound administration within the domestic field is impossible without a unified policy. For this reason the Shari'ah requires a man, as head of the family, to consult with his family and then to have the final say in decisions concerning it. In doing so he must not abuse his prerogative to cause any injury to his wife. Any transgression of this principle involves for him the risk of losing the favor of Allah, because his wife is not his subordinate but she is, to use the words of the Prophet (peace be upon him), 'the queen of her house', and this is the position a true believer is expected to give his wife. In contrast to these enlightened teachings of Islam in respect of women, Western talk of women's liberation or emancipation is actually a disguised form of exploitation of her body, deprivation of her honor, and degradation of her soul!

if you want to know more deeply click below

http://www.elakiri.com/forum/showthread.php?t=109103


When it comes to polygyny it is not a rule in Islam but it is a exception



Listen up, i have nothing in contray with your way of thnking and your culture.
but the scandalous, humanless and foolish acts of islam extremists are not acceptable..
And the poligamy?
How can u find excuses to justity that?
Answer to this question.. Would you want yo son in law to be with ..dunno.. let's think 10 wives?
i guess not..
well, You people are only yalkin based ONLY on your holy Koran, repeatin always the same thing "that is writtn on our Koran" and we are followin its teachings and respecting our prophet Muhammad.
Well, is there writtn on the Koran that a father has the right 2 kill his daughter coz she disobedeys to him?
Ehem. well, Maybe your God has the right 2 punish her, but not the court of any1 else... They are pretending to be what? Gods on Earth? Are thy sent by Allah to serve him and punish people who disobedey?

What would u tell me abt the executions.. specially minors executions.??
How can you justify that?

You are ready to destroy the differences in da world and you have the guarantees in paradise with Allah who's ready 2 welcome you?
 

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aye_sha90 said:
Listen up, i have nothing in contray with your way of thnking and your culture.
but the scandalous, humanless and foolish acts of islam extremists are not acceptable..
And the poligamy?
How can u find excuses to justity that?
Answer to this question.. Would you want yo son in law to be with ..dunno.. let's think 10 wives?
i guess not..
well, You people are only yalkin based ONLY on your holy Koran, repeatin always the same thing "that is writtn on our Koran" and we are followin its teachings and respecting our prophet Muhammad.
Well, is there writtn on the Koran that a father has the right 2 kill his daughter coz she disobedeys to him?
Ehem. well, Maybe your God has the right 2 punish her, but not the court of any1 else... They are pretending to be what? Gods on Earth? Are thy sent by Allah to serve him and punish people who disobedey?

What would u tell me abt the executions.. specially minors executions.??
How can you justify that?

You are ready to destroy the differences in da world and you have the guarantees in paradise with Allah who's ready 2 welcome you?


Listen up, i have nothing in contray with your way of thnking and your culture.

for your kind info Islam is not a Culture but it is a Religion for all human kind

but the scandalous, humanless and foolish acts of islam extremists are not acceptable..

I told you before Islam is a religion of peace there are very few so alled muslims who doesn't know what are the fundements in Islam is being indulge in cruelty. Allah Almighty and His Prophet said not take others soul unjustly but few socalled muslims who deosn't know what is the fundement of of islam killing innocence which is not accepted in islam. becoz of few so called muslims you can't blame on total muslim world and islam. if you want to know islam check Glorious Al Quran and the and the following the sunnah ( ACTIONS , WORDS AND THE APPROVALS OF MY BELOVED PROPHET ).


And the poligamy?
How can u find excuses to justity that?

