Discussion About ISP's In Sri Lanka

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tharinda76 said:
anika ban mun iptv mala ilawwak dagena thawath bandwith eka kanawa !:growl:

na machan oya deyn internet walata loku awulak naha, server wenas... denata SLT ekata thiyena Bandwidth hondatama ethi....
 

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    tharinda76 said:
    anika ban mun iptv mala ilawwak dagena thawath bandwith eka kanawa !:growl:
    iptv run wenne slt eka athule servers walin.. apita deela thiyena copper wire eke 20 mbps wenakal speed yanna puluwan.. iptv walata assign karanne 3 mbps witharai.. thawath ISP to USER bandwidth ona tharam thiyenawa... IPTV international bandwidth use kaaaanne na :D

    e hinda nodanna magul gena boruwata ke gahanne nathuwa inna ;)
     

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    SaNDun said:
    iptv run wenne slt eka athule servers walin.. apita deela thiyena copper wire eke 20 mbps wenakal speed yanna puluwan.. iptv walata assign karanne 3 mbps witharai.. thawath ISP to USER bandwidth ona tharam thiyenawa... IPTV international bandwidth use kaaaanne na :D

    e hinda nodanna magul gena boruwata ke gahanne nathuwa inna ;)

    eka thamay machan kiyanne :yes: :yes:

    thanks machan ela details tika, ape ewunta notherena eka thamay matath prashne.kochchara international bandwidth gena kiwwath wedak naha
    SLT ekata thiyena International bandwidth ekata wena ISP ekakata close wenna puluwanda?

    mama dekala thiyenawa samahara aya SLT vs Dialog eka compare karala Dialog honday kiyanawa :lol: :lol:

    habay kawuruth dialog eke international bandwidth kiyada kiyala hoyanne na :no:
     

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    Jack_Sparrow said:
    Prices were

    512 Kbps - Rs 2 000
    1 Mbps - Rs 3 000

    Limits??? there or not???
    through the normal Phone line neda??? i mean no modems routers bla bla
     

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    rukshankb said:
    eka thamay machan kiyanne :yes: :yes:

    thanks machan ela details tika, ape ewunta notherena eka thamay matath prashne.kochchara international bandwidth gena kiwwath wedak naha
    SLT ekata thiyena International bandwidth ekata wena ISP ekakata close wenna puluwanda?

    mama dekala thiyenawa samahara aya SLT vs Dialog eka compare karala Dialog honday kiyanawa :lol: :lol:

    habay kawuruth dialog eke international bandwidth kiyada kiyala hoyanne na :no:

    Hi Guys, Let me share my thoughts here.
    There is no direct relationship between the quality of Broadband internet and the ISP's International Backbone capacity / Bandwidth. Broadband internet is based on shared BW conecpt. ISPs use a contention ratio to limit the broadband usage. Say if SLT uses 1:50 "Contention Ratio: for broadband, 1M international BW is sgared among 50 number of 1M customers or 25 number of 2M customers ( 1M*50 or 2M*25 ). in practical , if 1:50 contention ratio is used 10,000 customers of 512Kbps(0.5M) will be allowed to use maximum of 100Mbps international BW ( 1:50 == 100: 0.5M*10000 ). The assumption behind this business model is, all customers are not going to use the internet simultaneously and with full capacity. Therefore SLT / Dialog / any ISP is not going to give you their full international BW to broadband customers. They will throttle the usage according to the contention ratio ( ex 100M) that they have. So comparing the international backbone capacity won't be the measure of quality. AT&T , Sprint, Verizon etc have terrabits of capacity. Only thing that affect the quality is the international network path. If an ISP has multiple direct connectivity with other world class ISPs ( Called Tier 1 ISPs), their internet quality will be good. SLT has STM1(~155M)/STM4(~620M) level connectivity to USA, Italy, UK, Singapore and Honkong. Simillarly Dialog has direct STM1 (155Mbps) connectivity with Tier 1 ISPs like Sprint (UK) , France Telekom, Verizon - Europe, Verizon - Asia, Cable and Wireless , Datahop (UK), Telekom Malysia,. The total international BW is closer to 1Gbps. Other Srilankan ISPs have only one international connectivity. The quality of the international path can be checked by "ping / traceroute" commandsin the windows / Linux machine ( ex ping www.yahoo.com) . When i compare the ping latency result of SLT and Dialog for some destinations, dialog shows better results. Only difference is SLT uses wireline to connect customers and Dialog uses wireless links. Therefore lastmile delay ( ISP to Cutomer) is ~20ms for SLT and 40-60ms for Dialog's Wimax. We should check the quality of both ISPs before sharing our comments. I can share my test results here. It is pointless to say , SLT is good snce it has 3GBps backbone.
     

