na na mu nemei me wena ekekඑතකොට @hancok මේ කියන්නෙ (aka thread වල හැමිණෙන කොකා) සසික රණවක කියන එකාද?
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apo na echchara manasikathwayak naඑතකොට @hancok මේ කියන්නෙ (aka thread වල හැමිණෙන කොකා) සසික රණවක කියන එකාද?
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yeah that could be true. but most of the distant district fellows with low zscores fall out in to low demanding fields like material and mech. and if they get in to fields like electronic or cse, you have to admit that the student is skilled regardless of the zscore. if there are worthy graduates from degrees other than engineering, best thing is to standardize the degree more up to an engineering degree with introducing more math modules or just to conduct exams from IESL for the missing math and other modules then award the membership. but claiming titles without the membership cannot be accepted. it's not just an id card and a membership letter. there's a legal bond for the engineer with the ethics code to the society, which is not known or followed by wanna be engineers, which was proven in the same thread by some wannabe engineers and even some "software architects"FYI - Chemical Engineering degrees are the worst I know. Especially from Moratuwa. There is a huge knowledge gap between them and the people from the Science Faculty. Chemistry Special students From science faculties are far ahead in terms of knowledge that's why they have more probability of getting scholarships from foreign universities. And People from Science faculties also working as Chemical Engineers in some companies. Analytical Chemists in Moratuwa have a hard time filling these knowledge gaps of inexperienced probationary lecturers from Engineering faculties. And most of these lecturers don't know how to google and always come with questions instead of searching. No research skills.
Z-Score based on a Quota. Some people with High Z scores from Colombo are selected into Science faculties but some people from Nuwara Eliya or Badulla etc are selected into Engineering with lower Z-Scores. Therefore you cannot differentiate between 2 sets of people. Science faculty people who did Maths as a subject will go deeper in mathematics than Engineering students. If they did CS parallelly will do that too. IMO IESL should consider people who did maths in science faculties but work in an Engineering position, as an engineer. That is the fair option.

exactly. software development is quite similar to a building design and construction, involving engineers, technical officers, engineering assistants, supervisors, foremen, storekeepers and masons etc. but when it comes to the software development, everybody including laborers, storekeepers and formen suddenly become "engineers"Honestly... all these are fancy titles at the whims and the preferences of the employers. I would guess probably more than 90% of the so called Software Engineers are nothing but Programmers or Software Developers.
A Software Engineer should have a Degree in Engineering with training and in many countries you are legally required to have an Engineering degree to hold the title. That's what makes them different. They are the ones who have the overall responsibility for the big picture of the system.
A Programmer often is a person who has a Bachelors Degree in Computer Science.
However, to become a clever Programmer you don't need anything other than an innate skill and abilities in programming.
අඩෙ හැන්කොකා උඹෙන් පොඩ් දෙයක් දැනගන්න ඔනි .exactly. software development is quite similar to a building design and construction, involving engineers, technical officers, engineering assistants, supervisors, foremen, storekeepers and masons etc. but when it comes to the software development, everybody including laborers, storekeepers and formen suddenly become "engineers"
i have no problem allowing engineer registration even for uscs people after taking the missing modules compared to an engineering degree either at IESL exam level or cpd course or something. but nobody should take the engineer designation unless they have the IESL associate membership. even for CSE graduates who only remembers it when they need a loan. I blame IESL for their only write the law - no implementation policy. compared to the other professional institutions like SLMC, bar association/ law equivalent
NDT level. diploma. sometimes with degrees from SLIIT etcඅඩෙ හැන්කොකා උඹෙන් පොඩ් දෙයක් දැනගන්න ඔනි .
ඔය ඉංජිනියරින් ඇසිස්ටන් කියන්නෙ මොකක්ද බන් ?
වාරිමාර්ගෙ එහෙම මන් ඕක දැකල තියෙනවා .එකෙන් වෙන්නෙ මොකක්ද ?
කොලිෆිකේෂන්ස් එහෙම ඔනි මොනවද ?
අපේ එකේ දෙන්නේ Quality Assurance (QA), UI/UX Designer, Devops කියලාමමත් ප්රයිවට් ඩිග්රි කරපු කෙනෙක්. හැබැයි මේ ත්රෙඩ් එකේ ගියපු දේවල් අතරින් ..මොනව වුනත් ලංකාව ඇතුලේ සොෆ්ට්වෙයා කම්පැනි වල දෙන designation එක මිට වඩා කප්පාදු වුනානම් හොදයි. Software testing කරන මිතුරන් තරහ අවසර. මට තාම තේරෙන්නේ නෑ උන්ට Engineer කෑල්ල ගහන්නේ ඇයි කියල. බහුතරය කරන්නේ මැනුවල් ටෙස්ටින්. ගොඩක් කම්පැනි වල ඉන්ට උන්ට common sense/general knowledge එකක්වත් නෑ, ඒත් Engineer ගහගෙන අඩි 10ක් වගේ උඩින් යන්නේ. ගොඩක් රටවල ඔය රස්සාව හදුන්වන්නේ Test Analyst/ Tester වගේ නම් වලින්. අනිත් එක UI/UX කරන උන්. ඔය වගේ දේවලුත් හරියට වෙන්න ඕන. IESL කතාව කෙසේ වෙතත්
Real name eka ain kala.hammata siri man ena tikata namuth dalada.
Oka nawattana ba ban, even IT Diploma ekak tibunath samahara oya wordpress website gahana gewal wala tyna office wala inneth Software Engineers laexactly. software development is quite similar to a building design and construction, involving engineers, technical officers, engineering assistants, supervisors, foremen, storekeepers and masons etc. but when it comes to the software development, everybody including laborers, storekeepers and formen suddenly become "engineers"
i have no problem allowing engineer registration even for uscs people after taking the missing modules compared to an engineering degree either at IESL exam level or cpd course or something. but nobody should take the engineer designation unless they have the IESL associate membership. even for CSE graduates who only remembers it when they need a loan. I blame IESL for their only write the law - no implementation policy. compared to the other professional institutions like SLMC, bar association/ law equivalent