Answer to this question.. Would you want yo son in law to be with ..dunno.. let's think 10 wives?
i guess not..

polygyny it is not a rule in Islam but it is a exception . being a muslim personaly i rather prefer my son in law is having 2 wives legally than my son in law is having many wife illegally .... in islam you can't have more 4 wives

well, You people are only yalkin based ONLY on your holy Koran, repeatin always the same thing "that is writtn on our Koran" and we are followin its teachings and respecting our prophet Muhammad.
Well, is there writtn on the Koran that a father has the right 2 kill his daughter coz she disobedeys to him?
Ehem. well, Maybe your God has the right 2 punish her, but not the court of any1 else... They are pretending to be what? Gods on Earth? Are thy sent by Allah to serve him and punish people who disobedey?

if you don't mind can you give me the chapter number and the verse number of that particular statement that father can kill her daugter story ............

it is very clear that your media, your parents and elders, your teachers and your total environment is portraiting islam in negative way by putting false information like you mention above.. please if you want to know the truth study the Glorious Al Quran by yourself

What would u tell me abt the executions.. specially minors executions.??
How can you justify that?

executing minors and insane are prohibitted in islam nowhere in the Al Quran Or Al hadeeth it says execute minors and insane ...... but when it comes to an adult he/she himself/herself should accept his sin voluntarily for their sin which she has committed then only a islamic government can execute the person. it is very rare a person volunterily accept execution due to his poor faith. personaly i will not accept the executions are done by some organization or groups execution should be done by a islamic country. secondly this execution rule in islam is not for non-muslims it is for muslims.
 

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Robert Briffault wrote in The Making of Humanity:

"Chemistry, the rudiments of which arose in the processes employed by Egyptian metallurgists and jewellers combining metals into various alloys and 'tinting' them to resemble gold processes long preserved as a secret monopoly of the priestly colleges, and clad in the usual mystic formulas, developed in the hands of the Arabs into a widespread, organized passion for research which led them to the invention of distillation, sublimation, filtration, to the discovery of alcohol, of nitric and sulphuric acids (the only acid known to the ancients was vinegar), of the alkalis, of the salts of mercury, of antimony and bismuth, and laid the basis of all subsequent chemistry and physical research."[5]

Robert Briffault wrote in The Making of Humanity:

"The debt of our science to that of the Arabs does not consist in startling discoveries or revolutionary theories; science owes a great deal more to Arab culture, it owes its existence. The ancient world was, as we saw, pre- scientific. The astronomy and mathematics of the Greeks were a foreign importation never thoroughly acclimatized in Greek culture. The Greeks systematized, generalized and theorized, but the patient ways of investigation, the accumulation of positive knowledge, the minute methods of science, detailed and prolonged observation, experimental inquiry, were altogether alien to the Greek temperament. [...] What we call science arose in Europe as a result of a new spirit of inquiry, of new methods of investigation, of the method of experiment, observation, measurement, of the development of mathematics in a form unknown to the Greeks. That spirit and those methods were introduced into the European world by the Arabs."[9]
Science is the most momentous contribution of Arab civilization to the modern world, but its fruits were slow in ripening. Not until long after Moorish culture had sunk back into darkness did the giant to which it had given birth, rise in his might. It was not science only which brought Europe back to life. Other and manifold influences from the civilization of Islam communicated its first glow to European life."[82]

George Sarton wrote in the Introduction to the History of Science:

"The main, as well as the least obvious, achievement of the Middle Ages was the creation of the experimental spirit and this was primarily due to the Muslims down to the 12th century."[83]

Oliver Joseph Lodge wrote in the Pioneers of Science:

"The only effective link between the old and the new science is afforded by the Arabs. The dark ages come as an utter gap in the scientific history of Europe, and for more than a thousand years there was not a scientific man of note except in Arabia."[84]

It is known that the Copernican heliocentric model in Nicolaus Copernicus' De revolutionibus was adapted from the geocentric model of Ibn al-Shatir and the Maragha school (including the Tusi-couple) in a heliocentric context,[29] and that his arguments for the Earth's rotation were similar to those of Nasīr al-Dīn al-Tūsī and Ali al-Qushji.[27]