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    nmrnehru said:
    Hi Guys, Let me share my thoughts here.
    There is no direct relationship between the quality of Broadband internet and the ISP's International Backbone capacity / Bandwidth. Broadband internet is based on shared BW conecpt. ISPs use a contention ratio to limit the broadband usage. Say if SLT uses 1:50 "Contention Ratio: for broadband, 1M international BW is sgared among 50 number of 1M customers or 25 number of 2M customers ( 1M*50 or 2M*25 ). in practical , if 1:50 contention ratio is used 10,000 customers of 512Kbps(0.5M) will be allowed to use maximum of 100Mbps international BW ( 1:50 == 100: 0.5M*10000 ). The assumption behind this business model is, all customers are not going to use the internet simultaneously and with full capacity. Therefore SLT / Dialog / any ISP is not going to give you their full international BW to broadband customers. They will throttle the usage according to the contention ratio ( ex 100M) that they have. So comparing the international backbone capacity won't be the measure of quality. AT&T , Sprint, Verizon etc have terrabits of capacity. Only thing that affect the quality is the international network path. If an ISP has multiple direct connectivity with other world class ISPs ( Called Tier 1 ISPs), their internet quality will be good. SLT has STM1(~155M)/STM4(~620M) level connectivity to USA, Italy, UK, Singapore and Honkong. Simillarly Dialog has direct STM1 (155Mbps) connectivity with Tier 1 ISPs like Sprint (UK) , France Telekom, Verizon - Europe, Verizon - Asia, Cable and Wireless , Datahop (UK), Telekom Malysia,. The total international BW is closer to 1Gbps. Other Srilankan ISPs have only one international connectivity. The quality of the international path can be checked by "ping / traceroute" commandsin the windows / Linux machine ( ex ping www.yahoo.com) . When i compare the ping latency result of SLT and Dialog for some destinations, dialog shows better results. Only difference is SLT uses wireline to connect customers and Dialog uses wireless links. Therefore lastmile delay ( ISP to Cutomer) is ~20ms for SLT and 40-60ms for Dialog's Wimax. We should check the quality of both ISPs before sharing our comments. I can share my test results here. It is pointless to say , SLT is good snce it has 3GBps backbone.

    yes International BW is not the main one, but there is an effect. :)
    you have discussed about the ping test. ok refer these pages, what you can say?
    http://www.dialogblogs.com/2008/11/hspa-issues-open-thread/
    http://sinhala.kalingasblog.com/200...bile-broadband-hsdpa-vs-mobitel-m3-borodband/
    from these sites, most of dialog HSPA users are not satisfying with ping, speed test results. I think you better share your experiance with speed test and ping test here.
    Thanks for your valuable comments.
     

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    rukshankb said:
    yes International BW is not the main one, but there is an effect. :)
    you have discussed about the ping test. ok refer these pages, what you can say?
    http://www.dialogblogs.com/2008/11/hspa-issues-open-thread/
    http://sinhala.kalingasblog.com/200...bile-broadband-hsdpa-vs-mobitel-m3-borodband/
    from these sites, most of dialog HSPA users are not satisfying with ping, speed test results. I think you better share your experiance with speed test and ping test here.
    Thanks for your valuable comments.
    i also agree machan ppl use other isps except slt hav a very bad feeling abt deir connection.but slt ppl felt bad dese days bcoz da site responding tym ws too low dese days due 2 dat cable problem.otherwise SLT is da best:)
     

