‘Vegetarianism’

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Wal Bada said:
I agree with Sri_Lions stats. That is the ultimate you can get about world health stats. You cannot challenge WHO stats with a shitty stats from a small non-recignised site.

And I have experianced, Muslims are the most obese in SL too. May be due to bad food habits, or may be due to too much of beef. We don't know the reason, but they have the highest incidence of obesity, ischemic heart disease, hypertension, diabetes and hypercholetrorelemia in SL.

I agree with Sri_Lions stats. That is the ultimate you can get about world health stats. You cannot challenge WHO stats with a shitty stats from a small non-recignised site.

you will agree not only with sri_lion also you will agree with any one who ever insult or propagate against Islam.
the next thing is the stats was given by sri_lion is just created by him it will suits people like you. he himself know that those are false information given by him. but i don't know why sri_lion is keeping quite .......

i checked his source there is no any informations with regards to Obesity of Muslim countries.

if you are calling www.nationmaster.com and the stats which i gave based on that are shitty stats from a small non-recignised site i hope you will tell the same thing for sri_lion becoz sri_lion is the first one to give a highest pork consuming country stat based on that website at that time you are silent now you call it shitty stats from a small non-recignised site

I was pointing out not only FAT

Consumption of pork causes several diseases
Pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth
Pig is the most shameless animal

Why are you tagged on FAT story ……

And I have experianced, Muslims are the most obese in SL too. May be due to bad food habits, or may be due to too much of beef. We don't know the reason, but they have the highest incidence of obesity, ischemic heart disease, hypertension, diabetes and hypercholetrorelemia in SL

can you give me the source muslims are most obese in SL ???
 

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بسم الله
Machan thanx for you kind comment and the wise questions.
Machan I swear by ALLAH we Muslims are not barbarians or cruel towards animal. Our beloved prophet Muhammed PBUH also taught compassion towards animals like lord Buddha taugh.

According to overall teachings of Islam, causing unavoidable pain and suffering to the defenseless and innocent creatures of God is not justifiable under any circumstances. Islam wants prevent not only physical cruelty also mental cruelty.

Our beloved prophet Muhammed PBUH told.

'A good deed done to a beast is as good as doing good to a human being; while an act of cruelty to a beast is as bad as an act of cruelty to human beings' and that: 'Kindness to animals was promised by rewards in Life Hereafter.' (Mishkat al-Masabih; Book 6; Chapter 7, 8:178.)

For more information: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animals_in_islam

Please check below some facts about PIG

The Qur’an prohibits the consumption of pork in no less than 4 different places. It is prohibited in 2:173, 5:3, 6:145 and 16:115. These verses of the Holy Qur’an are sufficient to satisfy a Muslim as to why pork is forbidden.

Consumption of pork causes several diseases

The other non-Muslims and atheists will agree only if convinced through reason, logic and science. Eating of pork can cause no less than seventy different types of diseases. A person can have various helminthes like roundworm, pinworm, hookworm, etc. One of the most dangerous is Taenia Solium, which is in lay man’s terminology called tapeworm. It harbours in the intestine and is very long. Its ova i.e. eggs, enter the blood stream and can reach almost all the organs of the body. If it enters the brain it can cause memory loss. If it enters the heart it can cause heart attack, if it enters the eye it can cause blindness, if it enters the liver it can cause liver damage. It can damage almost all the organs of the body. Another dangerous helminthes is Trichura Tichurasis. A common misconception about pork is that if it is cooked well, these ova die.In a research project undertaken in America, it was found that out of twenty-four people suffering from Trichura Tichurasis, twenty two had cooked the pork very well. This indicates that the ova present in the pork do not die under normal cooking temperature.

Pork has fat building material

Pork has very little muscle building material and contains excess of fat. This fat gets deposited in the vessels and can cause hypertension and heart attack. It is not surprising that over 50% of Americans suffer from hypertension.

Pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth

The pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth. It lives and thrives on muck, faces and dirt. It is the best scavenger that I know that God has produced. In the villages they don’t have modern toilets and the villagers excrete in the open air. Very often excreta is cleared by pigs.
Some may argue that in advanced countries like Australia, pigs are bred in very clean and hygienic conditions. Even in these hygienic conditions the pigs are kept together in sties. No matter how hard you try to keep them clean they are filthy by nature. They eat and enjoy their own as well as their neighbour’s excreta.