Pulmonary circulation was first discovered and published by Ibn Nafis in his Commentary on Anatomy in Avicenna's Canon (1242), for which he is considered the father of circulatory physiology.[1] It was later published by Michael Servetus in Christianismi Restitutio (1553). Since it was a theology work condemned by most of the Christian factions of his time, the discovery remained mostly unknown until the dissections of William Harvey in 1616.
Ibn Tufail's Hayy ibn Yaqdhan was translated into Latin by Edward Pococke in 1671 and into English by Simon Ockley in 1708 and became "one of the most important books that heralded the Scientific Revolution."[
Ibn Khaldun (1332-1406), considered a father of sociology and the social sciences, made significant contributions to social psychology in his Muqaddimah (Prolegomena).
Father of modern medicine is Avicenna he him self a Muslim
The Guinness Book of World Records recognizes the University of Al Karaouine in Fez, Morocco as the oldest university in the world with its founding in 859
if you want to know more i will full this thread with science and islam :frown: :frown: :frown:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventions_in_the_modern_Islamic_world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventions_in_the_Muslim_world
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventions_in_the_Islamic_world
[URL="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventions_in_medieval_Islam"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Inventions_in_medieval_Islam[/URL]


Nevermind there being counter arguments for most of your claims, but what do these inventions have to do with Islam itself, aside from the people being Muslims? So what is the connection between Islam and the above mentioned findings?
 

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  • It is known that the Copernican heliocentric model in Nicolaus Copernicus' De revolutionibus was adapted from the geocentric model of Ibn al-Shatir and the Maragha school (including the Tusi-couple) in a heliocentric context,[29] and that his arguments for the Earth's rotation were similar to those of Nasīr al-Dīn al-Tūsī and Ali al-Qushji.[27]
    Another big big lie.
    This man first described it by Mathematics,and he lived 120 years before the desert robber.

    180px-2064_aryabhata-crp.jpg


    Aryabhata (476–550), in his magnum opus Aryabhatiya, propounded a computational system based on a planetary model in which the Earth was taken to be spinning on its axis and the periods of the planets were given with respect to the Sun. Some have interpreted this to be a heliocentric model,[18][19][20] but this view has been disputed by others.[21][22][23] He was also the first to discover that the light from the Moon and the planets was reflected from the Sun, and that the planets follow elliptical orbits, on which he accurately calculated many astronomical constants, such as the periods of the planets, times of the solar and lunar eclipses, and the instantaneous motion of the Moon (expressed as a differential equation).[2][6][24][10] Early followers of Aryabhata's model included Varahamihira, Brahmagupta, and Bhaskara II. Arabic translations of Aryabhata's Aryabhatiya were available from the 8th century, while Latin translations were available from the 13th century, before Copernicus had written De revolutionibus orbium coelestium, so it is possible that Aryabhata's work had an influence on Copernicus' ideas.

    Source
     

    sirajstc

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    Wal Bada said:
    Another big big lie.
    This man first described it by Mathematics,and he lived 120 years before the desert robber.

    180px-2064_aryabhata-crp.jpg


    Aryabhata (476–550), in his magnum opus Aryabhatiya, propounded a computational system based on a planetary model in which the Earth was taken to be spinning on its axis and the periods of the planets were given with respect to the Sun. Some have interpreted this to be a heliocentric model,[18][19][20] but this view has been disputed by others.[21][22][23] He was also the first to discover that the light from the Moon and the planets was reflected from the Sun, and that the planets follow elliptical orbits, on which he accurately calculated many astronomical constants, such as the periods of the planets, times of the solar and lunar eclipses, and the instantaneous motion of the Moon (expressed as a differential equation).[2][6][24][10] Early followers of Aryabhata's model included Varahamihira, Brahmagupta, and Bhaskara II. Arabic translations of Aryabhata's Aryabhatiya were available from the 8th century, while Latin translations were available from the 13th century, before Copernicus had written De revolutionibus orbium coelestium, so it is possible that Aryabhata's work had an influence on Copernicus' ideas.

