Mona aagame ayada hondatama Thaman adahana Dahama pilipadinne?

[x-pert]

Vipassana, which means to see things as they really are, is one of India's most ancient techniques of meditation.
It was discovered by Gotama Buddha more than 2500 years ago and was taught by him as a universal remedy for universal ills,
​

See how this shameless person try to Market Indian teachings in the name of Buddha...

If you go to that website link it says:

Vipassana, which means to see things as they really are, is one of India's most ancient techniques of meditation. It was rediscovered by Gotama Buddha more than 2500 years ago and was taught by him as a universal remedy for universal ills

(http://www.dhamma.org/en/vipassana.shtml)

There is a huge difference between discovering and rediscovering.

And this shameless Atula has even editted the wording of the website to suit his argument....

That Vipassana website simply is an Indian Marketing website developed in order to gain physical benefits and Marketing representatives of it like Atula tries to discredit the most noble Buddha and give the credit of discovering Vipassana to ancient indians.

And he does that in the name of Buddhism...

Shame on you Mr. Atula...

Try to follow the real dhamma if you're a buddhist, without trying to sell Lord Buddha.




And anith prashne, meh wage boruwak karala pan sil walin ekak kadanna tharam pahath level ekata watunu Atulage vipassana walin labagaththu aathma sanyamaya ganath prashnayak mathu wenawa.

e wagema thamunge adahasa hari kiyanna boruwak kiyapu kenage Baudhakama ganath pahadili prashnayak mathu wenawa.

Atham aagam wala minissu Budu dahama nathi karala, eeka wikurthi karanna uthsaaha karanawa kiyalath Lankawe minissu dannawa.

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

ඔව් ඒක තමා මත් ශුවර් කරල කිව්වෙ නැත්තෙ. සමහරවිට විපස්සනාවනම් බුදුහාමුදුරුවො විසින්ම හඳුන්වල දුන්න දෙයක් වෙන්න පුළුවන්
එහෙනම් අර සයිට් එකේ තියෙන දේ වැරදියි

එයා සයිට් එක ඇතුලටවත් ගිහින් නැහැ.
මුල පිටුව විතරක් බලල ප්‍රකාශ ඉදිරිපත් කරනවා.
http://www.dhamma.org/en/vipassana.shtml
​

ඔව් අනික අනික් හැම ආගමේම තියෙන්නෙ මිනිස්සු නරකින් මුදවල හොඳට යොදවන එක විතරයි
නමුත් බුදු දහමෙ ඊට වඩා ගැඹුරට එහාට යනව(මොකද සසරදුක නැති කරන්න එහම යන්න ඕන නිසා )

ඇත්ත.
ඒත් සසරදුක නැති කිරීම අවසාන ප්‍රතිඵලය වුනාට
විපස්සනා පටන් ගන්න කොටම
දුක නැතිවෙන එකත් සමානුපතිකව සිදුවෙනවා.
​

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

See how this shameless person try to Market Indian teachings in the name of Buddha...

If you go to that website link it says:

Vipassana, which means to see things as they really are, is one of India's most ancient techniques of meditation. It was rediscovered by Gotama Buddha more than 2500 years ago and was taught by him as a universal remedy for universal ills

(http://www.dhamma.org/en/vipassana.shtml)

There is a huge difference between discovering and rediscovering.

Yes
I edited it,
Can you tell what is the huge difference?
Why it said REdiscovered?
Who discovered it before Buddha.

​

 

[x-pert]

Yes
I edited it,
Can you tell what is the huge difference?
Why it said REdiscovered?
Who discovered it before Buddha.

​

That's not the point here Atula.

You're asking 'who follows their religion well' in this thread.
You while claiming as a buddhist who follows vipassana, breaks a sil in pan sil by providing false (doctored) facts in order to prove your argument of giving the full credit to Lord Buddha for inventing the vipassana method.

Yes, if you see clearly, while meditation was invented by anciant Indians, "vipassana" technique was developed by Buddha. But that website clearly says that its an invention of ancient indians - which is wrong from what I see.

But nowadays it has become a commercial fashion as I can see.
And you're trying to do the same thing here by marketing a false information providing website.

I think it's better to 'lead by example'. I know you want people to follow Vipassana. No harm. But if this is what we see from a person who has done a so called course, then what's the point of doing it?

 

[Sunanda820]

ඔයා කතා කරන්නෙ
හින්දු ආගමවත්, බුදු දහමවත් දැනගෙන නෙමෙයිනෙ.
ඒක පැහැදිලියි.

apitath pahadiliy mr. Athula katha karanneth budu dahama gana danagena nemei kiyala.
Methuma buddhist kiyala mulin kiwwa.
But methuma kiyanawa aanapanasathiyata wadanda puurwa suudanamak one nathi bawak. & èka harima lèsilu.
Methuma hithanne bus ekak enakan holt ekata wela anapanasathiya wadanda puluwan kiyala.
Methuma hithanne aanapanasathiya waduwama 'athurudahan' weeme hakiyawak labenawa kiyala.
Pragnawata wena therum denda try kala.
È madiwata indian hindu site ekaka link ekak dunna buddhist site ekak kiyala.
so hodatama pahadiliy mr. Athula buddhistda or wena agamikayekda yana bawa.

