who is the real owner of a song

[Lich]

this the prevailing situation nin SL, wht I said was the assumtion n the thng wht shud b prevalied!!!
Anyway wht abt the space given over another singer 2 do a various version of the same song in SL?????

as far as i know NULL. if anyone sings other person song .. eela dawase mala geyak lu. he he.. in Sri Lanka artists really dont know how good that new version going to the radios and channels. so they think its like insulting their reputation. but what i think is doing so many versions by different Artists is a great thing to the melody and give a good new life to the song again

 

[rash87]

if the Artist and the Composer and the writer talk about this issue and talk to the Record label. they can sue those Radio programs and the Channel.... coz those melodies owns by the Composer and the record label ne...

its called Interlactual Property Law ( not 100% Sure about the name )

but rn't they just making some fun out of it, but not making a serious case!!
So sueing them, litle too harsh 4 me!!!!

 

[ravicplk]

Legal action ganna puluwan only to Record Label.. but as far as i know SL is not that standard in Music ... SL is still kids in Music Industry..

i think as a part of the sri lankan arts..sri lankan music is good(i am not talking abt the hiphop) but our music industry is below the standard

 

[tckrockz]

dan site eke eknk innwa okata answer karana puluwan...e thama sindu kiyapu eknk wenna kawruth newi ape dirty aiia eyata denna puluwan mekata hoda explanation 1k

 

[rash87]

as far as i know NULL. if anyone sings other person song .. eela dawase mala geyak lu. he he.. in Sri Lanka artists really dont know how good that new version going to the radios and channels. so they think its like insulting their reputation. but what i think is doing so many versions by different Artists is a great thing to the melody and give a good new life to the song again

it z gr8! I mean in AI judges r promoting the contestants to do their own variations 2 the song, n they do it n they become hits!
For an example David Cook in AI season 7 made a rock version of both Hello(Lionel Richie) n Eleanor Rigby(Beatles-Paul Mctney N John Lennon). Both r classical samsh HitZ!!!
Dn't u thnk a voice must be raised frm the prt of listners 2 promote the same sitution in SL????

 

[Wal Bada]

The most important part of a song is the music, that is what catches the leisteners first. The priory rights should be with the composer. Then comes lyrics writer and then the singer.

No one of above three should own the song. Even if any party pays money to buy the economic rights, no one can modify or distort the original (intellectual rights). If all three agrees, then they can do anything.

 

[Lich]

but rn't they just making some fun out of it, but not making a serious case!!
So sueing them, litle too harsh 4 me!!!!

making a fun of it is normal.. macho.. but going too much is not good.. even Internationally there are programs like MTV Punkz and some more stuff like making fun of the artist and giving a good information. but what i can see from our programs are just WACK stupid ones..

 

[Lich]

i think as a part of the sri lankan arts..sri lankan music is good(i am not talking abt the hiphop) but our music industry is below the standard

True.. We are not in the real Standard.. what our new artists i mean the youth doing is just following a track which one person went before.. it is not good for the Future.. and all our new artists using hell lot of Samples.. .its like in a song there are hell lot of samples. some times even the Melody is a sample music one.. he he.. i think its all because not a proper Education bout Music in SL

 

[ravicplk]

The most important part of a song is the music, that is what catches the leisteners first. The priory rights should be with the composer. Then comes lyrics writer and then the singer.

No one of above three should own the song. Even if any party pays money to buy the economic rights, no one can modify or distort the original (intellectual rights). If all three agrees, then they can do anything.

most important part of a song cant be taken straightly as music.as i think it differs from listener to listener.so the listener can be either like the lyrics or the voice.

 

[nEoN_wHitE]

Its all depends on the track

if the Singer goes to a composer and made the track and paid that person composer cant influence anything and singer owns it. but composer can tell or suggest anything. and same as that to lyrics writers too. if singer paying them. they just doing a job. they cant get the rights. but for some extent they can say it done by them. and singer should mention their names.

its like this macho...

they cant be owners.. owners means they have rights kiyana eka.. so listeners dont have rights.. but they have right what to listen and what not to

thread eke summery eka menna thiyanwa
thanx macho 4 da info

 

[Lich]

The most important part of a song is the music, that is what catches the leisteners first. The priory rights should be with the composer. Then comes lyrics writer and then the singer.

No one of above three should own the song. Even if any party pays money to buy the economic rights, no one can modify or distort the original (intellectual rights). If all three agrees, then they can do anything.

I agree but only for some Extent macho.. coz there are some songs and some composers think they own that trck.. so coz of that even Singers cant do anything.. but unfortunately the singer even paid the composer too... i dont think i have to give examples for what i said now...

 

[rash87]

making a fun of it is normal.. macho.. but going too much is not good.. even Internationally there are programs like MTV Punkz and some more stuff like making fun of the artist and giving a good information. but what i can see from our programs are just WACK stupid ones..