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    Isuru Nayanajith Bandara said:
    i also agree machan ppl use other isps except slt hav a very bad feeling abt deir connection.but slt ppl felt bad dese days bcoz da site responding tym ws too low dese days due 2 dat cable problem.otherwise SLT is da best:)

    yes machan in these days they have some problems, that's why we need to find the problems and solutions. other wise isp's cheat customers.:)
     

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    Who says Dialog Broadband is slow!!!! I have a 1mbps connection and it is fast enough for watch movies online, without giving it some time to buffer!!!
    speedtest.JPG.html
     

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    Sahan678 said:
    Afoi m3 ema unlimited kirimak gana umbalata news ekak danne nadda? Kattiya

    balamu mobitel ekath langadi ehema karayda danne nane, eth HSPA walata ehema leseiyen karanna nam amaruy. :no:
     

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    rukshankb said:
    yes International BW is not the main one, but there is an effect. :)
    you have discussed about the ping test. ok refer these pages, what you can say?
    http://www.dialogblogs.com/2008/11/hspa-issues-open-thread/
    http://sinhala.kalingasblog.com/2008/09/16/dialog-unlimited-mobile-broadband-hsdpa-vs-mobitel-m3-borodband/
    from these sites, most of dialog HSPA users are not satisfying with ping, speed test results. I think you better share your experiance with speed test and ping test here.
    Thanks for your valuable comments.

    We need to compare Dialog HSPA Vs Mobitel HSPA and Dialog Dnet/ Homenet( Wimax) Vs SLT ADSL. HSPA broadband is totally depending on the 3G radio network signal coverage and the air interface quality. I get good speed since most of the time i used Dialog HSPA in colombo residential area where the 3G signal is good.

    I wanted to compare Dialog WiMax with SLT ADSL. I've been using ADSL for last 2 Years. Recently i have got a Wimax 4Mbps connection. My experience is, "ADSL is not the best like you all say". That doesn't mean ADSL is worst. Dialog Wimax and SLT ADSL are in tough competition in the quality perspective. Here i am attaching some popular destinations where SLT performance poor when comparing Dialog. ( See the Attached text file. All these tests were done 1st Jan, 2009 around 2 PM) . You can observe high latency and more than 15% packet loss in ADSL where dialog has very minimum. Dialog showed good latencies to most of the destinations. ( Before the cable cut issue on Dec 19th)

    I used the tool :P "WINMTR" (http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/) which is useful for international path performance analysis. Aslo the usual ping and traceroutes are ttached in another text file.


    Some SLT Speed Test results ( Poor performance)






    In my view, :no: SLT is not providing any extra ordinary qulaity internet. We all have that impression in our mind. If you use Dialog connection, you can compare the performnce with SLT. Competition between providers is very much necessarry for the sake of the user benefits. I hope you guys can still remember the time that we waited for more than a year to get a new telephone line from SLT. After other operators ( Suntel , Lnakabel etc) came to the market with competition, the quality of service improved very much, you can get a connection just in a few days. We don't want to create such monopoly in the Data / Internet Market by boasting about one service provider without having a proper comparison with Other operators. We would like to see any comarion between Dialog and Mobitel HSPA connections. Would like to see some neutral comments from Dialog Wimax users here...
     

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    nmrnehru said:
    We need to compare Dialog HSPA Vs Mobitel HSPA and Dialog Dnet/ Homenet( Wimax) Vs SLT ADSL. HSPA broadband is totally depending on the 3G radio network signal coverage and the air interface quality. I get good speed since most of the time i used Dialog HSPA in colombo residential area where the 3G signal is good.