    Source


    ubata vena vedama nedda ban:P:P:P
     

    Wal Bada

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  • "The only effective link between the old and the new science is afforded by the Arabs. The dark ages come as an utter gap in the scientific history of Europe, and for more than a thousand years there was not a scientific man of note except in Arabia."[84]
    By that time Chinese have invented gun powder, porcelain, silk, the calendar, the lift, chain-tunnel (water pump) and thousands more inventions, while muslims wre robbing nearby countries. It's luck that they have not invaded China, or there have been a genocide of Muslims, with their superioe technology
     

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    sirajstc said:
    ubata vena vedama nedda ban:P:P:P

    Why don't you ask that from your pal saharaz? He's the one who spews shit all over the religion forum in his abundant spare time, and well, someone's gotta clean it ;)
     

    Wal Bada

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  • The Guinness Book of World Records recognizes the University of Al Karaouine in Fez, Morocco as the oldest university in the world with its founding in 859
    Another fucking lie. Nalanda is the oldest university whatever Guiness book says. Read here!. 700 - 1200 years older than your Muslim one. Then comes Abhayagiri complex, 2nd century AD.

    You are an EPIC FAIL.
     

    sirajstc

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    nadeeshaF said:
    Why don't you ask that from your pal saharaz? He's the one who spews shit all over the religion forum in his abundant spare time, and well, someone's gotta clean it ;)


    i already told but ahanne ne ..ogallan reply karanne netuwa inna eeta passe portah reply karanne netiwei;):Dok bye tc
     

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    POLYGAMY
    Question:

    Why is a man allowed to have more than one wife in Islam? i.e. why is
    polygamy allowed in Islam?


    Answer:

    1. Definition of Polygamy
    Polygamy means a system of marriage whereby one person has more than one spouse. Polygamy can be of two types. One is polygyny where a man marries more than one woman, and the other is polyandry, where a woman marries more than one man. In Islam, limited polygyny is permitted; whereas polyandry is completely prohibited.Now coming to the original question, why is a man allowed to have more than one wife?

    2. The Qur’an is the only religious scripture in the world that says,
    “marry only one”.

    The Qur’an is the only religious book, on the face of this earth, that contains the phrase ‘marry only one’. There is no other religious book that instructs men to have only one wife. In none of the other religious scriptures, whether it be the
    Vedas, the Ramayan, the Mahabharat, the Geeta, the Talmud or the Bible does one find a restriction on the number of wives. According to these scriptures one can marry as many as one wishes. It was only later, that the Hindu priests and the Christian Church restricted the number of wives to one. Many Hindu religious personalities, according to their scriptures, had multiple wives. King Dashrat, the father of Rama, had more than one wife. Krishna had several wives. In earlier times, Christian men were permitted as many wives as they wished, since the Bible puts no restriction on the number of wives. It was only a few centuries ago that the Church restricted the number of wives to one. Polygyny is permitted in Judaism. According to Talmudic law, braham had three wives, and Solomon had hundreds of wives. The practice of polygyny continued till Rabbi Gershom ben Yehudah (960 C.E to 1030 C.E) issued an edict against it. The Jewish Sephardic communities living in Muslim countries continued the practice till as late as 1950, until an Act of the Chief Rabbinate of Israel extended the ban on marrying more than one wife. (*Interesting Note:- As per the 1975 census of India Hindus are more polygynous than Muslims. The report of the ‘Committee of The Status of Woman in Islam’, published in 1975 mentions on page numbers 66 and 67 that the percentage of polygamous arriages between the years 1951 and 1961 was 5.06% among the Hindus and only 4.31% among the Muslims. According to Indian law only Muslim men are permitted to have more than one wife. It is illegal for any non-Muslim in India to have more than one wife. Despite it being illegal, Hindus have more multiple wives as compared to Muslims. Earlier, there was no restriction even on Hindu men with respect to the number of wives allowed. It was only in 1954, when the Hindu Marriage Act was passed that it became illegal for a Hindu to have more than one wife. At present it is the Indian Law that restricts a Hindu man from having more than one wife and not the Hindu scriptures.) Let us now analyse why Islam allows a man to have more than one wife.

