ELAKIRI song brodcasting on Y Fm

kosandpol

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    Lich said:
    ya... but i dont think a country like sri lanka and a media's will agree to pay lots.. coz sri lankan media is earning money from Artists. they are not helping the artists. other reason is Sri lanka Promotions are so different than the other countries. Artists should go to Media and give their material but in other Countries. media is begging for artist materials and they go and get them. see the Difference :)
    Artists needs to make a stand on that. And wide spread piracy isnt really helping them either.
     

    GTRZ

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    Its not only YFM some of those sinhala channels doing it too.
    Few other TV channels also playing elakiri tagged videos.
    Some special TV shows for music videos playing elakiri videos too.

    Anyway i don't see anything wrong with it. They get the content they want and we have our name on it so its not a problem at all.
     

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    GTRZ said:
    Its not only YFM some of those sinhala channels doing it too.
    Few other TV channels also playing elakiri tagged videos.
    Some special TV shows for music videos playing elakiri videos too.

    Anyway i don't see anything wrong with it. They get the content they want and we have our name on it so its not a problem at all.

    :yes:agree bro
     

    kosandpol

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    GTRZ said:
    Its not only YFM some of those sinhala channels doing it too.
    Few other TV channels also playing elakiri tagged videos.
    Some special TV shows for music videos playing elakiri videos too.

    Anyway i don't see anything wrong with it. They get the content they want and we have our name on it so its not a problem at all.
    Problem being that Artist are not getting paid for their work, the companies that sponsored for the in video advertising is getting free air time (for this air time, the sponsors didnt pay for the artist or the channel) and EK isnt getting any compensation, even a simple thank you for it.
     

    GTRZ

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    Lich said:
    its a small amount they pay.. not even a countable amount.. so its kinda useless :D

    The main reason for that, in srilanka people don't find music as a thing to buy. They want it as free. And without the help of those TV or Radio channels they cant sell any album at all.
     

    kosandpol

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    GTRZ said:
    The main reason for that, in srilanka people don't find music as a thing to buy. They want it as free. And without the help of those TV or Radio channels they cant sell any album at all.
    This is mainly because of grey market piracy that is widely available. If tougher stands are taken then this can be turned in to a proper industry.
     

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    kosandpol said:
    Problem being that Artist are not getting paid for their work, the companies that sponsored for the in video advertising is getting free air time (for this air time, the sponsors didnt pay for the artist or the channel) and EK isnt getting any compensation, even a simple thank you for it.
    No machan, you are wrong. sponsors pay the artists and put their ads in the video. So video directors mix those ads to the video like some natural thing. Without those sponsors artists can't do videos coz they cost lot of money.

    Sponsors have used music videos as a cheap/easy way to put their brand name on TV channels for a fraction of the cost they pay for a 30sec TV ad.
    They give one time fee for the artist to include their ad in the video and it plays over and over in all the TV channels day and night. See how much promotion you can get for a small fee :D

    Due to that most of those TV channels now not allowing advertisements in music videos. If there are lot of ads they will not play the video. coz its giving huge financial disadvantage for the TV channel.

    Anyway attitude in people's mind is the major problem here.They find buying music like paying for the CD with case and printed stuff. Not like paying for the music. So they feel if you can get the music free then its nothing really wrong with that. So when people have financial value for the music even channels will have to pay for the artists. But even now channels can pay for the artists coz they putting lot of ads in their music programs. But as an artist you can't ask for money from a channel when people find music as not much finanacialy valueble thing.
     

    kosandpol

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    GTRZ said:
    No machan, you are wrong. sponsors pay the artists and put their ads in the video. So video directors mix those ads to the video like some natural thing. Without those sponsors artists can't do videos coz they cost lot of money.
    No arguments there.

    GTRZ said:
    Sponsors has used music videos as an cheap/easy way to put their brand name on TV channels for a fraction of the cost they pay for a 30sec TV ad.
    They give one time fee for the artist to include their ad in the video and it plays over and over in all the TV channels day and night. See how much promotion you can get for a small fee :D

    Due to that most of those TV channels now not allowing advertisements in music videos. If there are lot of ads they will not play the video. coz its giving huge financial disadvantage for the TV channel.
    This is one problem. For this air time, the TV station is incurring a loss and this inadvertently affecting the artists since their videos are not getting air play. So what money they (the artists) could've made from that video air time is now lost to them.
    Even worse, if the TV station ripped the video off from EK, the artist is not getting any payments at all since there's no deal between the artist and the TV channel for that song.

    It would be a good idea to embed a line like "not for public broadcasting or viewing" in the EK videos to help safe guard EK from possible legal action.

    GTRZ said:
    Anyway attitude in people's mind is the major problem here.They find buying music like paying for the CD with case and printed stuff. Not like paying for the music. So they feel if you can get the music free then its nothing really wrong with that. So when people have financial value for the music even channels will have to pay for the artists. But even now channels can pay for the artists coz they putting lot of ads in their music programs. But as an artist you can't ask for money from a channel when people find music as not much finanacialy valueble thing.
    This is due to the industry not running as an industry in SL. While we do have piracy and IP laws, these needs to be implemented properly and artists have to come together and demand the authorities to implement them. Also artists/record labels have to take legal action against those who disregard the piracy laws. A few large scale law suits against TV/Radio channels and shops will get the industry in order.
    Public awareness of the IP and piracy laws helps as well. When people know that its wrong to rip a song off, and when they also know that they will be sued if they get caught, the public will get used to buying music instead of stealing.
    I know this wont happen over night but it will happen only if people make it happen. So a stand has to be taken at some point.
    EK can help a lot for the changes that needs to happen since artists seems to be supplying their music directly to EK.
     

    buddhika19

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    kosandpol said:
    No arguments there.


    This is one problem. For this air time, the TV station is incurring a loss and this inadvertently affecting the artists since their videos are not getting air play. So what money they (the artists) could've made from that video air time is now lost to them.
    Even worse, if the TV station ripped the video off from EK, the artist is not getting any payments at all since there's no deal between the artist and the TV channel for that song.

    It would be a good idea to embed a line like "not for public broadcasting or viewing" in the EK videos to help safe guard EK from possible legal action.


    This is due to the industry not running as an industry in SL. While we do have piracy and IP laws, these needs to be implemented properly and artists have to come together and demand the authorities to implement them. Also artists/record labels have to take legal action against those who disregard the piracy laws. A few large scale law suits against TV/Radio channels and shops will get the industry in order.
    Public awareness of the IP and piracy laws helps as well. When people know that its wrong to rip a song off, and when they also know that they will be sued if they get caught, the public will get used to buying music instead of stealing.
    I know this wont happen over night but it will happen only if people make it happen. So a stand has to be taken at some point.
    EK can help a lot for the changes that needs to happen since artists seems to be supplying their music directly to EK.


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    kosandpol said:
    I thinks its 2 cents per airplay right ? so, over time it amounts to a significant amount.
    However , more than the amount of money, its the principle that matters.
    If the laws are such that even private channels must pay for the artists, then the artists can make a living out of it and in turn it builds up the industry as well.

    corect..but the thing is they dont play & its hard to get a song play even now a days..they are supposed to pay but they dont
     

    kosandpol

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    ranuka87 said:
    corect..but the thing is they dont play & its hard to get a song play even now a days..they are supposed to pay but they dont
    This is because we still dont have the record label concept established here. Its the record label's duty to promote their artists' work by doing the advertising and negotiating with media for air time.
    Perhaps the new amendments proposed by the new budget will help get this in place.