මූට ඕනේ CSE එවුන්ට විතරක් software engineer කියල අනික් එවුන්ට වෙන නම් දාන්න පිස්සෙක් කියල මරන්නද ඉතින්මමත් ප්රයිවට් ඩිග්රි කරපු කෙනෙක්. හැබැයි මේ ත්රෙඩ් එකේ ගියපු දේවල් අතරින් ..මොනව වුනත් ලංකාව ඇතුලේ සොෆ්ට්වෙයා කම්පැනි වල දෙන designation එක මිට වඩා කප්පාදු වුනානම් හොදයි. Software testing කරන මිතුරන් තරහ අවසර. මට තාම තේරෙන්නේ නෑ උන්ට Engineer කෑල්ල ගහන්නේ ඇයි කියල. බහුතරය කරන්නේ මැනුවල් ටෙස්ටින්. ගොඩක් කම්පැනි වල ඉන්ට උන්ට common sense/general knowledge එකක්වත් නෑ, ඒත් Engineer ගහගෙන අඩි 10ක් වගේ උඩින් යන්නේ. ගොඩක් රටවල ඔය රස්සාව හදුන්වන්නේ Test Analyst/ Tester වගේ නම් වලින්. අනිත් එක UI/UX කරන උන්. ඔය වගේ දේවලුත් හරියට වෙන්න ඕන. IESL කතාව කෙසේ වෙතත්

hammata siri man ena tikata namuth dalada.
harineda mage point eka ethakota prove karalama gihinne.
allowing idiots here and there to claim "engineer" title without following or knowing any ethics code for engineers
#softwarearchitect
apo na echchara manasikathwayak na
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yeah that could be true. but most of the distant district fellows with low zscores fall out in to low demanding fields like material and mech. and if they get in to fields like electronic or cse, you have to admit that the student is skilled regardless of the zscore. if there are worthy graduates from degrees other than engineering, best thing is to standardize the degree more up to an engineering degree with introducing more math modules or just to conduct exams from IESL for the missing math and other modules then award the membership. but claiming titles without the membership cannot be accepted. it's not just an id card and a membership letter. there's a legal bond for the engineer with the ethics code to the society, which is not known or followed by wanna be engineers, which was proven in the same thread by some wannabe engineers and even some "software architects"
from what i gather, software development is quite similar to a building design and construction, involving engineers, technical officers, engineering assistants, supervisors, foremen, storekeepers and masons etc. but when it comes to the software development, everybody including laborers, storekeepers and formen suddenly become engineers
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ඔව් ඔව් උගේ වෙනම තියරියක් බං යන්නේමූට ඕනේ CSE එවුන්ට විතරක් software engineer කියල අනික් එවුන්ට වෙන නම් දාන්න පිස්සෙක් කියල මරන්නද ඉතින්
කිරියේ අමු කුණුහරපෙන් බැන ගත්ත එකෙක් උගේ නම දාල delete කරපු එවුන්ට code of ethics උගන්නන්න එනවා![]()