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

That Vipassana website simply is an Indian Marketing website developed in order to gain physical benefits and Marketing representatives of it like Atula tries to discredit the most noble Buddha and give the credit of discovering Vipassana to ancient indians.

Can you prove this?
Take anything from the site
http://www.dhamma.org/
and prove it.

​

 

[redbone]

hama agmema innava hari vidiyata pilipadina aya. as 4 me it cannot put in order.

 

[senira]

yako mee athualaya thavamath innawa da??????????

 

[Sunanda820]

එයා සයිට් එක ඇතුලටවත් ගිහින් නැහැ.
මුල පිටුව විතරක් බලල ප්‍රකාශ ඉදිරිපත් කරනවා.

site eka athulata yanda uwamanawak na. Mul page ekema boru begal thiyeddi, athule thiyena èwa aththada boruda kiyala hithaganda puluwan.
Mama hithanne mr. Athulata pahadili karala denda uwamanawak na web sites wala basic structure gana. Site eke tiyena ewa gana summery ekak thamai oya mul page eke tiyenne. Mèkath hariyata catholic & islam agam wagema thamai. Patan gannema boruwakin.

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

apitath pahadiliy mr. Athula katha karanneth budu dahama gana danagena nemei kiyala.
Methuma buddhist kiyala mulin kiwwa.
But methuma kiyanawa aanapanasathiyata wadanda puurwa suudanamak one nathi bawak. & èka harima lèsilu.
Methuma hithanne bus ekak enakan holt ekata wela anapanasathiya wadanda puluwan kiyala.

This is from Satipatthana sutta
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/tipitaka/dn/dn.22.0.than.html

Anapana sati.
Breathing in long,
he discerns that he is breathing in long;
or breathing out long,
he discerns that he is breathing out long.
Or breathing in short,
he discerns that he is breathing in short;
or breathing out short,
he discerns that he is breathing out short.
He trains himself to breathe in sensitive to the entire body
and to breathe out sensitive to the entire body.

Me kramaye mokakda amaru kiyanna balanna.
​

Methuma hithanne aanapanasathiya waduwama 'athurudahan' weeme hakiyawak labenawa kiyala.

Pragnawata wena therum denda try kala.
È madiwata indian hindu site ekaka link ekak dunna buddhist site ekak kiyala.

http://www.dhamma.org/
Hindu site ekak kiyala oppu karanna.
​

[/quote] so hodatama pahadiliy mr. Athula buddhistda or wena agamikayekda yana bawa.[/quote]

That is not important,
because I have been a names sake buddhist
for more than half of my life
but I have experienced Buddha's teaching
after
Vipassana.
​

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

site eka athulata yanda uwamanawak na. Mul page ekema boru begal thiyeddi, athule thiyena èwa aththada boruda kiyala hithaganda puluwan.
Mama hithanne mr. Athulata pahadili karala denda uwamanawak na web sites wala basic structure gana. Site eke tiyena ewa gana summery ekak thamai oya mul page eke tiyenne. Mèkath hariyata catholic & islam agam wagema thamai. Patan gannema boruwakin.

Oya boruyi kiyanne me line eka.

Vipassana, which means to see things as they really are,
is one of India's most ancient techniques of meditation.
It was taught in India more than 2500 years ago
as a universal remedy for universal ills


Meke thiyana boruwa mokakda?
​

 

[kasuncj]

dennan ekak wath hariyata adahanne na

 

[x-pert]

Can you prove this?
Take anything from the site
http://www.dhamma.org/
and prove it.

​

I cannot prove it by taking anything from the website - sorry

But I know how they operate here in South Australia. How much donations they get for the Mile End facility and how much rent they have to pay to have the Gouger St office etc.

They are making a profit by it.

And importantly, it is not my business or the best interest for my time to search for it.

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

That's not the point here Atula.

You're asking 'who follows their religion well' in this thread.
You while claiming as a buddhist who follows vipassana, breaks a sil in pan sil by providing false (doctored) facts in order to prove your argument of giving the full credit to Lord Buddha for inventing the vipassana method.

Yes, if you see clearly, while meditation was invented by anciant Indians, "vipassana" technique was developed by Buddha. But that website clearly says that its an invention of ancient indians - which is wrong from what I see.

But nowadays it has become a commercial fashion as I can see.
And you're trying to do the same thing here by marketing a false information providing website.

