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    Man ahala ne mehen giya ekek kelinma architect position ekata gaththa kiyala. Un ape experience echchara value karanne ne.
    mm nm hithanne ehema ekak nemei. demotion karanawa company ekata laba nisa. mokada sea walin awa immigrant kenek desperately job hoyanawa kiyala dannawa. Aus wagenam quota ekak thiyanawa tempary visa walin inna ayawa ganna company walata. gov ekata reason denna one ayi gatte kiyala. padi adu kalama reason ekak thiyanawa. 6 7 year exp thiyana kenek SE post ganna puluwan una eka.

    api mehe weda karanneth USA sweden etc based company wala. mm kalin weda kale USA company ekaka. code review kale Principal SE usa dial ekak. team eke UI kale USA sse kenek. Reprt kala manager USA. USA inna kenagei apei experience wenasak na a nisa.
     

    Mr.Thor

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    E weddi experience years kiyak tibbada?
    9+ wage damuko
    Really doesn't matter what position you had here.
    ow bn
    mm nm hithanne ehema ekak nemei. demotion karanawa company ekata laba nisa. mokada sea walin awa immigrant kenek desperately job hoyanawa kiyala dannawa. Aus wagenam quota ekak thiyanawa tempary visa walin inna ayawa ganna company walata. gov ekata reason denna one ayi gatte kiyala. padi adu kalama reason ekak thiyanawa. 6 7 year exp thiyana kenek SE post ganna puluwan una eka.

    api mehe weda karanneth USA sweden etc based company wala. mm kalin weda kale USA company ekaka. code review kale Principal SE usa dial ekak. team eke UI kale USA sse kenek. Reprt kala manager USA. USA inna kenagei apei experience wenasak na a nisa.
    mona desperate ekakwath na bn, mama GC giye, mehe idanma job eka set karagena.

    positions tibe, SE -> SSE -> DEV Manager -> Director, VP.
     

    RealityOfX

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    ow bn

    mona desperate ekakwath na bn, mama GC giye, mehe idanma job eka set karagena.

    positions tibe, SE -> SSE -> DEV Manager -> Director, VP.
    Suddekwa ගත්තනම් ඔහොම කරයිද. මොනවද Experience එකේ Value එක මනින නිර්නායක. මම නම් හිතන්නෙ එහෙනම් Discrimination
     

    hancok

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    පිළි-ඇඳි-දොළ
    UCSC එකේ BIT එකත් කරල ජපුර සයන්ස් Degree එකත් අරන් දැන් SSE විදියට වැඩ කරන එකෙක් විදියට මට රිදුන. ☹️
    Ridunata karnana deyak na. BSc engineering degree ekakui IESL associate membership ekai nattan lankawe legally engineer kiyala designation daganna baha. Eka enforce nokarana ekai awula IESL goo guhawen. Doctors lagenam oka saratama enforce wela thiyanne. SLMC registration nathi ekek doctor kiyagana hitiyoth allala news walath yanawa
     
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    Ridunata karnana deyak na. BSc engineering degree ekakui IESL associate membership ekai nattan lankawe legally engineer kiyala designation daganna baha. Eka enforce nokarana ekai awula IESL goo guhawen. Doctors lagenam oka saratama enforce wela thiyanne. SLMC registration nathi ekek doctor kiyagana hitiyoth allala news walath yanawa
    අනිත් රටවලත් ඉතින් CS Bachelor of Science අයට Engineer post එක දෙනව. මම උඩ උදාහරණ එක්ක දාල ඇති.
     
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    Ridunata karnana deyak na. BSc engineering degree ekakui IESL associate membership ekai nattan lankawe legally engineer kiyala designation daganna baha. Eka enforce nokarana ekai awula IESL goo guhawen. Doctors lagenam oka saratama enforce wela thiyanne. SLMC registration nathi ekek doctor kiyagana hitiyoth allala news walath yanawa

    Uba kiyana widihata audio engineers la ehema inna ba wena ratawal wala. Lankawe witharai inne :lol:
     

    Draco Malfoy

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    Ridunata karnana deyak na. BSc engineering degree ekakui IESL associate membership ekai nattan lankawe legally engineer kiyala designation daganna baha. Eka enforce nokarana ekai awula IESL goo guhawen. Doctors lagenam oka saratama enforce wela thiyanne. SLMC registration nathi ekek doctor kiyagana hitiyoth allala news walath yanawa
    ethakota bn Computer Science degree ekak thiyena kenekta Software Engineer kenek wenna barida?
     

    hrm

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    ow bn

    mona desperate ekakwath na bn, mama GC giye, mehe idanma job eka set karagena.

    positions tibe, SE -> SSE -> DEV Manager -> Director, VP.