    3. Qur’an permits limited polygyny

    As I mentioned earlier, Qur’an is the only religious book on the face of the earth that says ‘marry only one’. The context of this phrase is the following verse from Surah Nisa of the Glorious Qur’an:

    “Marry women of your choice, two, or three, or four; but if ye fear that ye shall not be able to deal justly (with them), then only one.” [Al-Qur’an 4:3]

    Before the Qur’an was revealed, there was no upper limit for polygyny and many men had scores of wives, some even hundreds. Islam put an upper limit of four wives. Islam gives a man permission to marry two, three or four women, only on the condition that he deals justly with them.In the same chapter i.e. Surah Nisa verse 129 says:

    “Ye are never able to be fair and just as between women....” [Al-Qur’an 4:129]

    Therefore polygyny is not a rule but an exception. Many people are under the misconception that it is compulsory for a Muslim man to have more than one wife. Broadly, Islam has five categories of Do’s and Don’ts:

    (i) ‘Fard’ i.e. compulsory or obligatory
    (ii) ‘Mustahab’ i.e. recommended or encouraged
    (iii) ‘Mubah’ i.e. permissible or allowed
    (iv) ‘Makruh’ i.e. not recommended or discouraged
    (v) ‘Haraam’ i.e. prohibited or forbidden

    Polygyny falls in the middle category of things that are permissible. It cannot be said that a Muslim who has two, three or four wives is a better Muslim as compared to a Muslim who has only one wife.

    4. Average life span of females is more than that of males

    By nature males and females are born in approximately the same ratio. A female child has more immunity than a male child. A female child can fight the germs and diseases better than the male child. For this reason, during the pediatric age itself there are more deaths among males as compared to the females. During wars, there are more men killed as compared to women. More men die due to accidents and diseases than women. The average life span of females is more than that of males, and at any given time one finds more widows in the world than widowers.

    5. World female population is more than male population

    In the USA, women outnumber men by 7.8 million. New York alone has one million more females as compared to the number of males, and of the male population of New York one-third are gays i.e sodomites. The U.S.A as a whole has more than twenty-five million gays. This means that these people do not wish to marry women. Great Britain has four million more females as compared to males. Germany has five million more females as compared to males. Russia has nine million more females than males. God alone knows how many million more females there are in the whole world as compared to males.

    6. Restricting each and every man to have only one wife is not practical

    Even if every man got married to one woman, there would still be more than thirty million females in U.S.A who would not be able to get husbands (considering that America has twenty five million gays). There would be more than four million females in Great Britain, 5 million females in Germany and nine million females in Russia alone who would not be able to find a husband.Suppose my sister happens to be one of the unmarried women living in USA, or suppose your sister happens to be one of the unmarried women in USA. The only two options remaining for her are that she either marries a man who already has a wife or becomes 'public property'. There is no other option. All those who are modest will opt for the first.

    Most women would nto like to share their husband with other women. But in Islam when the situation deems it really neccessary Muslim women in due faith could bear a small personal loss to prevent a greater loss of letting other Muslim sisters becoming 'public properties'.

    7. Marring a married man preferable to becoming 'public property'

    In Western society, it is common for a man to have mistresses and/or multiple extra-marital affairs, in which case, the woman leads a disgraceful, unprotected life. The same society, however, cannot accept a man having more than one wife, in which women retain their honourable, dignified position in society and lead a protected life.Thus the only two options before a woman who cannot find a husband is to marry a married man or to become 'public property'. Islam prefers giving women the honourable position by permitting the first option and disallowing the second.There are several other reasons, why Islam has permitted limited polygyny, but it is mainly to protect the modesty of women.