I think it's better to 'lead by example'. I know you want people to follow Vipassana. No harm. But if this is what we see from a person who has done a so called course, then what's the point of doing it?

When we follow the course
the meaning of
REdiscovered is explained very well.
Gothama the Buddha is
the 4th Samma Sambuddha
in this Kalpa.
So 3 times Vipassana had been discovered by those Buddhas
and disappeared.
It will happen again
and
next Meththa Buddha
would rediscover it.

I don't want people to follow Vipassana.
I used to have that hope
and it is a burden.
May be Ditthi upaadana.
Now I simply bring up information.
If there is anyone
who realize the need may take the dive
and come out a better and a happier man.
Whether I know it or not
doesn't matter.
Another one has paid tribute
to the Buddha
who postponed his enlightenment for trillions of eons
to help many suffering people.
That is good enough.
​

 

[Sunanda820]

ඔව් අනික අනික් හැම ආගමේම තියෙන්නෙ මිනිස්සු නරකින් මුදවල හොඳට යොදවන එක ගැන විතරයි.


anik agam wala tiyenne deviyekuta baye naraka wada karanda epa kiyala. Karoth deviyo daduwam denawalu. Anik agam okkomema tiyenne kaama loke inna hati gana. Islam agama me wage ekak kiyala mama oppu kala. Pahugiya replies balanna.


හ්ම්ම් මං ඒ පොත කිව්වෙ ගොඩාක් කළෙකට කලින් අපේ නැන්ද ගාව තිබිල
දැන්නම් ඒක හොයන්න අමරුයි මොකද මන් ඒ පොත් කියවන එක අතෑරල ගොඩක් කල් නිසා.

obathuma me wage uththarayak dei kiyala mama anumaana kala.

මොනා උනත් සුනන්ඳ මම කියන්නෙ නැ සයිට් එක 100% හරියි කියලවත්
අතුල 100% හෝ වැරදියි කියලවත්

mr. Athula gana wishwasaya thiyanda ba. Ekko ethuma anyaagamikayek or ara kiyapu vipassana class gihin mole awul karagattu pudgalayek. Oya classes wala kawru monawa ugannanawada kiyala kawruwath danne na. Ugannanda sudusukam monada kiyalath danne na. Sometimes gihiyoth ugannanawa ati. Bhawanawa karanne sithath ekka. Waradi dewal igannuwoth ithin pissu hadila thamai nawathinne.

 

[AtulaSiriwardane]

I cannot prove it by taking anything from the website - sorry

But I know how they operate here in South Australia. How much donations they get for the Mile End facility and how much rent they have to pay to have the Gouger St office etc.

They are making a profit by it.

And importantly, it is not my business or the best interest for my time to search for it.

Vipassana courses.

This is how do they make money.
http://www.dhamma.org/en/qanda.shtml

How much does the course cost?

Each student who attends a Vipassana course is given this gift
by a previous student.
There is no charge for either the teaching, or for room and board.
All Vipassana courses worldwide are run on a strictly voluntary donation basis.
At the end of your course, if you have benefited from the experience,
you are welcome to donate for the coming course,
according to your volition and your means.


How much are teachers paid to conduct courses?

Teachers receive no payment, donations or other material benefit.
They are required to have their own private means of support.
This rule means that some of them may have less time for teaching,
but it protects students from exploitation
and it guards against commercialism.
In this tradition, teachers give Vipassana purely as a service to others.
All they get is the satisfaction of seeing people's happiness
at the end of ten days.


Course Finances
According to the tradition of pure Vipassana,
courses are run solely on a donation basis.
Donations are accepted only
from those who have completed at least one ten-day course
with S.N. Goenka
or one of his assisting teachers.
Someone taking the course for the first time may give a donation
on the last day of the course or any time thereafter.
In this way course are supported by those who have realized for themselves the benefits of the practice.
Wishing to share these benefits with others, one gives a donation according to one's means and volition.
Such donations are the only source of funding for course
in this tradition around the world.
There is no wealthy foundation or individual sponsoring them.
Neither the teachers nor the organizers receive any kind of payment for their service.
Thus, the spread of Vipassana is carried out with purity of purpose,
free from any commercialism.
Whether a donation is large or small, it should be given with the wish to help others:
'The course I have taken has been paid for through the generosity of past students;
now let me give something towards the cost of a future course,
so that others may also benefit by this technique.'

______________________________________________________


I have been following this technique
for 18 years.
So I know how it works.

Hope one day you visit a center on a tenth day of a course
and talk to the meditators to get a real picture
to replace the imaginations you have now.

True they receive money for what ever
they plan to do.
But only from Vipassana meditators.
Check this link.
http://www.globalpagoda.org/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_Pagoda

Meditators seated inside the Global Pagoda dome.