Pig is the most shameless animal

The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. In America, most people consume pork. Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; i.e. many say “you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife.” If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs.

Did you know ??????

Pork is prohibited not only in Al Quran but also in the Bible. :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked: :shocked:


Jebus, you guys are concerned about the way an animal, AN "ANIMAL" mates?
Holy hell, that's the limit right there! What's the pig gotta be ashamed of? All animals are like that, even cows. And it's legitimate for some people (supposedly on a higher plain that any animal- gotta question this) to have multiple wives? It's okay for a woman to be all ladida and fine with her husband bedding with couple other women? Eww eww, you are calling the pig shameful, well what is this then huh?

:lol: :lol:
 

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Wal Bada said:
I agree with Sri_Lions stats. That is the ultimate you can get about world health stats. You cannot challenge WHO stats with a shitty stats from a small non-recignised site.

And I have experianced, Muslims are the most obese in SL too. May be due to bad food habits, or may be due to too much of beef. We don't know the reason, but they have the highest incidence of obesity, ischemic heart disease, hypertension, diabetes and hypercholetrorelemia in SL.

Oh tell me about it, the women look like penguins on steroid:rolleyes:
Must be all those pregnancies...
 

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funkoluwa said:
how come humans are dominating this world destroys forests and building thir civilizations, making medicines from animals, coz its the way they are its common for every human, humans are the only species of its kind you cant say its wrong its all about survival its da fact, thats what Islam tells u, its practical but u hav limits

And humans are the only people that can save them too! and has the capacity to think that way too!
 

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This is my favorite part ………

As usual sri_lion played his DIRTY GAME. If you go to both charts above you will find there is no source ( he has given a link when I click on it I found there is nothing with regards to above charts) and also there is no heading for the charts he himself typed the story of Top 10 (Most Obese) and Last 10 (Least Obese)


according towww.nationmaster.comObesity by country

Rank Countries Amount (top to bottom)
#1 United States: 30.6%
#2 Mexico: 24.2%
#3 UK: 23%
#4 Slovakia: 22.4%
#5 Greece: 21.9%
#6 Australia: 21.7%
#7 New Zealand: 20.9%
#8 Hungary: 18.8%
#9 Luxembourg: 18.4%
#10 CzechRepublic: 14.8%
#11 Canada: 14.3%
#12 Spain: 13.1%
#13 Ireland: 13%
#14 Germany: 12.9%
#15 Portugal: 12.8%
#16 Finland: 12.8%
#17 Iceland: 12.4%
#18 Turkey: 12%
#19 Belgium: 11.7%
#20 Netherlands: 10%
#21 Sweden: 9.7%
#22 Denmark: 9.5%
#23 France: 9.4%
#24 Austria: 9.1%
#25 Italy: 8.5%
#26 Norway: 8.3%
#27 Switzerland: 7.7%
#28 Japan: 3.2%
#29 Korea, South: 3.2%

Source : http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/hea_obe-health-obesity


sri_lion you are a liar, a big liar. It is very clear how far ANTI-ISLAMIC thoughts are rooted inside you to show the false stats and information to the people in order to portrait Islam and Muslims in negetive way

:lol::lol: This is what happens when you are boxed by a *HOLY BOOK* you loose the ability to think for your self and give all your troubles and credits to a no-where-to-be-found-god...

Dude the link contains the home page of the stats, please select the graphs and select the indicator "BMI Obese Adults":rolleyes:, When I posted I assumed that at least you are intelligent enough to do this.. :rolleyes:

Not so surprising though!! :lol:


saharaz said:
Al Quran Commanding Muslims to not to eat swine/pork. Al Quran never talk about FAT as you said. Al Quran is words of Allah/God. We have to obey his commandment. WE MUSLIMS DON’T EAT PORK NOT BECOZ OF FAT, BECOZ OF THE COMMANDMENT OF ALLAH SWT. WE MUSLIMS WILL NEVER LOOK FOR THE REASON IF AL QURAN COMMAND US TO DO.

