who is the real owner of a song

who is the owner of a song

  • Writer

    Votes: 12 30.8%
  • Music director

    Votes: 9 23.1%
  • Singer

    Votes: 10 25.6%
  • Listeners

    Votes: 6 15.4%
  • other

    Votes: 2 5.1%

  • Total voters
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rash87

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That what I am saying, unless you can do it correctly, don't do it. Remixing is not for the novives, it is for the experts in vocals and music.
well for sure but the situation in SL z dat even the skilled ones r been dumped!!!
 

Wal Bada

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    well bro sseing through different glasses may certainly wud give different perspectives!
    But hey, as it said earlier seeing the economical side z nt a sin also dn't confine ur self 2 one frame!!
    Now the problem is SL music industry is too much in the economic frame (once again seeing from my frame. But even that point that I am in a one frame is a result from seeing from your frame).
     

    gtkisaru

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    [SIZE=-1]If I wrote a song, I would be the author and the copyright owner of that song ... but if my lyrics doesnt sound good, the listener will reject it,
    But the Record Company,music composer and the singer can uplift my song if they do there part well.....
    ,This question can be answered in many point of views... It's very confusing...I think dis question should be answered by a professional..[/SIZE]
     

    aye_sha90

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    I think it depends on da type of songs nd the music used .. example house..based more on music .. on rythm...nt on words .. as are other i hip-hop stuff...
    example .. who cares mo abt irajz trackz lyrics thn to his music??i think 1%..lol
    there r few other types of songs dat give more importance 2the content of the text .. bt I think .. a real song dsnt exist without the connection btween
    music nd the text ... da way of singin is also important......
    every text has its own appropriated music this is what makes it enjoyable
     

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    gtkisaru said:
    [SIZE=-1]If I wrote a song, I would be the author and the copyright owner of that song ... but if my lyrics doesnt sound good, the listener will reject it,
    But the Record Company,music composer and the singer can uplift my song if they do there part well.....
    ,This question can be answered in many point of views... It's very confusing...I think dis question should be answered by a professional..[/SIZE]

    if u think u are the writer and think like that. yes.. but lets say a singer comes to u and give u a job then for that job they pay u so then u cant take the copyright owner of that song.... but for modifications singer should talk with u and do it..
     

    Lich

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    aye_sha90 said:
    I think it depends on da type of songs nd the music used .. example house..based more on music .. on rythm...nt on words .. as are other i hip-hop stuff...
    example .. who cares mo abt irajz trackz lyrics thn to his music??i think 1%..lol
    there r few other types of songs dat give more importance 2the content of the text .. bt I think .. a real song dsnt exist without the connection btween
    music nd the text ... da way of singin is also important......
    every text has its own appropriated music this is what makes it enjoyable

    true.. and u know most of Iraj songs done by Duka. so basically those lyrics has some weired feeling to the song. as we all know Duka charge some amount for lyrics writing
     

    cha_sl

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    according to intellectual property law writer , melody owner and singer are the owners of a song, but for the ease of use we consider singer is the owner.. because its his voice that ppl recognize as a song in in the end...

    if u want more abut this .. i can give hell lot of information
     

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    cha_sl said:
    according to intellectual property law writer , melody owner and singer are the owners of a song, but for the ease of use we consider singer is the owner.. because its his voice that ppl recognize as a song in in the end...

    if u want more abut this .. i can give hell lot of information

    U sounds like an attorney at law, Notary Public :S :eek: :eek:
     

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    cha_sl said:
    according to intellectual property law writer , melody owner and singer are the owners of a song, but for the ease of use we consider singer is the owner.. because its his voice that ppl recognize as a song in in the end...

    if u want more abut this .. i can give hell lot of information
    buddy... not only that 3 party. there is one more called Record label. they have the main rights about the song
     

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    Lich said:
    buddy... not only that 3 party. there is one more called Record label. they have the main rights about the song
    machan.. that is true to some extent .. that is a given right ..singer sells his rights to record label for period of time. but in the life time of the singer.. he is he owner. according to copyright law, singer can sue a pirate any time he wants
     

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    what the &^%$ vote?

    First of all I would like to say . . .

    There is no any ownership or right to the listeners.

    Initially any created song own by creator of the song (Music)

    Lyrics writer have ownership of words.

    some time one person or more doing this.

    example: Clarence Wijewardena, Rookantha

    But, if you don't register it officially it can be a problem. You must need to register it first at copyright registration office with evidences, music notes, words as well as recorded song with a fee.