behavior as a professional vs behavior outside professional mattersමූට ඕනේ CSE එවුන්ට විතරක් software engineer කියල අනික් එවුන්ට වෙන නම් දාන්න පිස්සෙක් කියල මරන්නද ඉතින්
කිරියේ අමු කුණුහරපෙන් බැන ගත්ත එකෙක් උගේ නම දාල delete කරපු එවුන්ට code of ethics උගන්නන්න එනවා![]()



apenam ithin baas mokaada engineer mokaada kiyala dakka gaman hoyaganna puluwanne. ubalage baas la tikai engineers la tikai computer eka issaraha monitor 2k daagana idagatta gaman wenasa hoyanna ba dennama engineer. ethics mokatada. e madiwata company walin designation ekath denawa engineer kiyala. dan eekath ara sales "executive" gaanata watila.Real name eka ain kala.
Oka nawattana ba ban, even IT Diploma ekak tibunath samahara oya wordpress website gahana gewal wala tyna office wala inneth Software Engineers la
Construction wage tama. Small palpath houses to LRT size wenakal projects tynawane![]()
ඔව් ඔව් උගේ වෙනම තියරියක් බං යන්නේ![]()

ඉතින් අයිසේ කිරියේ ඇවිත් post දාන්නේ as professional ද?behavior as a professional vs behavior outside professional matters
code of ethics ugannanne mokatada ban engineering degree ekak nathi unta.
ape mason baas, helpers lath sawala nathuwa online wage wada kalanam kelinma engineer kiyala dagani
software highlevel eken design karana ekaath engineer code karana ekath engineer ewa test karana anathayoth engineer e madiwata network gagaha yana apathayoth engineer![]()