I was pointing out notonly FAT

Consumption of pork causes several diseases
Pig is one of the filthiest animals on earth
Pig is the most shameless animal

But you tagged on FAT story ……

No matter how far you PROPAGATE ANTI-ISLAMIC thoughts here. WHEN THE TRUTH COME FALSEHOOD WILL VANISH

As you said let the people DECIDE…….
:lol::lol: Dude can I ask you something? Why did Allah created PIG in the first place then?

It is very typical for you to runaway from the issues so I'm not so surprised here... If Allah says "Forbidden unto you (for food) are carrion and blood and swine-flesh".. then have you ever thought WHY? is that so?

Oh! you are scared to ask questions from GOD? :rolleyes: I guess the case is the latter one!

You also mentioned...

saharaz said:
Pig is the most shameless animal

The pig is the most shameless animal on the face of the earth. It is the only animal that invites its friends to have sex with its mate. In America, most people consume pork. Many times after dance parties, they have swapping of wives; i.e. many say “you sleep with my wife and I will sleep with your wife.” If you eat pigs then you behave like pigs.
:lol::lol: I know where you get his from... these the stupid arguments of Dr. Naik!:lol::lol:
If I take his analogy... then, all Muslims eat Beef.. so they behave like COW?:lol: Cows have SEX out in the open... do you Muslims have SEX out in the open too?:lol:

C'mon dude... don't you have any shame to even say these kind of stupid things in a public forum?
 

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saharaz said:
you will agree not only with sri_lion also you will agree with any one who ever insult or propagate against Islam.
the next thing is the stats was given by sri_lion is just created by him it will suits people like you. he himself know that those are false information given by him. but i don't know why sri_lion is keeping quite .......
Blah...blah..blah...:lol: :lol: You asking others to give you more questions as if you've already answered the ones that has been put forward to you!!:lol:

You know which ones I'm talking about.... :P Now go.. get some answers!! :lol: :lol:

saharaz said:
i checked his source there is no any informations with regards to Obesity of Muslim countries.

if you are calling www.nationmaster.com and the stats which i gave based on that are shitty stats from a small non-recignised site i hope you will tell the same thing for sri_lion becoz sri_lion is the first one to give a highest pork consuming country stat based on that website at that time you are silent now you call it shitty stats from a small non-recignised site
Its not my fault that you are DUMB enough, that you couldn't get your facts right.. Dont blame me.... blame the CREATOR!!:lol:

First you told us Pork is FAT, then you told us it is not because PORK is fat that Allah denied consuming it... :lol::lol: Hmmm.. lot of contradiction here... :lol::lol: So I'm asking again then WHY did Allah deny it other than PORK not being healthy like you say?
 

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nadeeshaF said:
Jebus, you guys are concerned about the way an animal, AN "ANIMAL" mates?
Holy hell, that's the limit right there! What's the pig gotta be ashamed of? All animals are like that, even cows. And it's legitimate for some people (supposedly on a higher plain that any animal- gotta question this) to have multiple wives? It's okay for a woman to be all ladida and fine with her husband bedding with couple other women? Eww eww, you are calling the pig shameful, well what is this then huh?

:lol: :lol:


It is ok for you people to bed with your husband who is been sleeping with great number of prostitutes also who is been engage in illicit affair with other women.

It is ok for a muslim women to bed with her husband who is been married 2 – 4 women according to the ruling of the Islam and according to the Law of the country in order to help her muslim sister who is being a widow or unable marry for various reasons…

Let the people judge which is practical, lawful, nature friendly and shameful …….
 

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nadeeshaF said:
Oh tell me about it, the women look like penguins on steroid:rolleyes:
Must be all those pregnancies...

what are you trying to say by this ????

you mean muslim women should not bore children and shouldn't get pregnant ......
 

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See the Annual Health Bulletin, the non-communicable diseases section.

I will not accept as long as you give me the authentic source.

what is the difficulty for you to give me the source for the accusation which you make that muslims are the sickest people who suffers from various diseases.

