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fallenzeraphine

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    ugh its the same hardware today also...its not like they make a different GPU for Quadros...they r just a geforce with some tinkering to picture quality and so forth
     

    randiljosh

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    Anusha said:
    No it won't. Did you check the other link I gave you? nVidia uses only a few %s higher. I'm sure it won't go below 15% on average.
    I'm sure it's gonna stay in the range of 5-10% on a Radeon card.some how where ever you search you'll find that best video card for video play back is gonna be a Radeon card:yes: :yes: :yes: :yes:
     

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    Anusha said:
    There are many things that are available in the actual hardware, but disabled on Geforce cards for marketing. They can be unlocked with a driver softmod. Others are just... missing. In the Geforce 6 days, it was the same hardware.

    The argument is not about soft modding. The Quadro has superior picture quality over the Geforce and that's all there is to it.
     

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    chanster said:
    The argument is not about soft modding. The Quadro has superior picture quality over the Geforce and that's all there is to it.
    Any proof that is has better picture quality?
     

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    Anusha said:
    Any proof that is has better picture quality?

    Sorry, there are comparisons but they are very old. They compare the 7900s with the relevant quadros.

    The difference is that qith
    Quadro cards the driver unlocks several additional features like
    antialiased lines which are useful or even mandatory for professional
    applications but useless for general purpose applications and games.
    Unlike common opinion Quadro cards are _not_ slower in games when using
    the same driver settings like on a comparable Geforce card. But they
    offer no benefit for games.

    Another point is that Quadro cards are only made by PNY while Geforce
    cards are made by several OEMs which leads to a huge variation in
    product quality (cooler noise, analog image quality, durability). Quadro
    cards for example usually have a very good analog signal quality which
    even on huge CRTs produces clear and sharp pictures. Quadro cards also
    are certified by several hardware and software vendors for compatibility
    with certain systems and applications, and having a certified gfx card
    together with a certified driver often is a prerequisite to get support
    from your software vendor.

    Hope that helps..Must try to convert a 8600GT to a Quadro one of these days. Thearotically it should improve the OpenGL rendering faster and better AA "picture quality" etc
     

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    chanster said:
    Sorry, there are comparisons but they are very old. They compare the 7900s with the relevant quadros.



    Hope that helps..Must try to convert a 8600GT to a Quadro one of these days. Thearotically it should improve the OpenGL rendering faster and better AA "picture quality" etc
    Well i did something similar with my old GF6200 :P
     

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    chanster said:
    Sorry, there are comparisons but they are very old. They compare the 7900s with the relevant quadros.



    Hope that helps..Must try to convert a 8600GT to a Quadro one of these days. Thearotically it should improve the OpenGL rendering faster and better AA "picture quality" etc
    Do you do hardware rendering in Maya for example?
     

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    The final frame rendered is totally handled by the CPU and Ram even if its hardware rendering or software rendering.(Correct me if im wrong). Just that you cant see the particle effects and some other effects in software rendering is it? The quality of that frame wont be better if you have a Quadro over a Geforce. Just that the Quadro will give better detail in viewport rendering and the image will be better in the viewport.
     

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    chanster said:
    The final frame rendered is totally handled by the CPU and Ram even if its hardware rendering or software rendering.(Correct me if im wrong). Just that you cant see the particle effects and some other effects in software rendering is it? The quality of that frame wont be better if you have a Quadro over a Geforce. Just that the Quadro will give better detail in viewport rendering and the image will be better in the viewport.
    AFAIK, u need to render the particles in hardware and them merge with the other parts which are rendered in software.

    It's not a matter of "better", but more "accurate" when it comes to Quadro.
     

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    Anusha said:
    AFAIK, u need to render the particles in hardware and them merge with the other parts which are rendered in software.

    It's not a matter of "better", but more "accurate" when it comes to Quadro.

    The facts are

    A. THe graphics card is only used to accelerate the GUI part of actually creating the CGI or what ever

    B. CPU alwayz do the final rendering unless u use Nvidia Gelato related effectz
     

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    fallenzeraphine said:
    The facts are

    A. THe graphics card is only used to accelerate the GUI part of actually creating the CGI or what ever

    B. CPU alwayz do the final rendering unless u use Nvidia Gelato related effectz
    There are particles (at least in maya) that cannot be rendered as software. they have to rendered in hardware. a merging is required to make the full scene. i don't know why but that is a fact.
     

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    Anusha said:
    There are particles (at least in maya) that cannot be rendered as software. they have to rendered in hardware. a merging is required to make the full scene. i don't know why but that is a fact.

    This is another fact..if you use a geforce 8500 and a FX 5200 ull see the same exact image the final rendered frame. im talking about hardware rendering in maya, which proves that vga does not have anything to do with the final rendering. Ya maya is like that. You have to render 2 scenes and merge them with premiere or whatever. In 3D max there is nothing like that, That too even if you use a S3 you get the same final rendered frame as using a 8500.
     

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    HA,rendering.It has a effect when the GPU is powerful.And remeber you dont exactly see the same output in 8500 and 5200.:P BTW I'm gonna meet somebody who is doing animation as a hobby on wednesday,a pro in sunday and tomorrow a guy practising it.So must ask them.Anyway use something like canopus procoder.Easy rendering from software. :D
    And thank you guys.I always thought that quadros are GeForces which had some extra things enabled+good drivers+hardened equipment.But I was told that they are a different make.
    BTW WTH use a rendering farm.:rofl:
     

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    Care to share details? Iv been working with 3D max and Maya for the last 5 years or so.Mostly 3D max. i have changed many vgas in that time. They all gave the same details. The Final frame is totally handled by the CPU. The vga helps when designing the scene(That is only if you are using OpenGL or Direct 3D in viewports)I dont have to tell u zex you already know that.

    Last year i followed a Animation Diploma in Wijaya Graphics and they had PCs with MX4000s and 6500s and lately with 8400s. The frame produced by Maya(hardware rendering) in all those cards are the same. Yes ask your friend and see.