    Tika kalayak ohe work kalama set wei. Kohomath 3rd world countries walin ena ayata apu gaman managerial post denne ne okun. Kalayak thibba Australian Computer Society eka mehe 4 years bsc eng degree eka higher diploma ekak kiyala validate karapu. Wena ahannawath deyak na ne.
     

    BC_Dilum

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    I think the reason for this is project vs product companies

    Countries like Sri Lanka, India, Vietnam has more project based companies than product compaines
    But USA, UK etc has more product companies than project based (because it is not feasible to success with project based with because of cost of living & high salaries)

    So 1 Sri Lankan project company with 40 employees has many projects running, let's say 10 outsourced projects handling
    Comparing to the same size of employees product company in USA or UK, they have maximum 2 to 3 internal projects related to the products they have

    Sri Lankan company has 10 projects means there is a requirement of 10 tech leads to lead those projects & they need more SSE to support tech lead. One more thing, most of the time when these kind of companies bill the client, rates change depend of employee title. 1 project has more SSE means they can bill more to the client saying we have included 3 SSE to your project.

    On the other hand USA, UK company with 3 internal project only need 3 tech leads to lead the projects & according to the same ration number of SSE required are low too. They don't want to have more SSE title for project success

    Sri Lankan IT culture got used to promote SE -> SSE -> Tech Lead with few years experience apart because of majority project companies. Companies like WSO2 which is a product company also has no choice but to follow the same promotion cycle, otherwise they won't be able to hire new people from Sri Lankan IT community

    USA, UK don't have to adopt to this promotion cycle & they continue having requirement of 5 to 10 years experience to be SSE and so on.

    So conclusion, IT field title is relative to the country you are working
     

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    ethakota bn Computer Science degree ekak thiyena kenekta Software Engineer kenek wenna barida?
    computer science in Engineering thiyanne one engineer wenna. e degree eka IESL ekata aran gihin associate membership ganna one engineer kenek wenna. pahala thiyana memberships walin ekak wath nattan "engineering" keyword ekak thiyana designation ekak daganna eka/ dena eka or engineer kiyala proclaim karana eka illegal. prashne thiyanne ehema karana unge nemei eeka enforce karanna ona IESL eke ponnakama. unge bylaws wala thiyana ekama wade eeka. un eeka karanne na habai rata wate thiyana project criticize karanna committe hitan daanawa

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    Uba kiyana widihata audio engineers la ehema inna ba wena ratawal wala. Lankawe witharai inne :lol:
    අනිත් රටවලත් ඉතින් CS Bachelor of Science අයට Engineer post එක දෙනව. මම උඩ උදාහරණ එක්ක දාල ඇති.
    anik ratawal walanam kohomada danne na machan lankawe law eka thama udin damme. audio engineering degree ekak nam, IESL recognition thiyanawana, associate membership ganna puluwannam kisi prashnayak na.
    ------ Post added on Mar 25, 2021 at 10:36 AM
     
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    computer science in Engineering thiyanne one engineer wenna. e degree eka IESL ekata aran gihin associate membership ganna one engineer kenek wenna. pahala thiyana memberships walin ekak wath nattan "engineering" keyword ekak thiyana designation ekak daganna eka/ dena eka or engineer kiyala proclaim karana eka illegal. prashne thiyanne ehema karana unge nemei eeka enforce karanna ona IESL eke ponnakama. unge bylaws wala thiyana ekama wade eeka. un eeka karanne na habai rata wate thiyana project criticize karanna committe hitan daanawa

