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[KasunKDP]

I bought the atom theory for your ease.Its a infinite field.In that infinte field you have a limited amount of it.So that limited amount has made a boundry on itself. so the ego born.That boundry is the birth of me.It sees it as a separate entity.How much boundry you grabbed from the infinte field changes the degree of consiousness.You can go on expanding but can never become infinite.The only way to become infine is to drop the idea of boundry.

thats some psudo sicene and some mysticism and some buddism ...
its amazing how u can belive such vague theory to be the truth...

it sounds interesting,,, but... there is no way to verify such theory...

 

[G.D.1.nirmal]

You need to spend some time on youtube

Ohh yeah there are plenty of stuff like this in there too. But Im into very simple stuff these days such as which parliament members smoke cocaine and stuff......

 

[dayt0na]

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[Emios]

thats some psudo sicene and some mystism and some buddism ...
its amazing how u can belive such vague theory to be the truth...

it sounds interesting,,, but... there is no way to verify such theory...

It will not be verifiable because we are inside it.The closest we can get is to see vibration gives forms.We have clarrified that everything is frequency.Sound can produce a form.That is proven.Beyond that you cannot verify it because it goes beyond physical nature.Science can only get to explain the outer layer of it.

 

[Pessimist]

සිරාවට ඇයි බං මොන රෙද්දකටද consciousness එකක් ඇතිවුනේ. නිකං random cell configuration එකක් කොහොමද එක පාරට conscious වෙන්නෙ ඇයි consciousness එක නැතුව ඔහේ කකා reproduce කරන ජීවියෙක් බිහිවෙන්න බැරි consciousness එක කියන්නෙ එක්කො ඇති එක්කො නැති දෙයක් ද ? නැත්තං ස්පෙක්ට්‍රම් එකක්ද ? සමහරුන්ට අඩුයි සමහරුන්ට වැඩියි එක එක්කෙනාගෙ වෙනස් ප්‍රමාණ වලිං තියෙන්නෙ ?

 

[G.D.1.nirmal]

සිරාවට ඇයි බං මොන රෙද්දකටද consciousness එකක් ඇතිවුනේ. නිකං random cell configuration එකක් කොහොමද එක පාරට conscious වෙන්නෙ ඇයි consciousness එක නැතුව ඔහේ කකා reproduce කරන ජීවියෙක් බිහිවෙන්න බැරි consciousness එක කියන්නෙ එක්කො ඇති එක්කො නැති දෙයක් ද ? නැත්තං ස්පෙක්ට්‍රම් එකක්ද ? සමහරුන්ට අඩුයි සමහරුන්ට වැඩියි එක එක්කෙනාගෙ වෙනස් ප්‍රමාණ වලිං තියෙන්නෙ ?

It might have been developed as a self defense mechanism in beings which over time progressed into an ego.....

 

[Emios]

සිරාවට ඇයි බං මොන රෙද්දකටද consciousness එකක් ඇතිවුනේ. නිකං random cell configuration එකක් කොහොමද එක පාරට conscious වෙන්නෙ ඇයි consciousness එක නැතුව ඔහේ කකා reproduce කරන ජීවියෙක් බිහිවෙන්න බැරි consciousness එක කියන්නෙ එක්කො ඇති එක්කො නැති දෙයක් ද ? නැත්තං ස්පෙක්ට්‍රම් එකක්ද ? සමහරුන්ට අඩුයි සමහරුන්ට වැඩියි එක එක්කෙනාගෙ වෙනස් ප්‍රමාණ වලිං තියෙන්නෙ ?

Because a limited enitity always want to grow.That is nature of it.It want to expand.You can call it evolution.You cannot expect to live like a earthworm for ever.everything continues eveyy limited enitity want to expand to infinite.That is the nature where it came from.Because it came from infinite it want to go back to infinite.

 

[Pessimist]

It might have been developed as a self defense mechanism in beings which over time progressed into an ego.....

it surely works very well as a defense mechanism. but why was it even necessary in the first place ? i mean wouldn't it have been more simple to have a being with defense mechanisms encoded into it in genes ? why consciousness ? besides most, if not all, conscious beings require sleep which is a huge evolutionary disadvantage. nature robbed us of our tails because they weren't useful for us to walk on land. but sleep ? it still exists. every being still needs to sleep at least a few hours and they extremely vulnerable in that time period. is this a fair price to pay ? i don't think so why develop something that is immensely complicated and puts the possessor at risk for few hours everyday to protect it from something like a little flame ?

 

[Pessimist]

Because a limited enitity always want to grow.That is nature of it.It want to expand.You can call it evolution.You cannot expect to live like a earthworm for ever.everything continues eveyy limited enitity want to expand to infinite.That is the nature where it came from.Because it came from infinite it want to go back to infinite.

this doesn't even make sense what does it mean by wanting to grow towards infinity ? what is infinity ? do you mean the growing in size ?

 

[Emios]

this doesn't even make sense what does it mean by wanting to grow towards infinity ? what is infinity ? do you mean the growing in size ?