    2. POLYANDRY

    Question:

    If a man is allowed to have more than one wife, then why does Islam prohibit a woman from having more than one husband?

    Answer:

    A lot of people, including some Muslims, question the logic of allowing Muslim men to have more than one spouse while denying the same ‘right’ to women.Let me first state emphatically, that the foundation of an Islamic society is justice
    and equity. Allah has created men and women as equal, but with different capabilities and different responsibilities. Men and women are different, physiologically and psychologically. Their roles and responsibilities are different. Men and women are equal in Islam, but not identical. Surah Nisa’ Chapter 4 verses 22 to 24 gives the list of women with whom Muslim men can not marry. It is further mentioned in Surah Nisa’ Chapter 4 verse 24 “Also (prohibited are) women already married”

    The following points enumerate the reasons why polyandry is prohibited in Islam:

    1. If a man has more than one wife, the parents of the children born of such marriages can easily be identified. The father as well as the mother can easily be identified. In case of a woman marrying more than one husband, only the mother of the children born of such marriages will be identified and not the father. Islam gives tremendous importance to the identification of both parents, mother and father. Psychologists tell us that children who do not know their parents, especially their father undergo severe mental trauma and disturbances. Often they have an unhappy childhood. It is for this reason that the children of prostitutes do not have a healthy childhood.
    If a child born of such wedlock is admitted in school, and when the mother is asked the name of the father, she would have to give two or more names! I am aware that recent advances in science have made it possible for both the mother and father to be identified with the help of genetic testing. Thus this point which was applicable for the past may not be applicable for the present.
    2. Man is more polygamous by nature as compared to a woman.
    3. Biologically, it is easier for a man to perform his duties as a husband despite having several wives. A woman, in a similar position, having several husbands, will not find it possible to perform her duties as a wife. A woman undergoes several psychological and behavioral changes due to different phases of the menstrual cycle.
    4. A woman who has more than one husband will have several sexual partners at the same time and has a high chance of acquiring venereal or sexually transmitted diseases which can also be transmitted back to her husband even if all of them have no extra-marital sex. This is not the case in a man having more than one wife, and none of them having extra-marital
    sex.

    The above reasons are those that one can easily identify. There are probably many more reasons why Allah, in His Infinite Wisdom, has prohibited polyandry.

    Kanna one nam Kabaragoyath Thalagoya karagena Kaamata Haka:lol: :lol: :lol:
     

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    saharaz said:
    for your kind info Islam is not a Culture but it is a Religion for all human kind


    EXACTLY.. I MEANT THE RELIGION AND THE CULTURE,.
    Please, dont get nonsens points and dont try 2 argue coz of those :lol:

    Ok well, may be that is a religoon for all human kind.. butt.???
    the way your islam. extremists are behavin currently.. well bro, i don't thnk their ideas are based on soo humanistic concepts :rolleyes:

    saharaz said:
    I told you before Islam is a religion of peace there are very few so alled muslims who doesn't know what are the fundements in Islam is being indulge in cruelty. Allah Almighty and His Prophet said not take others soul unjustly but few socalled muslims who deosn't know what is the fundement of of islam killing innocence which is not accepted in islam. becoz of few so called muslims you can't blame on total muslim world and islam. if you want to know islam check Glorious Al Quran and the and the following the sunnah ( ACTIONS , WORDS AND THE APPROVALS OF MY BELOVED PROPHET ).