දන්නේ නැති field ගැන කතා නොකර හිටපන් කොකෝ, උඹට කොච්චර රිදුනත් කරන්න පුළුවන් දෙයක් නැනේ 
උඹ අයි ටී ෆීල්ඩ් එක ගැනනෙ කිවන්නෙ .behavior as a professional vs behavior outside professional matters
code of ethics ugannanne mokatada ban engineering degree ekak nathi unta.
ape mason baas, helpers lath sawala nathuwa online wage wada kalanam kelinma engineer kiyala dagani
software highlevel eken design karana ekaath engineer code karana ekath engineer ewa test karana anathayoth engineer e madiwata network gagaha yana apathayoth engineer
apenam ithin baas mokaada engineer mokaada kiyala dakka gaman hoyaganna puluwanne. ubalage baas la tikai engineers la tikai computer eka issaraha monitor 2k daagana idagatta gaman wenasa hoyanna ba dennama engineer. ethics mokatada. e madiwata company walin designation ekath denawa engineer kiyala. dan eekath ara sales "executive" gaanata watila.
mageth thopi godak unge folder tika 2008 idan ekathu karala drive eke daan inne waru ganan hoyala pawle unge photo ekkama, danawanam ridila policy yannama danna puluwan. habai ithin dan ona pakak karapuwawe kiyala nikan innawa issara wage elawa elawa yanne na. nattan mamath ube level ekata watunama ubei magei wenasakuth na uba wage unta engineer nodi inna hethuwakuth nane math uba wage low level widihata hasirunama
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ucsc anathayoi rata wate private ewain ena engineers la tikai adala aran 3rd class gathiya ismathu karala athal ekak ganna awe. nathuwa man mona karannada konda pana nathi IESL ekata bana bana innawa misak. software baas lai testers lai garment kaali tikai ara ncpasan wage network anathayoi serama engineer kikiya yanawa bala bala hiti gaman adala aran athal ekak aran innawa.jobless වේදනාව
ඉතින් අයිසේ කිරියේ ඇවිත් post දාන්නේ as professional ද?
"software high level design කරන එකා"දන්නේ නැති field ගැන කතා නොකර හිටපන් කොකෝ, උඹට කොච්චර රිදුනත් කරන්න පුළුවන් දෙයක් නැනේ
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#ECUK IESL puke 
ඔව් නේද ජොබ් එකකුත් නැති එකේ වෙන මොනවා කරන්නද?ucsc anathayoi rata wate private ewain ena engineers la tikai adala aran 3rd class gathiya ismathu karala athal ekak ganna awe. nathuwa man mona karannada konda pana nathi IESL ekata bana bana innawa misak. software baas lai testers lai garment kaali tikai ara ncpasan wage network anathayoi serama engineer kikiya yanawa bala bala hiti gaman adala aran athal ekak aran innawa.#ECUK IESL puke
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man thaman wihin daganna ekata baninna nemei awe company walin dena ekata baninna. ara wage unta ape company walin engineer kiyala designation denne na, nathuwa ehema daganna unta bannai kiyala therumak na unuth balanne mona loophole eken hari ringala wadi status ekak aaruuda karagananne. code karana untai podi podi testing wada karana untai network karana untai kollatai ballatai hamotama sathutu karanna engineer kiyala company ekenma designation eka dunnama eeka namata daagatta kiyala job eka karana ekaata banala wadak naane company walatai ewa regulate nokarana IESL ekatai misak. SLMC ekath hora dostharala ekek maattu unath arrest karala deraneth dana nisa unge ochchara case ekak na. nattan unuth IESL wage konda pana nathuwa hasirunanam me weddi elakiri eken baagayak doctors laඋඹ අයි ටී ෆීල්ඩ් එක ගැනනෙ කිවන්නෙ .
උඹ ඉන්න සිවිල් ෆීල්ඩ් එකෙත් ඉන්නවා නේද ඔය ඉංජිනෙරු වචනෙට නැහෙන්න හදහ ඉංජිනියරින් ඩිග්රි නැති උන් ?
උඹලාගෙ එන් ඩී ටී උන් කියන්නෙත් ඇහැව්වොත් ඉංජිනියර් කියලා.
අර ඕ ලෙවල් එස් 6 කින් කරන්න තියෙන ටෙක් වල සිවිල් කොර්ස් එක කරන එකා හිතන් ඉන්නෙත් ඌත් ඉංජිනියර් කියලා.
අයි සී බී ටී එකෙ සිවිල් ඩිග්රි ( උබට අනුව වොෂින්ටන් ඇක්රෙඩිෂන් එක නැති )
කරපු උනුත් සයිට් ඉංජිනියර් කියලා දාගෙන ඉන්නවා.
හොඳට හොයලා බලපන් කොකො.
අපෙ රටෙ උන් හිතන් ඉන්නෙ ඉංජිනියර් කියන්නෙ සේෆ්ටි හෙල්මට් එක ඔළුවෙ තියෙන එකා විතරයි කියලා .

karana karana job eka facebook ekei linkedin ekei update karanna kiyala ECUK wala law ekak thiyanawanam ara ncpasan kiyana ekaata ooka gihin kiyapan ubata anuwa u art degree karayek wage job ekak karalama na ehenamඔව් නේද ජොබ් එකකුත් නැති එකේ වෙන මොනවා කරන්නද?
ECUK උන් මොනවද engineering ගැන දන්නේ කිරියේ කොකා කියනවා නම් ඉතින් එච්චරයි![]()

1989 Washington accord sign කරපු founding member ECUK චාටර් 2014 ගිහින් එල්ලුන IESL පට්ට standardkarana karana job eka facebook ekei linkedin ekei update karanna kiyala ECUK wala law ekak thiyanawanam ara ncpasan kiyana ekaata ooka gihin kiyapan ubata anuwa u art degree karayek wage job ekak karalama na ehenam
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ECUK උන් මොනවද engineering ගැන දන්නේ කිරියේ කොකා කියනවා නම් ඉතින් එච්චරයි![]()
