සොතාපත්ති ඵල සූත්‍රය

[ek_rosh]

That's when you know for a fact that the glass is full .
If the glass is already full, I don't see the reason to change the path and look for other ways to fill the glass.

i get that. as you said before when you realized your questions are flawed and there are an underlying problem and the solution, your glass is full.

my question was when you would know this glass is not filling up with the current path, so you have to find another?

 

[Emios]

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@Blair Solari ube favorite hamduruwo ewilla


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[nuwan9999]

i get that. as you said before when you realized your questions are flawed and there are an underlying problem and the solution, your glass is full.

my question was when you would know this glass is not filling up with the current path, so you have to find another?

Ah! that's a good question.

It’s like being lost in the middle of the ocean, incredibly thirsty, and having no idea that saltwater is bad for you. You scoop up a handful to drink, and for a split second, you feel relieved, but then the thirst comes back ten times worse. You figure it must just be that specific spot in the water, so you row your boat a little further, try again, and get the exact same result. Still, you keep going. Eventually, you hit land. You spot a waterfall in the distance, run up to it, and take a drink. Instantly, you feel the difference. You drink more and more, It's refreshing, it's real, and finally, your thirst is actually quenched.

Surely its not as dramatic as this but I guess you get the point.

 

[Blair Solari]

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@Blair Solari ube favorite hamduruwo ewilla


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බැලුවද වැඩසටහන?

 

[Emios]

බැලුවද වැඩසටහන?

balanna one re wela

 

[ek_rosh]

Ah! that's a good question.

It’s like being lost in the middle of the ocean, incredibly thirsty, and having no idea that saltwater is bad for you. You scoop up a handful to drink, and for a split second, you feel relieved, but then the thirst comes back ten times worse. You figure it must just be that specific spot in the water, so you row your boat a little further, try again, and get the exact same result. Still, you keep going. Eventually, you hit land. You spot a waterfall in the distance, run up to it, and take a drink. Instantly, you feel the difference. You drink more and more, It's refreshing, it's real, and finally, your thirst is actually quenched.

Surely its not as dramatic as this but I guess you get the point.

ok, so you identify (in this example)

wrong path: you feel relieved for a moment but thurst comes back 10 time worse

correct path: you feel the difference instantly, it is refreshing

ok, get the example. and how does this relate in dhamma search?

what is feel relieved?
what is thrust coming back 10 times?
what difference you feel instantly?
what/how is refreshing?

better if you can explain using the real/dhamma terms... not with a metaphor/example. Coz, i dont know what you intended for me to understand from each term of the example. That will add more complexity.

 

[nuwan9999]

ok, so you identify (in this example)

wrong path: you feel relieved for a moment but thurst comes back 10 time worse

correct path: you feel the difference instantly, it is refreshing

ok, get the example. and how does this relate in dhamma search?

what is feel relieved?
what is thrust coming back 10 times?
what difference you feel instantly?
what/how is refreshing?

better if you can explain using the real/dhamma terms... not with a metaphor/example. Coz, i dont know what you intended for me to understand from each term of the example. That will add more complexity.

I’m not entirely sure how to frame these in strict dhamma terminology, since I’ve only been seriously following dhamma for about 4–5 years and my understanding of the technical terms is still developing. For example, in the early days I even thought panchaskandha referred to the five physical senses, that’s how limited my knowledge was.

Here’s how I interpret your questions:

Relieved: A sense of satisfaction that comes from realising something through dhamma, that moment when a piece of understanding clicks.

Thrust coming back 10 times: When listening to certain dhamma explanations, they initially seem to make sense. But later, when I reflect on them, they create more questions or inconsistencies, and some parts I simply don’t understand at all.