    I wanted to compare Dialog WiMax with SLT ADSL. I've been using ADSL for last 2 Years. Recently i have got a Wimax 4Mbps connection. My experience is, "ADSL is not the best like you all say". That doesn't mean ADSL is worst. Dialog Wimax and SLT ADSL are in tough competition in the quality perspective. Here i am attaching some popular destinations where SLT performance poor when comparing Dialog. ( See the Attached text file. All these tests were done 1st Jan, 2009 around 2 PM) . You can observe high latency and more than 15% packet loss in ADSL where dialog has very minimum. Dialog showed good latencies to most of the destinations. ( Before the cable cut issue on Dec 19th)

    I used the tool :P "WINMTR" (http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/) which is useful for international path performance analysis. Aslo the usual ping and traceroutes are ttached in another text file.


    Some SLT Speed Test results ( Poor performance)






    In my view, :no: SLT is not providing any extra ordinary qulaity internet. We all have that impression in our mind. If you use Dialog connection, you can compare the performnce with SLT. Competition between providers is very much necessarry for the sake of the user benefits. I hope you guys can still remember the time that we waited for more than a year to get a new telephone line from SLT. After other operators ( Suntel , Lnakabel etc) came to the market with competition, the quality of service improved very much, you can get a connection just in a few days. We don't want to create such monopoly in the Data / Internet Market by boasting about one service provider without having a proper comparison with Other operators. We would like to see any comarion between Dialog and Mobitel HSPA connections. Would like to see some neutral comments from Dialog Wimax users here...



    I have ADSL 512 kbps Home Express. And Im having full speed even there is a SEA-ME-WE cable cut.

    Here are the Results I got few mins ago..

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    IMO.. Please check your ADSL line :P :P :P
     

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    nmrnehru said:
    We need to compare Dialog HSPA Vs Mobitel HSPA and Dialog Dnet/ Homenet( Wimax) Vs SLT ADSL. HSPA broadband is totally depending on the 3G radio network signal coverage and the air interface quality. I get good speed since most of the time i used Dialog HSPA in colombo residential area where the 3G signal is good.

    I wanted to compare Dialog WiMax with SLT ADSL. I've been using ADSL for last 2 Years. Recently i have got a Wimax 4Mbps connection. My experience is, "ADSL is not the best like you all say". That doesn't mean ADSL is worst. Dialog Wimax and SLT ADSL are in tough competition in the quality perspective. Here i am attaching some popular destinations where SLT performance poor when comparing Dialog. ( See the Attached text file. All these tests were done 1st Jan, 2009 around 2 PM) . You can observe high latency and more than 15% packet loss in ADSL where dialog has very minimum. Dialog showed good latencies to most of the destinations. ( Before the cable cut issue on Dec 19th)

    I used the tool :P "WINMTR" (http://winmtr.sourceforge.net/) which is useful for international path performance analysis. Aslo the usual ping and traceroutes are ttached in another text file.


    Some SLT Speed Test results ( Poor performance)






    In my view, :no: SLT is not providing any extra ordinary qulaity internet. We all have that impression in our mind. If you use Dialog connection, you can compare the performnce with SLT. Competition between providers is very much necessarry for the sake of the user benefits. I hope you guys can still remember the time that we waited for more than a year to get a new telephone line from SLT. After other operators ( Suntel , Lnakabel etc) came to the market with competition, the quality of service improved very much, you can get a connection just in a few days. We don't want to create such monopoly in the Data / Internet Market by boasting about one service provider without having a proper comparison with Other operators. We would like to see any comarion between Dialog and Mobitel HSPA connections. Would like to see some neutral comments from Dialog Wimax users here...

    first of all, i must say thank you for a valuable comment. hey, i don't need to promote any ISP here, as a customer we must talk about our connections. so far dialog is getting a bad image for HSPA connection even in dialog official blog.
    Is it a my work?:lol: a lot of customers have commented with proofs.
    ok here my current results for servers which you were used. I think you better to add test results with a dialog HSPA connection.












    when i compare with your results, the ping in your results are not usual values. :baffled:
     

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    thanks sandun honda help ekak dunna den. ethana ping time ekama wediy ape ewata wada, ekko mokak hari download weddi me speed test karanna ethi. balamuko aayeth ahala, ethakota eya test karana time ekema apiatath speed test ekak denna puluwanne eththa naththa denaganna. hehe