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    anik ratawal walanam kohomada danne na machan lankawe law eka thama udin damme. audio engineering degree ekak nam, IESL recognition thiyanawana, associate membership ganna puluwannam kisi prashnayak na.
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    Ow eka ehema wenna puluwan. Lankawe IT companies lankawe register wela thibbata godak ewa wena ratawala companies wala development branches. A nisa a ratawala culture ekamai ran wenne. Promotion cycle designation unath ehemai. Dev branch lankawe danne low cost nisa. Lankawe government ewage Software Engineer ta wada mm dekala thiyenne Programmer, Developer. Kohomath oka designation ekak witharai. Bank ekaka loan ekak ganna giyath Engineer kenek thiya professional scheme ekata wetenneth na godak welawata.
     

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    Ow eka ehema wenna puluwan. Lankawe IT companies lankawe register wela thibbata godak ewa wena ratawala companies wala development branches. A nisa a ratawala culture ekamai ran wenne. Promotion cycle designation unath ehemai. Dev branch lankawe danne low cost nisa. Lankawe government ewage Software Engineer ta wada mm dekala thiyenne Programmer, Developer. Kohomath oka designation ekak witharai. Bank ekaka loan ekak ganna giyath Engineer kenek thiya professional scheme ekata wetenneth na godak welawata.
    loan ganna IESL membership pennanna one. mehe thiyanne wena ratawal wala branches unata register karala thiyanne mehe private limited widihata, epf etf gewanne mehe. ehemai kiyala wena ratawala designation denna ba mehe law eka neglect karala. mewa crackdown karana eka thama IESL ekata adala ekama wade. e ponsiyo eeka nokara adala nowana hama reddama karanawa
     
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    loan ganna IESL membership pennanna one. mehe thiyanne wena ratawal wala branches unata register karala thiyanne mehe private limited widihata, epf etf gewanne mehe. ehemai kiyala wena ratawala designation denna ba mehe law eka neglect karala. mewa crackdown karana eka thama IESL ekata adala ekama wade. e ponsiyo eeka nokara adala nowana hama reddama karanawa
    Neththam Computer Science Degree eka wena ratawala wage Engineering ekka ekata danna one. Eth degree wala validity ekath balala. Prashne iwarai. Hemotama loan gana puluwan adu rate walata.
     

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    Mama lankawe hitiye Software Architect , USA awama hambaune SSE :(
    WSO2 එකෙත් ඔය වගේ දෙන්නෙක්ව දැක්කා ළගදි.
    US නෙමෙයි හැබැයි Canada ගියපු
    I think the reason for this is project vs product companies

    Countries like Sri Lanka, India, Vietnam has more project based companies than product compaines
    But USA, UK etc has more product companies than project based (because it is not feasible to success with project based with because of cost of living & high salaries)

    So 1 Sri Lankan project company with 40 employees has many projects running, let's say 10 outsourced projects handling
    Comparing to the same size of employees product company in USA or UK, they have maximum 2 to 3 internal projects related to the products they have

    Sri Lankan company has 10 projects means there is a requirement of 10 tech leads to lead those projects & they need more SSE to support tech lead. One more thing, most of the time when these kind of companies bill the client, rates change depend of employee title. 1 project has more SSE means they can bill more to the client saying we have included 3 SSE to your project.

    On the other hand USA, UK company with 3 internal project only need 3 tech leads to lead the projects & according to the same ration number of SSE required are low too. They don't want to have more SSE title for project success

    Sri Lankan IT culture got used to promote SE -> SSE -> Tech Lead with few years experience apart because of majority project companies. Companies like WSO2 which is a product company also has no choice but to follow the same promotion cycle, otherwise they won't be able to hire new people from Sri Lankan IT community

    USA, UK don't have to adopt to this promotion cycle & they continue having requirement of 5 to 10 years experience to be SSE and so on.

    So conclusion, IT field title is relative to the country you are working
    Thanks for the explanation aiye.
    From what I've heard, product companies like IFS do not adopt this typical SL promotion cycle.
    According to the people in SL industry, their promotions seems really slow (takes around at least 3 to 4 years to bump to the next position in the career ladder).
    But the slowness kind of makes sense when we compare with USA, UK as you have mentioned above.