    Singers don't have any rights for the song if they not invloved for any creations.

    Music composer or music director is different, person who created a TUNE for the song is the person who can have rights.

    I'm not going to explain futher, because you can undersnd the rest.

    Producers have producing and distributing rights according to the agreement, which they have signed with the creators.

    If any one need more details for serious registering works, I can help you. There are lots of people doing mistakes when they register for copyrights.
     

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    cha_sl said:
    machan.. that is true to some extent .. that is a given right ..singer sells his rights to record label for period of time. but in the life time of the singer.. he is he owner. according to copyright law, singer can sue a pirate any time he wants
    In SL .. Record label get more priority macho... thats how it goes.. trust me.. i know about it ..
     

    OscarNonis

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    Lich said:
    In SL .. Record label get more priority macho... thats how it goes.. trust me.. i know about it ..

    Our singer need to be popular and they want money, thats it.

    I personally know about lots of cases since first cassette issue.

    Thats why I mentioned above, if some one need I can give right guidance and provide right information.

    You must need to give ONLY distributing rights to the record companies with some conditions. Malli api thawa keeyak hari wediye dennam, nathnam car ekak aran dennam kiwwa gaman apey kattiya okkoma denawa.

    Parana aluth kiyala nehe. Samaharu copyrights gena danneth nehe. computer eken music hadanwaa kiyana lankawe prasidda musician kenek dawasak magen ahawwa.. Virus eddi computer eka allanna honda nadda eka apitath bo wenawada kiyala. Meka habeyi ahewwe danata awurudu 6 -7 kata kalin.
     

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    cha_sl said:
    machan.. that is true to some extent .. that is a given right ..singer sells his rights to record label for period of time. but in the life time of the singer.. he is he owner. according to copyright law, singer can sue a pirate any time he wants

    There is no any rights to the singer unless he created song.
     

    OscarNonis

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    When it comes to the ownership rights to a song, the legal and ethical waters get a bit murky. Establishing the ownership of any creative work can be fraught with peril, although there are some basic copyright laws which do make things a little clearer. One might assume the songwriter himself or herself owns exclusive rights to a song he or she created, but that's not always the case in the professional music business.

    A songwriter, much like any other literary composer, is automatically granted rights to a song the instant it is created. But this is considered to be more of an intellectual copyright until that song has been registered, transcribed in printed form, or otherwise established in a permanent medium (i.e. a recorded demo). If another musician learned the song's unique melody and lyrics, then deliberately claimed the song as his or her own, the original songwriter may have a difficult time proving full rights to a song which was never recorded or published. Scenarios such as this can and do happen in the music industry, especially when songwriting teams split up or band members become solo artists.

    Even though the original songwriter may own the intellectual rights to a song, he or she may not be in a position to control all of the possible uses of that song. Songwriters and musicians under contract to a studio may have to relinquish certain rights to a song as part of their agreement. In that case, the studio itself may assume certain rights to a song, particularly when it comes to derivative works such as sampling, covers by other artists and compilation albums. Songs created by artists while under contract to a studio may be considered "work product," in the same sense that an engineer working for NASA or General Electric could not claim a patent for an invention created on company time.

    There is also a separation between the performance rights to a song and the recording rights to a song. Many times the publisher of a song, which may or may not be the composer, controls the mechanical rightsof that song. Producers and musicians interested in recording that song and releasing it on an album must obtain the mechanical rights to do so. This is one way an artist can exercise some control over the use of his or her music, especially when the artistic visions of the songwriter and interested parties could potentially clash. In some ways, whoever holds the mechanical rights to a song effectively controls the future of that song. Quite often, this is the original songwriter working as the head of his or her own music publishing company.

    Source: Wise Geek

    Check this US Copyright website for more info
     
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    phantomzone

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    where all the phantoms live..
    machan mekath hariyata ara pepsi can eke kathaawa wage thamaa...
    salli daala pepsi can ekak gaththama eka aithi pepsi mechine ekatada nathnam apitada??? kiyana ekama thamaa.. very simple machan... nthn to debate soo much on dis...
    jst think machanla ubala kadeta gihin baduwak gaththama eka aithi kade mudalaalitada nathnam ubalatada kiyala....