Common Wal badoo be practical if I say that walbadoo you and all your community got HIV go and check the Health Bulletin ……. Is it fair ????
 

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:lol::lol: Dude can I ask you something? Why did Allah created PIG in the first place then?

It is very typical for you to runaway from the issues so I'm not so surprised here... If Allah says "Forbidden unto you (for food) are carrion and blood and swine-flesh".. then have you ever thought WHY? is that so?

Oh! you are scared to ask questions from GOD? :rolleyes: I guess the case is the latter one!

You also mentioned...

Allah swt also has created maggots, bacteria, and deadly viruses...by your logic we should eat those too. While they're at it,
every creature is here for a purpose, whether we know it or not..Allah is testing our faith by telling us to stay clear of things he has forbidden, and besides what has been permitted to eat is far more numerous than what has been forbidden. can human beings not stay away from the few that has been made haram?...
With regard to your saying that if eating it is forbidden, then why did Allaah create pigs? We do not think that you are serious, otherwise we would ask you: why did Allaah create such and such of other things that are harmful or repulsive?
Is it not the prerogative of the Creator to command His slaves as He will, and to rule them as He will. No one can overturn His ruling or change His words.


Is it not the duty of the created being, the slave, to say to his Lord, whenever He commands him to do something: “We hear and we obey”?

You may enjoy its taste and want to eat it, and those around you may enjoy it, but doesn’t Paradise deserve some sacrifice on your part of that which your heart desires?.

Every creature was created by Allah for a purpose. The Prophet always encouraged being kind to animals. Although we should not eat the meat of the pig, it doesn't mean that we should hate pigs. We should show them the same kindness as any other animal, and not abuse or torture them. Pigs score high on tests devised to determine animal intelligence; in other words, they are very smart.
 

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saharaz said:
It is ok for you people to bed with your husband who is been sleeping with great number of prostitutes also who is been engage in illicit affair with other women.

It is ok for a muslim women to bed with her husband who is been married 2 – 4 women according to the ruling of the Islam and according to the Law of the country in order to help her muslim sister who is being a widow or unable marry for various reasons…

Let the people judge which is practical, lawful, nature friendly and shameful …….

Are you kindding me? I made that comment with regard to you calling "pigs shameful". Don't try to sidetrack with me. I know how well Muslims play this game in order to avoid answering questions.

Did you not call the pig shameful for having sex with multiple partners?

Don't muslim men have the legal provision to have multiple partners?

So, if pigs = shameful, for having sex with multiple partners, then by your logic,

Muslim = shameful too, for having multiple wives.

Don't drag in other shit to defend your ass, after making contradictory, and above all STUPID statements. :frown:
 

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saharaz said:
I will not accept as long as you give me the authentic source.

what is the difficulty for you to give me the source for the accusation which you make that muslims are the sickest people who suffers from various diseases.

Common Wal badoo be practical if I say that walbadoo you and all your community got HIV go and check the Health Bulletin ……. Is it fair ????

That is an authentic source, just because you don't have access to it, doesn't make it any less valid.
 

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saharaz said:
Allah swt also has created maggots, bacteria, and deadly viruses...by your logic we should eat those too. While they're at it,
every creature is here for a purpose, whether we know it or not..Allah is testing our faith by telling us to stay clear of things he has forbidden, and besides what has been permitted to eat is far more numerous than what has been forbidden. can human beings not stay away from the few that has been made haram?...
With regard to your saying that if eating it is forbidden, then why did Allaah create pigs? We do not think that you are serious, otherwise we would ask you: why did Allaah create such and such of other things that are harmful or repulsive?
Is it not the prerogative of the Creator to command His slaves as He will, and to rule them as He will. No one can overturn His ruling or change His words.


Is it not the duty of the created being, the slave, to say to his Lord, whenever He commands him to do something: “We hear and we obey”?

You may enjoy its taste and want to eat it, and those around you may enjoy it, but doesn’t Paradise deserve some sacrifice on your part of that which your heart desires?.

Every creature was created by Allah for a purpose. The Prophet always encouraged being kind to animals. Although we should not eat the meat of the pig, it doesn't mean that we should hate pigs. We should show them the same kindness as any other animal, and not abuse or torture them. Pigs score high on tests devised to determine animal intelligence; in other words, they are very smart.