Instant difference: These teachings feel very different from the dhamma talks I used to listen to. Those were usually about isolated topics; e.g., what panchaskandha is, or what satta bojjanga means, and you just memorise the information. There was no bigger picture. But with this dhamma, you hear something and suddenly a whole path appears. You follow it and it leads you to a solid central understanding. It’s like being a caterpillar placed on a leaf of a huge tree: you walk to the centre of the leaf, then to the stem, then to a branch, then to a bigger branch, and eventually you reach the main trunk, no matter which leaf you start from.

Refreshing: The more you listen and reflect, the lighter and more liberated you feel.

 

[Gunther]

සොතාපත්ති ඵල සූත්‍රය​

Meka inna ekek hari sirawata meka windala thiye da?

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@Blair Solari ube favorite hamduruwo ewilla


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Me issara 180 set eke hitapu Eranga neda. A kaaleth mahayana buddhism gana sahena katha kala
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බැලුවද වැඩසටහන?

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[Blair Solari]

Meka inna ekek hari sirawata *meka* windala thiye da?

"මේක" කියලා අදහස් කරන්නේ සෝතාපන්න වෙලාද කියලද?

 

[Gunther]

"මේක" කියලා අදහස් කරන්නේ සෝතාපන්න වෙලාද කියලද?

Ow ow.

( sowan unama “kenek” na kiyanna epooo )

 

[Blair Solari]

Ow ow.

( sowan unama “kenek” na kiyanna epooo )

මන් හිතන් ඉන්නවා එහෙම. ඒකනේ මට ඵල ලබන්න උපනිශය වුන කියලා මන් හිතන පාත් එක අනිත් අයටත් කියන්නේ.

ඉන්ද්‍රියපරෝපරියත්ත, ආසවානුසය ඤාණ තියෙන බුදු කෙනෙක්, කෙනෙක්ට මාර්ගඵල තියෙනවා කියලා කියන දෙයක් ඇරෙන්න, අනිත් අය කියන ඒවා ඇත්ත වෙන්නත් පුලුවන් නැති වෙන්නත් පුලුවන්..

චේතෝපරීය ඤාණය ලබපු ආර්ය උතුමෙක්ට, තමන්ගේ මාර්ගඵල සිත් බලලා, තවත් ඒ මාර්ගඵලයේම හරි ඊට අඩු මාර්ගඵලයක ඉන්න ආර්ය උතුමෙක්ගේ මාර්ගඵල සිත් බලලා, ඒ අනුව කියන්න පුලුවන් කියලා දැකලා තියෙනවා.

 

[ek_rosh]

I’m not entirely sure how to frame these in strict dhamma terminology, since I’ve only been seriously following dhamma for about 4–5 years and my understanding of the technical terms is still developing. For example, in the early days I even thought panchaskandha referred to the five physical senses, that’s how limited my knowledge was.

Here’s how I interpret your questions:

Relieved: A sense of satisfaction that comes from realising something through dhamma, that moment when a piece of understanding clicks.

Thrust coming back 10 times: When listening to certain dhamma explanations, they initially seem to make sense. But later, when I reflect on them, they create more questions or inconsistencies, and some parts I simply don’t understand at all.

Instant difference: These teachings feel very different from the dhamma talks I used to listen to. Those were usually about isolated topics; e.g., what panchaskandha is, or what satta bojjanga means, and you just memorise the information. There was no bigger picture. But with this dhamma, you hear something and suddenly a whole path appears. You follow it and it leads you to a solid central understanding. It’s like being a caterpillar placed on a leaf of a huge tree: you walk to the centre of the leaf, then to the stem, then to a branch, then to a bigger branch, and eventually you reach the main trunk, no matter which leaf you start from.

Refreshing: The more you listen and reflect, the lighter and more liberated you feel.

yeah, this would make it easy to understand what you are saying. I didnt expect a technical dhamma explanation, just wanted know how you correlate the example to the dhamma..instead of putting my own interpretation to your example

"when I reflect on them" - what does this mean, reflect?