Pls refer to the begining of the thread answers

 

[KasunKDP]

It will not be verifiable because we are inside it.The closest we can get is to see vibration gives forms.We have clarrified that everything is frequency.Sound can produce a form.That is proven.Beyond that you cannot verify it because it goes beyond physical nature.Science can only get to explain the outer layer of it.

nice theory, just like what science itself suggest, neither can be verified.

 

[Pessimist]

Few set of atoms in the field of infinite atoms.Which doesnt have a separate existence in its own.But the set of atoms think it is seperate from the rest.That is me.

Pls refer to the begining of the thread answers

you mean this ? well it's another way to see life though extremely reductionist. but it's just an explanation of an already given quality, consciousness. it doesn't explain how or why consciousness came to be.

 

[KasunKDP]

සිරාවට ඇයි බං මොන රෙද්දකටද consciousness එකක් ඇතිවුනේ. නිකං random cell configuration එකක් කොහොමද එක පාරට conscious වෙන්නෙ ඇයි consciousness එක නැතුව ඔහේ කකා reproduce කරන ජීවියෙක් බිහිවෙන්න බැරි consciousness එක කියන්නෙ එක්කො ඇති එක්කො නැති දෙයක් ද ? නැත්තං ස්පෙක්ට්‍රම් එකක්ද ? සමහරුන්ට අඩුයි සමහරුන්ට වැඩියි එක එක්කෙනාගෙ වෙනස් ප්‍රමාණ වලිං තියෙන්නෙ ?

මම හිතන්නේ spectrum එකක් කියල...
උපරිම ලෙවල් එකේ ඉන්නේ මිනිස්සු කියල හිතෙනවා (apparently)

 

[Pessimist]

මම හිතන්නේ spectrum එකක් කියල...
උපරිම ලෙවල් එකේ ඉන්නේ මිනිස්සු කියල හිතෙනවා (apparently)

එතකොට හිතපං conscious අපි ඔක්කොම එකතු වෙලා නිර්මාණය කරන සමාජය entity එකක් විදිහට අපිට නොදැනෙන වෙනම විදිහකට conscious නං ? සමාජය හැසිරෙන ප්‍රතික්‍රියා දක්වන විදිහ ගොඩක් වෙලාවට conscious ජීවියෙක් වගේ

 

[G.D.1.nirmal]

it surely works very well as a defense mechanism. but why was it even necessary in the first place ? i mean wouldn't it have been more simple to have a being with defense mechanisms encoded into it in genes ? why consciousness ? besides most, if not all, conscious beings require sleep which is a huge evolutionary disadvantage. nature robbed us of our tails because they weren't useful for us to walk on land. but sleep ? it still exists. every being still needs to sleep at least a few hours and they extremely vulnerable in that time period. is this a fair price to pay ? i don't think so why develop something that is immensely complicated and puts the possessor at risk for few hours everyday to protect it from something like a little flame ?

Sleep may very well be needed to keep the consciousness from being exhausted with unnecessary thoughts and stuff and also for the body to cool down for a bit and relax. I think its a necessary component despite of the danger. Well if there was no consciousness we would be like robots which is not likely to be a product of nature and evolution. It was something that came with the package.....

 

[Emios]

nice theory, just like what science itself suggest, neither can be verified.

But there are beings who verified it by allowing their own limited consiousness to become the infinte.jesus,buddha etc.So its up to you to deicide to agree with it or agree with any conclusions science will give in the future.

 

[Pessimist]

Sleep may very well be needed to keep the consciousness from being exhausted with unnecessary thoughts and stuff and also for the body to cool down for a bit and relax. I think its a necessary component despite of the danger. Well if there was no consciousness we would be like robots which is not likely to be a product of nature and evolution. It was something that came with the package.....

if we were robots we would have been more successful in evolutionary terms. just look at all the drama involved in a simple relationship. consciousness is killing reproduction. i still don't think it was impossible for creatures without consciousness to have successfully reproduced and evolved.

 

[KasunKDP]

But there are beings who verified it by allowing their own limited consiousness to become the infinte.jesus,buddha etc.So its up to you to deicide to agree with it or agree with any conclusions science will give in the future.

well, maybe they hallucinated or they really gained that knowledge...
probelm is that its impossible to test a consciousness, unlike testing something physical.
Dont know whether science will be able to demystify this,, if it manage to do so it will be the ultimate invention of humanity, answer to the ultimate question.. there will be mass suicides , hedonism , nihilism depending on the outcome.

 

[Emios]

you mean this ? well it's another way to see life though extremely reductionist. but it's just an explanation of an already given quality, consciousness. it doesn't explain how or why consciousness came to be.

If you want to create a reason to be then you are creating a limited enitity.If consiousness had a reason to came to be then the consiousness is limited.Then it should have a goal too.If it had a goal you are limiting and restricitng the possibilities of life.You cannot find the reason why consiousness came to be,because if you do find then it is not consiousness.

 

[G.D.1.nirmal]

But there are beings who verified it by allowing their own limited consiousness to become the infinte.jesus,buddha etc.So its up to you to deicide to agree with it or agree with any conclusions science will give in the future.

Hey bro let me ask you a question outside of the subject matter. Do you think the average Aussie citizen is intelligent or are there also big idiots out there like in SL? Coz its proven that the average US citizen is foolish when compared with the rest of the developed world.....