    I don't wanna blame the total muslim world.. but just tell me the excuses you people can find to justify the humanless acts done by your authorities.. :rolleyes:

    Well, if you are also against them.. good :rolleyes:




    saharaz said:
    polygyny it is not a rule in Islam but it is a exception . being a muslim personaly i rather prefer my son in law is having 2 wives legally than my son in law is having many wife illegally .... in islam you can't have more 4 wives



    Well ok... why are you becoming so selfish? You people are thinking only about your advantajz and u have the control over women!! Do they have the right to say "NO"? Well, i guess thy don't.
    Anyway, the so called woman is not an object you can use and reject when and where you do want.. Because that is also a human beeing. jus try 2 thnk if the poligamy is conceptually right!
    Do those women like their husbands having 4 other wives? :rolleyes...



    saharaz said:
    if you don't mind can you give me the chapter number and the verse number of that particular statement that father can kill her daugter story ............


    Brother, read again.. I asked a question!!! I DO know exactly that the Koran does not talk about such a thing, but these cases are real facts which are happening in the world, not in anotha universe..


    saharaz said:
    it is very clear that your media, your parents and elders, your teachers and your total environment is portraiting islam in negative way by putting false information like you mention above.. please if you want to know the truth study the Glorious Al Quran by yourself

    Don't worry, 1st.. get the point, then talk ;)
    well, lot of people are talking based on the media and bla bla
    But just tell me.. Executions.. stonned girls.. etc etc..
    Are these unknown things?????
    And the islam authorities and governments.. Do they agree?'???


    What would u tell me abt the executions.. specially minors executions.??
    How can you justify that?

    saharaz said:
    executing minors and insane are prohibitted in islam nowhere in the Al Quran Or Al hadeeth it says execute minors and insane ...... but when it comes to an adult he/she himself/herself should accept his sin voluntarily for their sin which she has committed then only a islamic government can execute the person. it is very rare a person volunterily accept execution due to his poor faith. personaly i will not accept the executions are done by some organization or groups execution should be done by a islamic country. secondly this execution rule in islam is not for non-muslims it is for muslims.

    All right.. I doo see.. ok..
    but, is it right that a girl is executed coz of adultery?
    The girl Atefeh, was executed in 2004, when she ws only 16 years old. The court lied, saying she was 20 + and her fault?
    She was raped... by a man of 40 +

    The governments are coverin evrythn up.. and hidin all these cases...
    Stonning, killing in those cruel ways... Is that right?
    As i understand , You are conz that. Goood
     
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    Nevermind there being counter arguments for most of your claims, but what do these inventions have to do with Islam itself, aside from the people being Muslims? So what is the connection between Islam and the above mentioned findings?

    This is all started by Eranda200, go to the page number # 3 you will find. Check below that he says

    they dont knw any better. science is prohibited 2 question their lives... i dont understnd why..



    that’s why I remind him the bitter fact that Muslims the Pioneers of modern Science …….. at the time when I say that Muslims are pioneers of Modern Science the people who doesn’t know the blacked out history of modern science start mocking my statement. Including you and other anti Islamic brothers and sister in EK I don’t want to name them Ek members already aware about them. For that reason only I gave you all the proofs / evidences from Non-Muslim scholars and Non-Islamic Website. If you want more proofs / evidences I will give you hundreds and thousands Inshallah ….

    further more he said page number # 7

    Christians, Yankees and Europeans made real changes in the field of science.

    Bullshit … Eranda200 doesn’t know that from 8th to 16th century Islamic World with polymaths, travelers, adventurers, artists, engineers, scholars, poets, philosophers, geographers and traders and Eranda200 doesn’t know that on the 8th century Muslim contribution to the arts, agriculture, economics, industry, law, literature, navigation, philosophy, sciences, sociology, and technology both by preserving and building upon earlier traditions and by adding inventions and innovations of their own.[5] 8th century there was no AMERICA / YANKEE (In 1492, Genoese explorer Christopher Columbus, reached several Caribbean islands) on the other hand EUROP in it’s DARK AGES ….. in spite of all Eranda200 said …..

    Christians, Yankees and Europeans made real changes in the field of science.

    BULLSHIT ……….