 

[ewijesekara]

up

(ඔක්කොමත් හරි ඉතිං, සප්පුරුශ සේවනය කොරන්න එකෙක් නෑ නෙව. ඕනෑ වෙලාවක බෝතලයක් උස්සන් එන සෙට් එකක් නේ ඉන්නේ, ඒ ඇවිල්ලත් කතා කොරන්නෙත් ධර්මය කියහංකෝ ඉතිම්. ඔතෙන්දි වෙන්ටැ පින කියන එක මතුවෙන්ඩ ඕන. ඒක නැහ්නං හුටා! )

 

[nuwan9999]

yeah, this would make it easy to understand what you are saying. I didnt expect a technical dhamma explanation, just wanted know how you correlate the example to the dhamma..instead of putting my own interpretation to your example

"when I reflect on them" - what does this mean, reflect?

In my opinion, "reflect" is one of the most misunderstood terms in Buddhism. In this context, it doesn't mean trying to interpret your current experience using the Dhamma (or the Thrilakshana). As you've probably gathered from these talks, doing that doesn't make sense at all because our subjective experiences are inherently flawed anyway.

Instead, "reflecting" means fundamentally shifting your perspective (or perception rather). The experience may be the trigger in this case, but it’s not about analyzing the specific experience you're having, but rather training your mind to see the underlying nature of experience itself through the Dhamma. One of the most bizarre things here is that you come to realise this way of reflection through the dhamma it self...

I'm definitely struggling to put this into words, can you tell? It's a tough concept to put into words!

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

murga sanya on the way,you will not be able to do any sathi anymore pass that if not prepared now

Please explain Murga Sanna ?

 

[Emios]

Please explain Murga Sanna ?

all humans appears to be coming to eat you.conciousness take over the illusion as of wolfs coming to eat you.

 

[ex-muslim Ahmed]

all humans appears to be coming to eat you.conciousness take over the illusion as of wolfs coming to eat you.

මොන හුලන් විස්කෝතුවක්ද ඒ කිව්වේ?
හරියට මිනිහෙක් දැනුවත් කරපන්කො ප්‍රශ්නයක් ඇහුවහම! ලින්ක් එකක්, විස්තරයක් දාපන්කෝ

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I’m not entirely sure how to frame these in strict dhamma terminology, since I’ve only been seriously following dhamma for about 4–5 years and my understanding of the technical terms is still developing. For example, in the early days I even thought panchaskandha referred to the five physical senses, that’s how limited my knowledge was.

Here’s how I interpret your questions:

Relieved: A sense of satisfaction that comes from realising something through dhamma, that moment when a piece of understanding clicks.

Thrust coming back 10 times: When listening to certain dhamma explanations, they initially seem to make sense. But later, when I reflect on them, they create more questions or inconsistencies, and some parts I simply don’t understand at all.

Instant difference: These teachings feel very different from the dhamma talks I used to listen to. Those were usually about isolated topics; e.g., what panchaskandha is, or what satta bojjanga means, and you just memorise the information. There was no bigger picture. But with this dhamma, you hear something and suddenly a whole path appears. You follow it and it leads you to a solid central understanding. It’s like being a caterpillar placed on a leaf of a huge tree: you walk to the centre of the leaf, then to the stem, then to a branch, then to a bigger branch, and eventually you reach the main trunk, no matter which leaf you start from.

Refreshing: The more you listen and reflect, the lighter and more liberated you feel.

"I assume that most contemporary religious leaders in the Buddha's era, such as Alara Kalama, arrived at a similar conclusion."
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[nuwan9999]

"I assume that most contemporary religious leaders in the Buddha's era, such as Alara Kalama, arrived at a similar conclusion."
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Possibly... who knows but this isn't a conclusion, its more of an experience through observation for me as that caterpillar walk from the leaf to the main trunk of the tree.

 

[Emios]

How many minutes did you do kayagathasathi

 

[nuwan9999]

How many minutes did you do kayagathasathi

me? 24/7