ජේසුස් වහන්සේ කියන්නේ බුද්ධ ශ්‍රාවකයෙක්.

[KasunKDP]

"When the mind was thus concentrated, purified, bright, unblemished, rid of defilement, pliant, malleable, steady, & attained to imperturbability, I directed it to the knowledge of recollecting my past lives. I recollected my manifold past lives, i.e., one birth, two... five, ten... fifty, a hundred, a thousand, a hundred thousand, many eons of cosmic contraction, many eons of cosmic expansion, many eons of cosmic contraction & expansion."

Link:
https://suttacentral.net/si/mn36

“ඒ මම මෙසේ හිත සමාධියෙන් එකඟවූ කල්හි, පිරිසිදුවූකල්හි (පිරිසිදු හෙයින්ම) දීප්තිමත්වූ කල්හි අංගන (රාගාදී කෙලෙස්) රහිතවූ කල්හි, පහවූ උවදුරු ඇති කල්හි, මෘදුවූ කල්හි, කටයුත්තට සුදුසුව සිටි කල්හි සිත ස්ථිරවූ කල්හි පෙර ජාති දැනීමේ ඤාණය පිණිස සිත නැමුයෙමි. ඒ මම නොයෙක් ආකාරවූ පූර්වෙනිවාසය (පෙර උපන් ජාති,) සිහිකරමි. එනම් එක් ජාතියක්ද, ජාති දෙකක්ද, ජාති තුනක්ද, ජාති සතරක්ද, ජාති පහක්ද, ජාති දශයක්ද, ජාති විස්සක්ද, ජාති තිසක්ද, ජාති සතළිසක්ද, ජාති පණසක්ද, ජාති සියයක්ද, ජාති දහසක්ද, ජාති ලක්ෂයක්ද, නොයෙක් සංවර්ත කල්පයන්ද, නොයෙක් විවර්ත කල්පයන්ද, නොයෙක් සංවර්ත විවර්ත කල්පයන්ද අසුවල් තැන උපන්නෙමි, එහිදී මේ නම් ඇත්තේ වීමි, මෙබඳු ගොත්‍ර ඇත්තේ වීමි. මෙබඳු වර්ණ ඇත්තේවීමි. මෙබඳු ආහාර ඇත්තේවීමි. මෙබඳු දුක් සැප වින්දෙමි. ඒ මම එයින් චුතව අසුවල් තැන උපන්නෙමි. එතැන්හිද මෙසේ නම් ඇත්තේ වීමි. මෙබඳු ගොත්‍ර ඇත්තේ වීමි. මෙබඳු ශරීර වර්ණ ඇත්තේ වීමි. මෙබඳු ආහාර ඇත්තේ වීමි. මෙබඳු සැප දුක් වින්දේ වීමි. මෙබඳු ආයුෂ ඇත්තේ වීමි. ඒ මම එතැනින් චුතව මෙහි උපන්නෙමි’යි මෙසේ ආකාර සහිතවූ, දැක්වීම් සහිතවූ, නොයෙක් ආකාරවූ, පෙර විසූ කඳ පිළිවෙළ සිහි කරමි."

thats the Samaññaphala Sutta right.?
impressive, but there could be ambiguities in translation..
on some forums they say the word 'cosmic' isnt really the translated english word..

another thing is, what does cosmic contraction & expansion means.? dosent make any sense.. its either expand or contract... both doesn't happen simultaniously

 

[drspresents]

thats the Samaññaphala Sutta right.?
impressive, but there could be ambiguities in translation..
on some forums they say the word 'cosmic' isnt really the translated english word..

another thing is, what does cosmic contraction & expansion means.? dosent make any sense.. its either expand or contract... both doesn't happen simultaniously

I don't think it happens simultaneously. I think it means a series of expansion and contraction.

 

[KasunKDP]

I don't think it happens simultaneously. I think it means a series of expansion and contraction.

i dont think so..

it clearly implies it happens simultaneously...

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[drspresents]

i dont think so..

it clearly implies it happens simultaneously...

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Nope. It says many contraction and expansion eons. That is the shortened form. We have to get the correct idea out from that. Because most of Buddhas teachings are in shortened form. But if you search through the Tripitaka, you can find the detailed explanations.

 

[KasunKDP]

Nope. It says many contraction and expansion eons. That is the shortened form. We have to get the correct idea out from that. Because most of Buddhas teachings are in shortened form. But if you search through the Tripitaka, you can find the detailed explanations.

many eons of cosmic contraction, many eons of cosmic expansion, many eons of cosmic contraction & expansion

then this full phase dosent make sense...

he coul've just said,

many eons of cosmic contraction & expansion

u see my point.?

 

[drspresents]

many eons of cosmic contraction, many eons of cosmic expansion, many eons of cosmic contraction & expansion

then this full phase dosent make sense...

he coul've just said,

many eons of cosmic contraction & expansion

u see my point.?

It should be like many eons of cosmic contraction, many eons of cosmic expansion, many eons of cosmic contraction, many eons of cosmic expansion and so on.