Maggots and all kinds of creepy crawlies are eaten by certain people. So your point is invalid.

And for the love of god, when will you start giving your own answers?
You are a plagiarist! Every single paragraph you have passed on as your own here, was copied from some Islamic website or another, word to word.
 

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  • I will not accept as long as you give me the authentic source.

    what is the difficulty for you to give me the source for the accusation which you make that muslims are the sickest people who suffers from various diseases.

    Common Wal badoo be practical if I say that walbadoo you and all your community got HIV go and check the Health Bulletin ……. Is it fair ????
    Yes, I see, you fail to accept any source other than Quran. Annual Health Bulletin is not on internet. It's only a printed publication. And it is the best and final information collection of health stats. Don't whine, the source is authentic.

    I did not say muslims are the sickest people. Where did I say that? I said hypertension, diabetes, ischemic heart disease and hypercholetorelemia are commoner among muslims. So all sicknessess are comprised of those four? It's fucking hilarious.

    I would check, for sure. I am not a lame person to hold on to a archaic book like you. I would explore the sources. And having read that I would know that you are lying.
     
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    saharaz said:
    Allah swt also has created maggots, bacteria, and deadly viruses...by your logic we should eat those too. While they're at it,
    I think Wal Bada already answered this which would be the same answer that I would have given.. so we proceed!

    saharaz said:
    every creature is here for a purpose, whether we know it or not..Allah is testing our faith by telling us to stay clear of things he has forbidden, and besides what has been permitted to eat is far more numerous than what has been forbidden. can human beings not stay away from the few that has been made haram?...
    With regard to your saying that if eating it is forbidden, then why did Allaah create pigs? We do not think that you are serious, otherwise we would ask you: why did Allaah create such and such of other things that are harmful or repulsive?
    Is it not the prerogative of the Creator to command His slaves as He will, and to rule them as He will. No one can overturn His ruling or change His words.


    Is it not the duty of the created being, the slave, to say to his Lord, whenever He commands him to do something: “We hear and we obey”?
    This paragraph says only one thing... we only know what Q'ran says.. if Q'ran says Allah say this... then we say "aye" to God and move on... we do not question his wisdom...

    And that also perfectly explains the lame arguments bought on by you through out your posts! END OF THE STORY

    saharaz said:
    You may enjoy its taste and want to eat it, and those around you may enjoy it, but doesn’t Paradise deserve some sacrifice on your part of that which your heart desires?.
    Oh! Paradise... :lol::lol: This is called GREED in Buddhism! the greed to entertain your senses in a Paradise... you go to Paradise... then what? live eternal life there? How Allah gurantees that you would go there anyway? ever met one before?:lol:

    saharaz said:
    Every creature was created by Allah for a purpose. The Prophet always encouraged being kind to animals. Although we should not eat the meat of the pig, it doesn't mean that we should hate pigs. We should show them the same kindness as any other animal, and not abuse or torture them. Pigs score high on tests devised to determine animal intelligence; in other words, they are very smart.
    Abuse or Torture? Dude what are you talking? Islam says nothing to killing a COW.. which part of abuse and torture am I not getting here :rolleyes:
     

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    Every creature was created by Allah for a purpose. The Prophet always encouraged being kind to animals. Although we should not eat the meat of the pig, it doesn't mean that we should hate pigs. We should show them the same kindness as any other animal, and not abuse or torture them. Pigs score high on tests devised to determine animal intelligence; in other words, they are very smart.

    The milk of muslim kindness!


    warning: graphical


    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=alZiSWqPyQI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB4gBG49S98

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_76vDJ72QlU

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bbdSDCztm4


    Allahu Akbar! :yes:

    In Sri Lanka too, muslims sacrifice animals each Hajj. Thank heavens I don't have muslim neighbours, don' think I'd be able to stomach the plight of such wanton cruelty. And don't say it's for charity, there are other ways to give to the poor than kill some hapless animal. You can easily buy groceries and rations for the poor, instead. But no, you'll choose to stick to some sick 5th century blood ritual that has no place in the modern world.
     
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