A programme lyk MTV PunkZz will never b accepted by Sl artists!!!
But yeah too much may be smthng 2 consider abt, but I thnk Tarzan Baappa has sm kind of messages givingtendancy as it has been kida accepted by the society!!

 

[Lich]

The most important part of a song is the music, that is what catches the leisteners first. The priory rights should be with the composer. Then comes lyrics writer and then the singer.

No one of above three should own the song. Even if any party pays money to buy the economic rights, no one can modify or distort the original (intellectual rights). If all three agrees, then they can do anything.

and i forgot to mention u macho.. in SL most of the Singers do their Melody and go to the Composer and arrange it properly and then finalise the track. so i really go ahead with the Singer.. coz singer paying for other two parties too.. if its a Own one i think the singer dont have to pay for them...

 

[rash87]

The most important part of a song is the music, that is what catches the leisteners first. The priory rights should be with the composer. Then comes lyrics writer and then the singer.

No one of above three should own the song. Even if any party pays money to buy the economic rights, no one can modify or distort the original (intellectual rights). If all three agrees, then they can do anything.

The thng abt the ownership u r tlkng abt can b accepted but abt ur mentioning abt Intellectual thng, r u saying tht new versions of songs z bad????

 

[Wal Bada]

in Sri Lanka artists really dont know how good that new version going to the radios and channels. so they think its like insulting their reputation.

Totally wrong and it shows the attitude of young fellows like you towards the guys who shed sweat, tears and blood to take SL music to this level.

Most of people who do remixes cannot sing properly. Even lay listeners like us notice many errors in tune. The original maestro will notice hundreds and just will ask "What the hell is he doing with my song?" or "Is this bloke called a singer?". It's OK if some one can actually do better tha the original artist. And better <> popular

Then when ever remixes are done, they are used for economic purposes. If someone wants to doa remix for the betterment of music and the sake of listeners, he / she should not sell it. If it has a economical purpose then the idea is dirty.

 

[ravicplk]

True.. We are not in the real Standard.. what our new artists i mean the youth doing is just following a track which one person went before.. it is not good for the Future.. and all our new artists using hell lot of Samples.. .its like in a song there are hell lot of samples. some times even the Melody is a sample music one.. he he.. i think its all because not a proper Education bout Music in SL

yes our youth music trend is below par..what u think abt our senior artists.like ameradeva , victor rathnayake.... they have a good standard isn't it.. the problem is this they aren't doing anything new..
why aren't yhey doing??
afraid of loosing there famousness . bcz there is a war of music videos.

 

[Lich]

A programme lyk MTV PunkZz will never b accepted by Sl artists!!!
But yeah too much may be smthng 2 consider abt, but I thnk Tarzan Baappa has sm kind of messages givingtendancy as it has been kida accepted by the society!!

Machan for ur information.. when i started ElaKiri i had so many new plans

and most of them when i talk with some directors they copied it and doing it

one is Derana Music Videos.. that was my idea and we talked about it with Ravi and some of the Directors in Derana.. but wadak nae kiyala

so next thing is

I was going to do a show called ElaKiri Punkz.. basically that the same thing in that MTV punkz show.. and i really punk one Artist in Sri Lanka. but unfortunately he has threatened me not to put it . mata marum kanna wenne eka dammoth

 

[Wal Bada]

I agree but only for some Extent macho.. coz there are some songs and some composers think they own that trck.. so coz of that even Singers cant do anything.. but unfortunately the singer even paid the composer too... i dont think i have to give examples for what i said now...

That may be after an agreement. Here what is done is to pay the singer a lump sum to sell the track to the composer. It's money playing the most important part.

 

[Lich]

yes our youth music trend is below par..what u think abt our senior artists.like ameradeva , victor rathnayake.... they have a good standard isn't it.. the problem is this they aren't doing anything new..
why aren't yhey doing??
afraid of loosing there famousness . bcz there is a war of music videos.

True but macho we cant say all the youth Musicians kiyala.. coz see Kasun Kalhara , Nadeeka , and many more classical artists.. they never want a fame...

 

[rash87]

Totally wrong and it shows the attitude of young fellows like you towards the guys who shed sweat, tears and blood to take SL music to this level.

Most of people who do remixes cannot sing properly. Even lay listeners like us notice many errors in tune. The original maestro will notice hundreds and just will ask "What the hell is he doing with my song?" or "Is this bloke called a singer?". It's OK if some one can actually do better tha the original artist. And better <> popular

Then when ever remixes are done, they are used for economic purposes. If someone wants to doa remix for the betterment of music and the sake of listeners, he / she should not sell it. If it has a economical purpose then the idea is dirty.

remixing n doing a new version z totally 2!
Remixing stuff done in SL r full of shit n I totally agree w/ u abt tht!
But the thng u mention abt selling it, I mean bro in the world u gotta live. For ur talents getting paid z not a sin! N the other thng z w/ the situation in SL u've 2 giv sm economical value in oder to take it to the audience!!!!