 

[drspresents]

රෑ වැඩියි බන් ඕවට උත්තර දෙන්න උදේට අපේ සක්ර්දගාමී උත්තමයා ඇවිත් පිළිතුරු ලබා දෙයි එතකම් ඉවසපන්

 

[KasunKDP]

It should be like many eons of cosmic contraction, many eons of cosmic expansion, many eons of cosmic contraction, many eons of cosmic expansion and so on.

No.. not convincing enough.
u just trying to interpret it the way u want to..

 

[drspresents]

ඇත නැත අන්ත ගැන සැක ඇති අය මේක අහන්න:

https://youtu.be/IGZOf8gwc6E?t=3991

 

[drspresents]

No.. not convincing enough.
u just trying to interpret it the way u want to..

What is your interpretation about this???

 

[drspresents]

Jesus wahanse uttana wuna kiyala kiyanawane
Eyala kiyanne ayet ipaduna kiyalane

Kenekta hondata gahala, ana gahala tibbama merenne nehe ne
Wenne kalanthi dala inna eka...
Etakota rewunama, kattiyaka awith kuruse bima daala, ena galawala Jesus wahansewa geniyanawa
Genihin sattu karala goda dagannawa
Hebai eyata ehema inna eka araksha sahita nathi nisa eya ratin palayanawa aparadigata.

Eya yanne indiawata.
ehema gihin India we tibuna dewal igena gannawa, budu dahamath igena gannawa
Hari de dakinawa...
Marunata passe diwyaloketa yanawa
Denatath Jesus wahanse marunata passe waladapu tenak kiyana stanayak India we uturu palataka tiyenawa lu....

Etakota meka prabandayak wennat puluwan anumanayak wennath puluwan....

 

[akshalikas]

හැමෝම නිවන් දැකලා ඉවර වෙන දවසක් නැද්ද

 

[drspresents]

හැමෝම නිවන් දැකලා ඉවර වෙන දවසක් නැද්ද

එහෙම දවසක් ගැන කියන්නේ නෑ. අතීතයෙත් සත්වයින් හිටියා, බුදුවරු ලක්ෂ ගණන් බිහිවුණා. අනාගතයෙත් සත්වයින් ඉන්නවා, බුදුවරු ලක්ෂ ගණන් බිහිවෙනවා. ඇත්තටම කිව්වොත් මේ ලෝකයේ මෙතෙක් පහල වූ බුදුවරු ගණන මෙතෙකැයි කියලා සීමා කරන්න බෑ. අනාගතයෙත් එහෙමයි.

 

[drspresents]

What is your interpretation about this???

No idea?

 

[KasunKDP]

No idea?

its too long.?

whats it about.?

 

[drspresents]

its too long.?

whats it about.?

Explanation of the world end and recreation is given in Tripitaka. Buddha explained about the universe and it's galaxies and stuff too.

There are fore main time periods. Each time period is extremely long. During the first time period, the universe is created. During the second time period, the universe remains stable. This is the time period in which the beings live in this universe. During the third time period, the universe is destroyed. And the final time period is the time period in which there is nothing (universe is destroyed). After this time period, the universe will start to recreate and the same cycle will continue forever creating and destroying the universe.

 

[KasunKDP]

Explanation of the world end and recreation is given in Tripitaka. Buddha explained about the universe and it's galaxies and stuff too.

There are fore main time periods. Each time period is extremely long. During the first time period, the universe is created. During the second time period, the universe remains stable. This is the time period in which the beings live in this universe. During the third time period, the universe is destroyed. And the final time period is the time period in which there is nothing (universe is destroyed). After this time period, the universe will start to recreate and the same cycle will continue forever creating and destroying the universe.

well thats vaguely parallel with current scientific understanding.
one theory is that universe going to end up in big freeze... if that happen there is no way a new universe can be created , unless through quantum tunneling but that has very small probability.

Anyway how Buddha able to came this close to current scientific theory is quite astonishing. i will look at the video too.

 

[drspresents]

well thats vaguely parallel with current scientific understanding.
one theory is that universe going to end up in big freeze... if that happen there is no way a new universe can be created , unless through quantum tunneling but that has very small probability.

Anyway how Buddha able to came this close to current scientific theory is quite astonishing. i will look at the video too.

That's exactly what I was trying to explain all these days.

 

[KasunKDP]

That's exactly what I was trying to explain all these days.

you have to understand that Im not 100% agreeing with you. Buddhas knowledge was astonishing( even thought he inherited most of them from already existed eastern knowledge). But his knowledge was not perfect by any means... just astonishing compared to contemporary philosophers.

 

[drspresents]

you have to understand that Im not 100% agreeing with you. Buddhas knowledge was astonishing( even thought he inherited most of them from already existed eastern knowledge). But his knowledge was not perfect by any means... just astonishing compared to contemporary philosophers.

"But his knowledge was not perfect by any means"
How do you say his knowledge is not perfect?