The massive inner dome seats over 8000 people enabling them
to practice the non-sectarian Vipassana meditation

The Global Pagoda

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[AtulaSiriwardane]

mr. Athula gana wishwasaya thiyanda ba. Ekko ethuma anyaagamikayek or ara kiyapu vipassana class gihin mole awul karagattu pudgalayek. Oya classes wala kawru monawa ugannanawada kiyala kawruwath danne na. Ugannanda sudusukam monada kiyalath danne na. Sometimes gihiyoth ugannanawa ati. Bhawanawa karanne sithath ekka. Waradi dewal igannuwoth ithin pissu hadila thamai nawathinne.

Mr. S.N. Goenka

Background

Mr. Goenka is a householder teacher of Vipassana meditation in the tradition of the late Sayagyi U Ba Khin of Burma (Myanmar).
Although Indian by descent, Mr. Goenka was born and raised in Burma. While living in Burma he had the good fortune to come into contact with U Ba Khin, and to learn the technique of Vipassana from him. After receiving training from his teacher for fourteen years, Mr. Goenka settled in India and began teaching Vipassana in 1969. In a country still sharply divided by differences of caste and religion, the courses offered by Mr. Goenka have attracted thousands of people from every part of society. In addition, many people from countries around the world have come to join courses in Vipassana meditation.
Mr. Goenka has taught tens of thousands of people in more than 300 courses in India and in other countries, East and West. In 1982 he began to appoint assistant teachers to help him to meet the growing demand for courses. Meditation centres have been established under his guidance in India, Canada, the United States, Australia, New Zealand, France, the United Kingdom, Japan, Sri Lanka, Thailand, Burma, Nepal and other countries.
The technique which S.N.Goenka teaches represents a tradition that is traced back to the Buddha. The Buddha never taught a sectarian religion; he taught Dhamma - the way to liberation - which is universal. In the same tradition, Mr. Goenka's approach is totally non-sectarian. For this reason, his teaching has a profound appeal to people of all backgrounds, of every religion and no religion, and from every part of the world.
____________________________________
http://www.dhamma.org/en/goenka.shtml

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[AtulaSiriwardane]

mr. Athula gana wishwasaya thiyanda ba. Ekko ethuma anyaagamikayek or ara kiyapu vipassana class gihin mole awul karagattu pudgalayek. Oya classes wala kawru monawa ugannanawada kiyala kawruwath danne na. Ugannanda sudusukam monada kiyalath danne na. Sometimes gihiyoth ugannanawa ati. Bhawanawa karanne sithath ekka. Waradi dewal igannuwoth ithin pissu hadila thamai nawathinne.

Can Vipassana make people mentally unbalanced?

No.

Vipassana teaches you to be aware and equanimous,
that is, balanced, despite all the ups and downs of life.
But if someone comes to a course concealing serious emotional problems,
that person may be unable to understand the technique
or to apply it properly to achieve the desired results.
This is why it is important to let us know your past history
so that we can judge whether you will benefit from a course.
____________________________________
http://www.dhamma.org/en/qanda.shtml
​

 

[Sunanda820]

When we follow the course
the meaning of
REdiscovered is explained very well.
Gothama the Buddha is
the 4th Samma Sambuddha
in this Kalpa.
So 3 times Vipassana had been discovered by those Buddhas
and disappeared.
It will happen again
and
next Meththa Buddha
would rediscover it.
​

mulinma kiyanda one maitri budurajanan wahansege kalpaya enne me kalpaya iwara unain passe kiyala. Me kalpaya iwara wenne kalpa winashayen. Èken bududahama gana danna kisima kenek, or bududahama gana liyawila tiyena kisima deyak ithiri wenne na. Kalpa winasedi me hirugen labena energy eka wage 7x gunayaka energy ekak labila earth eka winaasha wenawa.
(* Note that: suuryaya winasha wenne, dan pitakarana shakthiya wage kihipa gunayaka shakthiyak pitakirimen pasu bawa dan hoyagena tiyenne.)
* so èlaga kalpe patan ganiddi loke kisima kenek danne na niwan dakina maargaya gana. Dannawa nam budu kenekun pahala wenda one nathi nisa.
REDISCOVER kiyana eken adahas wenne me loke thibila nathi unu deyak apahu hoyagannawa kiyana eka.
* but maitri bosathunge kale thiyenne dan thiyena loke nemei. Wenama lokayak. Un wahanse danne na meta kalin wimukthiya hoyagaththu budun wahanse namak hiti bawawath. Èwa danaganne ethuma budu unain pasu.
Ethuma wimukthiya hoyaganne rediscover karala nemei research karala. ​

 

[Sunanda820]

Can Vipassana make people mentally unbalanced?
no

obathumatath sinhala nothèrena gathiyak thibenawa.
Mama methana kiyala tiyenne obathuma oya yana tution class wala vipassna kiyala ugannana bhawanawa gana. Ok?