    Howard R. Turner writes: "Muslim artists and scientists, princes and labourers together made a unique culture that has directly and indirectly influenced societies on every continent."[5]

    A number of modern scholars such as Fielding H. Garrison,[12] Bertrand Russell,[13] consider modern science and the scientific method to have been greatly influenced by Muslim scientists who introduced a modern empirical, experimental and quantitative approach to scientific inquiry. Some scholars, notably Donald Routledge Hill, and George Saliba,[16] have referred to their achievements as a Muslim scientific revolution,[17][18] though this does not contradict the traditional view of the Scientific Revolution which is still supported by most scholars.[19][20][21

    SOURCE : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_and_science#cite_note-0

    I hope you all understand the Islamand Muslims contribution to Modern Science ………
     

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    Wal Bada said:
    By that time Chinese have invented gun powder, porcelain, silk, the calendar, the lift, chain-tunnel (water pump) and thousands more inventions, while muslims wre robbing nearby countries. It's luck that they have not invaded China, or there have been a genocide of Muslims, with their superioe technology

    "The only effective link between the old and the new science is afforded by the Arabs. The dark ages come as an utter gap in the scientific history of Europe, and for more than a thousand years there was not a scientific man of note except in Arabia."[84]

    It was said by not me ……… it was said by Oliver Joseph Lodge wrote in the Pioneers of Science:

     

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    Wal Bada said:
    Another rotten lie. Hippocates is. read here!

    Walbadooo I checked your source it says

    Hippocratic is referred to as the "father of medicine" in recognition of his lasting contributions to the field as the founder of the Hippocratic school of medicine.

    Source read here!

    I agree with you Hippocratic as father of medicine…….

    I didn’t say that Avicenna is father of medicine …. Walbadooo are you blind or what ???????? check my statement all I said was Avicenna is FATHER OF MODERN MEDICINE . also I want to add one more thing that is Avicenna is also THE FATHER OF FUNDAMENTAL CONCEPT OF MOMENTUM IN PHYSICS. Check below statement and the source…
    Ibn Sīnā is regarded as a father of early modern medicine,[18][19] and clinical pharmacology[20] particularly for his introduction of systematic experimentation and quantification into the study of physiology,[21] his discovery of the contagious nature of infectious diseases,[22] the introduction of quarantine to limit the spread of contagious diseases, the introduction of experimental medicine, evidence-based medicine, clinical trials,[23] randomized controlled trials,[24][25] efficacy tests,[26][27] clinical pharmacology,[28] neuropsychiatry,[29] risk factor analysis, and the idea of a syndrome,[30] and the importance of dietetics and the influence of climate and environment on health.[31] He is also considered the father of the fundamental concept of momentum in physics,[32] and regarded as a pioneer of aromatherapy for his invention of steam distillation and extraction of essential oils.[33] He also developed the concept of uniformitarianism and law of superposition in geology.[34]

    George Sarton, an author of the history of science, wrote in the Introduction to the History of Science:
    "One of the most famous exponents of Muslim universalism and an eminent figure in Islamic learning was Ibn Sina, known in the West as Avicenna (981-1037). For a thousand years he has retained his original renown as one of the greatest thinkers and medical scholars in history. His most important medical works are the Qanun (Canon) and a treatise on Cardiac drugs. The 'Qanun

    fi-l-Tibb
    ' is an immense encyclopedia of medicine. It contains some of the most illuminating thoughts pertaining to distinction of mediastinitis from pleurisy; contagious nature of phthisis; distribution of diseases by water and soil; careful description of skin troubles; of sexual diseases and perversions; of nervous ailments."[22]
    Source : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avicenna

    WALBADOO READ PROPERLY BEFORE REPLY ………. FATHER OF MEDICINE AND THE FATHER OF MODERN MEDICINE IS TWO DIFFERENT THINGS………
     

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    hey cmon... u guys makin this place full or racism.... for people who dont like it like nadeeshaF etc just leave it rather than criticizing and creating racism in this nice place.. its just info.. let it go to the ones intended to..